Genealogy Chat

Thank you Debra That seems to be the family on the 1851. I don't know the name of Mary Ann's first husband. The first Lady on the 1871 seems to be the correct one. Her second husband was George Sherriff or Sheriff. Mary ann was illeiterate as a son's birth cert I have, says 'X the mark of Mary Ann Sheriff, late Elliott, formerly Edgeley. They seem to spell this with or without the middle 'E', Also in the 1991, George (and Mary Ann) had a stepson, John Sheriff, (mistranscribed Shariff). I believe he was John Elliott. Further, in the 1901 my g/f George Sherriff, son of George, stepson of Mary Ann had an adptoed daughter, Ada Elliott. I suspect that Ada was the daughter of John, but I have used up my budget for certs at present and put that in the list for my next order. Kind regards David

please find hugh kielty parents hugh was born 1874? married mary ellen .thanks

Hi Debra, Can you please look up a Benjamin Mellodew (b.1842.Rochdale,Lancs),son of John (b.1801). Also John Hollows (b.1828 Rochdale,Lancs) & daughter Esther (b.1856). Much appreciated. regards Dave

DAVO 1851 MAYBE THOMAS WITH SECOND WIFE MARY ANN EDGLEY abt 1838 Greenwich, Kent, England Daughter Greenwich Kent View Record Sarah Edgley abt 1851 Greenwich, Kent, England Daughter Greenwich Kent View Record Thompson Edgley abt 1822 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Wife Greenwich Kent THOMAS EDGLEY abt 1810 Greenwich, Kent, England Head Greenwich Kent SHOEMAKER address 26 ta???gan grove, greenwich, kent MARRIAGE View Record Edgeley, Thomas 1850 December Marriages Greenwich Greater London Kent London Surrey DO YOU KNOW MARY ANNS FIRST HUSBANDS FIRST NAME, AS THERE ARE THESE IN 1871 View Record Mary A Elliot abt 1839 Greenwich, Kent, England Wife Lambeth London View Record Mary A Elliot abt 1836 Grocenetron, Kent, England Wife St Margaret Kent View Record Mary A Ellis abt 1840 Ramsgate, Kent, England Wife Lymm Cheshire PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I WILL LOOK AT THE IMAGES FOR YOU. DEBS

Hi Debra Can you find this family for me, on 1851? 1861, or 1871 the last 2 Mary Ann probably under the name of Elliott. Father John Thomas Edgeley Daughter Mary Ann Edgeley, born 1838 (Christening: 29 AUG 1838 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England according to IGI) Mother died per Free BMDs: Deaths Jun 1845 EDGLEY Harriet Greenwich 5 157 I cannot find Mary Ann's marriage under either spelling. Her first husband was Elliott, later she was narried ti George Sheriff or Sherriff on the 1881, 1891, nd by 1901 she was a widow. (can't find her 2nd marriage either. (These 3 census' she is in Southwark area.) Mary Ann born 1881 Greenwich 1891 Lambeth 1910, Greenwich Confusing isn't it. 1891 and 1901 heve the surname badly transcribed as Shariff and Cheriff Regards David

Debra - Grateful thanks, Regards Rita

RITA 1871 View Record Fredrick King abt 1855 Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk, England Son Rickinghall Superior Suffolk View Record Isabella King abt 1859 Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk, England Daughter Rickinghall Superior Suffolk JAMES KING abt 1811 Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk, England Head Rickinghall Superior Suffolk BUTCHER MASTER View Record Lousia King abt 1847 Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk, England Daughter Rickinghall Superior Suffolk SUSAN KING abt 1815 Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk, England Wife Rickinghall Superior Suffolk NO ADDRESS SORRY THIS IS ALL I CAN FIND AT THE MOMENT REGARDS DEBS

Hi Debra Could you look for the following on the 1871 census please: James King - - b – 1810 – Rickinghall Superior Susan King – b – 1814 – Rickinghall Superior (or Botesdale) David King - b-1850 – Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk George King - b- 1852 – Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk James King - b – 1852 – Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk On the 1881 please James King – b – 1852 – Rickinghall Superior Frederick King – b – 1856 – Rickinghall On the 1891 David King - b - 1850 – Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk George King - b- 1852 – Rickinhall Superior, Suffolk James King – b –1852 – Rickinghall Superior Frederick King – b 1856 – Rickinghall On the 1901 – all of the above for the 1891 Thank you Rita

NICKY EED A BIT MORE INFO PLEASE MAYBE AGES OF SIBLINGS OR PARENTS NAMES CHEERS DEBS

JOHNATAN THESE ARE ALL THE ONES IN WALES AROUND THE YEARS YOUR LOOKING FOR BUT NONE OF THEM ARE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ALCOHOL 1851 View Record John Millward abt 1815 Abram Brow, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Bedwellty Monmouthshire View Record John Millward abt 1813 St Asaph, Flintshire, Wales Head Brynbychan Flintshire View Record John Millward abt 1809 Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales Head Eglwysilan Glamorgan View Record John Millward abt 1810 Laniltern, Glamorgan, Wales Head Peterstone Glamorgan AND THESE ARE IN ENGLAND 1851 View Record John Millward abt 1810 Alton, Staffordshire, England Head Alton Staffordshire View Record John Millward abt 1816 Wootton, Bedfordshire, England Head Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire View Record John Millward abt 1814 Birmingham Head Birmingham Warwickshire View Record John Millward abt 1813 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Head Coventry St Michael Warwickshire View Record John Millward abt 1818 Sedgaley, Staffordshire, England Head Darlaston Staffordshire View Record John Millward abt 1815 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Head Dudley Worcestershire View Record John Millward abt 1817 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Son-in-law Dudley Staffordshire View Record John Millward abt 1818 Plymouth, Devon, England Head East Stonehouse Devon View Record John Millward abt 1819 St. Asaph, Flintshire, Wales Lodger Garston Lancashire View Record John Millward abt 1809 Stafford, Staffordshire, England Head Kidderminster Worcestershire View Record John Millward abt 1819 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Head Kings Norton Worcestershire View Record John Millward abt 1816 Bewdley, Worcestershire, England Head Kingswinford Staffordshire View Record John Millward abt 1818 Cottsal, Staffordshire, England Head Kingswinford Staffordshire View Record John Millward abt 1815 Brassington, Derbyshire, England Son Kniveton Derbyshire View Record John Millward abt 1815 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Head Leeds Yorkshire View Record John Millward abt 1811 Wardick, Worcestershire, England Son Stoke Prior Worcestershire View Record John Millward abt 1816 Tardebigg, Worcestershire, England Head Stoke Prior Worcestershire LET ME KNOW WHICH ONES YOU THINK, AND I WILL LOOK AT THE IMAGE FOR YOU OK REGARDS DEBS

Hi Debra Many thanks for the offer. I'm in Australia and found it had to acces some info here. I'm looking for George Thomas Pugh Born 1865 in Worcester had the following siblings Poppy (probably a nickname) Floss (? Florence) Stanley Jack Bert with George Thomas Pugh being the youngest. Thanks Nicky :)

Hi Debra Slightly elusive one here as I couldn't pin him down in 1861. Maybe 1851 has the answers. I'm after: John Millward born circa 1814 (allow a few years either way) probably in Wales (somewhere). Some confusion over his birthplace 1871 says Denbigh, 1881 says Derby. The latter should probably have been the former. It's possible 1851 has him listed as borm somewhere else entirely. Can you have a look at 1851 Wales first. I know of one in Flintshire whose wife is Jane Millward. This is not him, he's another one. What might identify him is if he comes up with any of the following occupations: Spiirt Merchant Publican Licensed Victualler or something that says he sells alcohol. It is possible he's in England at that time. If it's not too cumbersome please have a quick look. Thanks eversomuch if you can do this - I have no record of him before 1871 and yet he's such a key part of my family history. Best wishes Jonathan

hi deborah im trying too find out any info on a dennis charles born in wolverhampton about 1884-1887 he got married too a catherine webb formerley catherine martin around1912 they had a son named dennis charles....all info appreciated thanx..kev

JUDY 1901 GILBERT AND PARENTS AGNES WALTON abt 1875 Pimlico, London, England Wife Shoreditch London CHARLES H WALTON abt 1868 Leicestershire, England Head Shoreditch London BARBER HAIR Charles W Walton abt 1893 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Son Shoreditch London GILBERT E WALTON abt 1895 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Son Shoreditch London THOMAS A Walton abt 1897 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Daughter Shoreditch London THOMAS IS FLORENCE A DAU ON IMAGE ITS QUITE PLAIN EOUGH, SO BAD MISTRANSCRIBING address bu???mia st, shoreditch MARRIAGE AGNES LOUISA TINDALL1891 December Marriages Portsea Island Hampshire AND CHARLES HENRY WALTON 1891 December Marriages Portsea Island Hampshire REGARDS DEBS

Could you please look up Gilbert Walton born 1894 and his sister Florence born 1896 both in Portsmouth? Father is Charles H Walton and mother Agnes Walton whose maiden name I don't know but she was born in Pimlico 1875, thanks Judy

JOHN THIS IS AS I READ IT OFF THE 1861 CENSUS 1861 JOHN JONES HD 30 DOCK GATE MAN BN PEMBROKE CATHERINE?? LOOKS MORE LIKE MARGARET TO ME 40 WI BN THE SAME PLACE AS JOHN ON IMAGE BUT NOT PEMBROKE JOHN SON 16 BN CARDIFF GLAMORGAN BENJAMIN SON 10 BN CARDIFF MARGARET DAVID DAU 6 BN CARDIFF DAVID DAU 2 BN CARDIFF LIKE YOURSELF CANT MAKE OUT ADDRESS LOOKS LIKE GATE ROAD, CARDIFF REGARDS DEBS

Deb Further to my request re John Jones Census 1861 this is how I read my copy Parish of St Marys Cardiff No 73 .... Road John Jones-head-age 44-(abt 1817)Dock gate man-b. Pembrokeshire Catherine Jones-wife-age 45-(abt 1816)-b. Cardiganshire John Jones-son-age 16-(abt 1845)-sailor-b. Cardiff Benjamin Jones-son-age 10-(abt 1851)-scholar-b. Cardiff ?? Jones age 6-(abt 1855)-scholar-b. Cardiff David Jones-son-age 2-(abt 1859)-b. Cardiff As you can see I can't figure out the street name or the second last child as well as the last one being David b. 1859 when your 1851 census has David b1849 Any bright ideas would be welcome as I would really like to get a lead on any of the remaining family members in Cardiff who might have any information about what it was like when my grandmother, Gwenllian Jones,was growing up there as one of (the Harbourmaster) Benjamin Jones' children between 1890-1910 Regards John of Balmain Sydney

JOHN I AM READING THE INFO FROM THE ACTUAL CENSUS IMAGE,, SO IT IS AUTHENTIC IN 1851,,, AS FOR 1861 CANT FIND THEM AS OF YET BUT I WILL KEEP LOOKIG OK.... IF YOU NEED ANYTHING LET ME KNOW OK REGARDS DEBS

Hi Deb Thanks for the info on John Jones 1851 census, much appreciated. However the ifo seems to be at odds with the 1861 info I supplied you with. This info came from me trying to read some very spidery writing and i am very uncertain about the 2nd last child aged 6 which looks to me like Margaret David???. The last child also looks like David aged 2 which agrees with the 1871 info (age 12) but is at odds with your 1851 census which also has a David age 2 (abt 1849). As I am a newby to all this I don't know whether you look up the original census page or a transcribed typed copy. Anyway to cut a long story short are you able to check John Jones 1861Public record office reference 9/4037 (I dont know if this helps?) also I can't make out the street, sorry Any help would be much appreciated Regards John from Balmain Sydney

HELENE 1901 BENJAMIN AND PARENTS View Record Annie E Barnes abt 1882 Holme, Westmorland, England Servant Hutton Lancashire View Record Joseph Garner abt 1884 Lathom, Lancashire, England Servant Hutton Lancashire View Record Annie J Raby abt 1898 Hutton, Lancashire, England Daughter Hutton Lancashire BENJAMIN RABY abt 1867 Hambleton, Lancashire, England Head Hutton Lancashire BEMJAMIN RABY abt 1900 Hutton, Lancashire, England Son Hutton Lancashire ELIZABETH RABY abt 1868 Hutton, Lancashire, England Wife Hutton Lancashire View Record George R Raby abt 1896 Hutton, Lancashire, England Son Hutton Lancashire View Record William H Raby abt 1897 Hutton, Lancashire, England Son Hutton Lancashire address tarrers/farrers ??? farm, hutton, lancs 1891 ELIZABETH AND PARENTS henry hesketh hd 56 FARMER annie wi 55 william son 30 harry son 28 ellen dau 27 john son 24 ELIZABETH DAU 23 ROBERT SON 19 annie dau 14 address botton of hutton, hutton, lancs all were born hutton THIS IS ELIZBETHS BROTHER ROBERT, FROM 1891 ABOVES MARRIAGE, THEY GOT MARRIED ON THE SAME DAY AND PLACE..... ROBERT HESKETH Chorley Lancashire 1895 March Marriages Preston Lancashire AND MARGARET HANNAH WHITTLE 1895 March Marriages Preston Lancashire BENJAMINS PARENTS MARRIAGE ELIZABETH HESKETH 1895 March Marriages Preston Lancashire AND BENJAMIN RABY 1895 March Marriages Preston Lancashire 1901 ELIZABETHS BROTHER View Record Anne Hesketh abt 1899 Preston, Lancashire, England Daughter Preston Lancashire View Record Henry Hesketh abt 1897 Preston, Lancashire, England Son Preston Lancashire MARGARET HANNAH HESKETH abt 1875 Preston, Lancashire, England Wife Preston Lancashire STOCKING FILLER ROBERT HESKETH abt 1871 Hutton, Lancashire, England Head Preston Lancashire STOCKING FILLER View Record William Hesketh abt 1896 Hutton, Lancashire, England Son Preston Lancashire View Record Annie Nickson abt 1877 Preston, Lancashire, England Boarder Preston Lancashire View Record May Nickson abt 1895 Preston, Lancashire, England Boarder Preston Lancashire address 177 north rd, preston, lancs 1881 ELIZABETHS PARENTS ANNIE HESKETH abt 1837 Hutton, Lancashire, England Wife Bottom Of Hutton, Hutton, Lancashire, England View Record Annie Hesketh abt 1877 Hutton, Lancashire, England Daughter Bottom Of Hutton, Hutton, Lancashire, England View Record Ellen Hesketh abt 1864 Hutton, Lancashire, England Daughter Bottom Of Hutton, Hutton, Lancashire, England View Record Harold Hesketh abt 1880 Hutton, Lancashire, England Son Bottom Of Hutton, Hutton, Lancashire, England HENRY HESKETH abt 1836 Hutton, Lancashire, England Head Bottom Of Hutton, Hutton, Lancashire, England FARMER OF 24 ACRES View Record Robert Hesketh abt 1871 Hutton, Lancashire, England Son Bottom Of Hutton, Hutton, Lancashire, England 1871 ELIZABETHS PARENTS AND HER FATHERS MOTHER ANN HESKETH abt 1837 Hutton, Lancashire, England Daughter Hutton Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Hesketh abt 1868 Hutton, Lancashire, England Granddaughter Hutton Lancashire ELLEN HESKETH abt 1811 Hutton, Lancashire, England HEAD Hutton Lancashire FARMER OF 16 ACRES View Record Ellen Hesketh abt 1864 Hutton, Lancashire, England Granddaughter Hutton Lancashire HENRY HESKETH abt 1836 Hutton, Lancashire, England Son Hutton Lancashire FARMER View Record Henry Hesketh abt 1863 Hutton, Lancashire, England Grandson Hutton Lancashire View Record John Hesketh abt 1857 Hutton, Lancashire, England Nephew Hutton Lancashire View Record John Hesketh abt 1867 Hutton, Lancashire, England Grandson Hutton Lancashire View Record Robert Hesketh abt 1871 Hutton, Lancashire, England Grandson Hutton Lancashire View Record William Hesketh abt 1861 Hutton, Lancashire, England Grandson Hutton Lancashire address bottom of hutton, hutton, lancs 1861 ELIZABETHS PARENTS AND HER MOTHERS PARENTS ANN HESKETH abt 1838 Hutton, Lancashire, England Wife Hutton Lancashire HENRY HESKETH abt 1836 Hutton, Lancashire, England Son-in-law Hutton Lancashire AG LAB View Record Isabella Hesketh abt 1860 Hutton, Lancashire, England Daughter Hutton Lancashire View Record William Hesketh abt 1861 Hutton, Lancashire, England Son Hutton Lancashire ELIZABETH WORTHINGTON abt 1816 Hutton, Lancashire, England Wife Hutton Lancashire View Record Isabella Worthington abt 1841 Hutton, Lancashire, England Daughter Hutton Lancashire ROBERT WORTHINGTON abt 1811 Hutton, Lancashire, England Head Hutton Lancashire AG LAB View Record Robert Worthington abt 1855 Hutton, Lancashire, England Son Hutton Lancashire address bottom of hutton , hutton, lancs 1861 living a couple of doors away is ELIZABETHS FATHERS MOTHER ELLEN HESKETH abt 1811 Hutton, Lancashire, England Head Hutton Lancashire FARMER OF 7 ACRES View Record John Hesketh abt 1857 Hutton, Lancashire, England Grandson Hutton Lancashire View Record Margaret Hesketh abt 1814 Hutton, Lancashire, England Sister Hutton Lancashire HOPE THIS HELPS YOU REGARDS DEBS