Genealogy Chat

Hi again Mike. Thanks for that. A while ago I did send for the 1873 birth certificate for George but they didn't send it as the parents names didn't match. When George married in 1910 he put his father down as George (dec'd), and so this was the name I put as father when I applied for the certificate. However, since discovering that Jane was unmarried when she had him, I now realise that George (Snr) was actually Jane's father, so George Jnr's grandfather. Perhaps I should apply again with no parent details. What do you think? Kind regards Bev

Mike Thanks for that, I thought you had the info at your fingertips otherwise I wouldn't have asked. Much appreciated as ever Elaine

Greeting's Again Beverly Perry.... I've taken the details down & I'll see what I can find for St. Mary De Castro Parish Registers sometime this week at Wigston Records Office. Was this NOT your George then ? :- Births. June Qrt. 1873. George Carter. Leicester. Cert No. 7a. 237. ElLAINE..... Same applies to your inquiry re Marriage Nailstone. MIKE.

Thank you very much for Emma Baines. That is the one I found earlier. Do you have the 1841 census. I wonder if you could find Mary Baines living with her daughter Eleanor who would be about 4 which might give us a father for Emma. It is quite exciting as I thought I had reached a brick wall once I found Emma had been orphaned. Do you know where Tugby is?

Hi Mike Any chance of looking up who the witnesses were for this marriage please Sarah Moore marrying Henry Ball at Nailstone 10 Nov 1836 thank you Elaine

Hi Mike A few months ago you very kindly looked up some information for me regarding my grandfather George Carter b abt 1873. In the 1881 census he was living at 8H ct B, Oxford St, Leicester along with his sister Harriett b abt 1880 and his mother Jane b abt 1850. Jane's condition to marriage was listed as 'windower' which I had assumed to be widow. I could find no records for them after that date until you quite rightly suggested that Jane may have remarried, and you came up with her marriage date and new family name. To cut a long story short I have since discovered that Jane wasn't actually married when she had her children. I have been unable to find the correct birth registrations for George or Harriett to find out who their father(s) was, and wondered if you had access to the St Marys Parish records to see if they were baptised at all. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bev

Hi Annie I dont know whether this is the one 1871 Census 44 High Street Hallaton Leicester Charles Baines head 1822 hallaton Sarah wife 1816 Tugby Anne daughter 1853 Hallaton Julia daughter 1854 Hallaton Lucy daughter 1852 Hallaton Emma Baines Niece 1845 Leicester Anne Goward sister in law 1822 Tugby Mary Ann Simkin Servant 1854 Hallaton Bev

I have asked for help before on this one. Emma Baines born about 1841. You found her for me in 1851. I have now been contacted by a genes member who could be a relative and wonder if you could find her on the 1871 census. I know she was living with her uncle as her parents had died but have forgotten his name. I have very few details of her family and would love to know if our family trees are indeed connected.

Hi Mike Thanks as always, yes I would believe that about the registers. I rang them about coroners reports and of course the year I want is missing so when I finally get there I will be searching through newspapers and no doubt some phenomenom will have destroyed them or the only available micro fiche will be broken LOL Elaine

*** F. A. O. Elaine *** Details of those Elizabeth Moore Marriages :- John Sutton.~ Elizabeth Moore. All Saints Parish Church. Nailstone. Entry No. John Sutton. Bach. of the Parish of Newtown Linford Leicestershire. Elizabeth Moore Spinster of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. This Fifth Day of November in the year of out Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred & Twenty Seven. By Me:- Robert Crockett. Rector. John signed by his own Signature Elizabeth by her Mark = + Witt's :- William Moore by his mark = X. Sarah Palmer. = + Holy Rood Church. Bagworth. Joseph Reily. Bach of this Parish. Elizabeth Moore Spinster of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns with the consent of Parents. By Me Samuel Roe Curate of Thornton Parish. This Eight Day of November One Thousand Eight Hundred & Twenty Seven. Joesph signed by his own Signature Elizabeth by her Mark = + Witt's John Burck. by Mark = + Sarah Reily by her Mark = X I had a go at your Thomas & Hannah Powell again... Would you believe it that the Banns Registers for years 1811 through to 1897 were missing ...grrrrr..... Had another look at the Marriage though St. Margaret's Parish Church. Entry No. 321. 25th. Dec. 1833. Just states that both were of this Parish ( St. Margaret's ) Witt's John Stringer ( Signed alot of Registers ) Thomas Debose. MIKE.

Greetings Mike! How half baked can I get! As you'd sent me a pm asking for more details on my John Thomas Read I'd automatically assumed that your response would come in the same fashion! That'll teach me not to assume! You'll have read my pm of today thanking you for all your efforts and now I click on to this thread and see all the painstaking information you posted yesterday! You can't imagine how much of an idiot I'm feeling! Your info certainly sounds most promising, particularly with the Bengal India connection. How on earth did you find that bit out? Thank you for everything. Cherry

Greeting’s Again Cherry, Thank you for your message re:- Censuses.... UPDATE….. Births Found :- April. ~ May. ~ Jun. Qrt. 1840. JOHN READ.. Leicester. Cert No. XV. 130. Also from the Overseas Army Births :- MINNIE READ.. Bengal India. 1881. Page. 115. ( This might answer why John’s wife was not on the 1881. Census. ? ) Going on the John's Birth details found above. Now looking at this John for 1851. Census. ( Census night = Sunday 1st.April. 1851. ) 1851. Census. HO 107 / 2089 / 527 /Page. 27 LEICESTER. St. Margaret’s Parish. No. 10, Berkley Street. 10 BERKLEY ST WILLIAM READ HEAD M 48 M AG. LAB LEI EARL SHILTON 10 BERKLEY ST JANE READ WIFE M 47 F LEI EAST WITON? 10 BERKLEY ST FRANCIS READ SON U 19 M TRIMMER LEI FRIARS 10 BERKLEY ST ELIZABETH READ DAU U 17 F TICKETER OF COTTON BOBBINS LEI LEICESTER 10 BERKLEY ST SARAH READ DAU 14 F LEI LEICESTER 10 BERKLEY ST THOMAS READ SON 13 M TRIMMER LEI LEICESTER 10 BERKLEY ST GEORGE READ SON 11 M PREPARER FOR STAMPING LEI ALST 10 BERKLEY ST * JOHN READ * SON 9 M SCHOLAR LEI SMGT 10 BERKLEY ST ANN READ DAU 6 F SCHOLAR LEI SMGT 10 BERKLEY ST WILLIAM READ SON 4MTHS M LEI SMGT ALST. = All Saints Parish. SMGT. = St. Margaret’s Parish.(Which matches the Parish given on other Censuses.81,91. ) MIKE.

Greeting's & Welcome Trudi....... Jane has beat me to it ( How's you didding M'Duck ? ) You'll find your George on the 1891. Census Indexed as George DAYLEY. :- Ref No. :- RG 12 / 2505 / 40 / Pages 27 ~ 28. Although on my Index Disk For 1891. from Leicester & Rutland Family History Society He is Down as DAGLEY..... And thanks to Elaine....... You'll find your George on the 1901 Census :- RG 13 / 2964 / 55 / Pages 21. ~ 22. Yes in 1881 The BOAR WAR was going on So George could well be abroad for that Census... MIKE.

Trudi, 1891: Barwell, Mill st DAYLEY George , 36 DAYLEY Ellen 36 DAYLEY Frederick G 8 DAYLEY Laura E 5

Hi all Just found this and the site has various records, all Quorn if you are looking for rels there http://www(.)quorndon-mag(.)org.uk/archive/_genealogy/genealogy.html remove brackets as ever Elaine

Hi again Mike! Kitten's given up on genealogy and resumed his original hobby of knocking seven bells out of the older cat,lol I've given him 'paws for thoughts' and clipped his claws, that'll give him a little less purchase on my paperwork and hopefully the Sunday papers too! Well........... my elusive (John) Thomas Reed/Read, (why oh why couldn't he have been a Montague Scrutton Mawdesley or summat?) The info which I know to be 100% is:- 1881 Census Occupation : Army Pensioner Laundryman (Leicestershire - St Margarets) (wife not listed but was poss having one of the kids?) he married a widow Laura Eliza Donnelly nee Blaver in Bengal 1875 As he was 34 when they married and Laura brought her two girls Laura and Adelaide (both born in India) into the household I did wonder whether he too had been married previously but perhaps he was just a late starter for those days,lol 1891 Census Occupation Laundryman (Leicestershire - St Margarets) Wife Louisa E Read Hmm... wonder whether his parents were in the laundry business too, perhaps they lived in shed off the beaten track and escaped the census. Many thanks again for your time and trouble Cherry

Hi Mike I think we must be related somewhere along the line, you read my mind about the boatman and knowing my lot. Yes please would appreciate you looking at the records office for me. Have seen a thread about Banns Registers. Do you know if St Margs would have one at the records office? might be the only way I am going to find where Thomas and Hannah were born . Thanks as always Elaine

Hi everyone, If anyone is going to the record office please can they help? My great grandfather George Dagley brn 1883 does not appear on ancestry for the 1891 or 1881 census. In 1882 he married Ellen Jones,so in 1892 he should be listed as having 2 children - Laura and Frederick. I have seen the record for 1881 but he is not living with his parents. He would around 18. Did they do any military service at this time?? Very confused!!! Trudi

Greeting's Again Cherry...... I do hope you are feeling better ...... Don't worry too much the ages don't always match up precisely from census to Census ...... Now..... We are here to help you....... So... In order to narrow it down ... Can you tell me what Occupation John Thomas has on your finding's ? I have tracked John T Read ( Parents Thomas & Caroline ) through Censuses 51, ( See post ) 61, aged 16 Labourer born St. Mary's In 71 He is aged 28. a Stoker ( Factory) Born Leicester. & married To a Sarah A. aged 25. On the 81 census ( Both through my Disks & via the Nett ) I can only find the following :- JOHN READ 41. Traveler in Boot & Shoe Trade. Born just Leicester. Wife. just as S. A. Or JOHN READ 38. Shoe Maker. born St. Mary's. Married to a Elizabeth. born All Saints Leicester. Best tell your Kitten to...... ' Paws for thoughts' next time ..lol.... :0)))) Look forward to your next message ..... MIKE.

Oh, I'm so sorry Elaine, Mike - I went off on a little journey hoping that I could come back and say 'Yup that's the one!' What 'worries' me is that on the 1891 & 1891 Censuses he's described as being born Leicestershire - St Margarets. His age in 1881 is given as 40. The John Thomas Reed Mike's so kindly offered up would have been round about the 38 mark on the 1881 Census and the district is Leicester St Mary De Castro Parish. I spent yonks reading through the tips board and found reference to the Hugh Wallis website so I had a look at that for Leicester and found zilch for my John Thomas! I then abandoned my search for John Thomas, thinking that tomorrow might be a luckier day and turned to his daughter, my Grandma's husband's family, only to discover that an Uncle had been killed in the First World War. That was quite a poignant moment to see the inscription on the stone and I didn't even know the guy! It's probably very necessary for me to pay attention to one thing at a time don't you think! To crown it all I was reorganising my paper files and our young kitten decided to help out when my back was turned. It'll take me a month of Sundays to put it all back together! Despite my tribulations I'm very appreciative of your help and will report back as soon as I dry the tears and get on with it lol!