Genealogy Chat

Hello again Mike, The marriages are correct, the burial could well be Hannah (Pym), as I don't know where husband George Parker was born, a daughter Mary Parker was baptised at Lockington on 11 Dec 1820, Hannah may have died in childbirth. The Barrow connection is Thomas Whyman who married Catharine Pym, Elaine supplied data for a Thomas and Mary Whyman of Barrow, (if I've got the right Thomas), another Thomas Whyman was baptised at All Saints, Loughborough on 15-7-1783, I'm not positive on which one Catherine married. Regards, Ralph

Greeting's Again Ralph... Sorry no George in Barrow 1841. Census.... Found these Burials which could be Thomas & Mary :- BARROW ON SOAR WHYMAN MARY 10 DEC 1854 59 WIFE OF THOMAS BARROW ON SOAR WHYMAN THOMAS 20 JAN 1875 85 Would it help if I had a look at Lockington Parish Records At Wigston Records Office sometime this week.. It might just give details of George either in Mary's Christening or his Marriage....? MIKE.

Hi Mike, Thats very kind of you, and much appreciated, while there do you think you could have a quick look in the Kegworth records , Methodist and Baptist, for these baptisms,all Pyms Thomas 13-10-1822 Catharine 30-3-1825 Susan 12-8-1827 Eliza 26-12-1830 Phillip 14-4-1833 Father will be Thomas Pym, mother not known, remember the saga, I checked Kegworth and Diseworth on the IGI and they weren't baptised there, I think the Methodists were active in Kegworth at this time, not sure when chapel built tho' Regards, Ralph

Hello again Mike, Have had a look in my notes and found that the present Methodist Church was opened c1808 on the site of a former chapel, and the Baptist Church opened c1815. You must think I have an infernal cheek asking for bapts checked in Methodist and Baptist PR's, but the info was supplied by a cousin, since deceased, and I have no way of knowing which PR's he checked to get the info in the first place. Also, it took me 25 yrs to find my maternal 5xGGM, and I don't think I have another 25yrs left !! before I pass the baton to my daughters Best Regards, Ralph

Hi Mike Been trying to get on IGI batch numbers all day and cant get on there...would it be possible if you have the details to check for me...I have a John James Grant (born about 1858 in Leicester) who is lodging with his wife Sarah Grant (Sarah born 1858 Iin Rowley Staffs )and daughter Grace E Grant (8mths old born in Leicester) living at 144 Crafton street in 1881. they are lodging with John Cane (about 1832 Ireland) wife Bridget Cane (about1833 Ireland) and daughter Catherine Cane (about 1866 Rowley Staffs). Seeing as Sarah Grant and Catherine Cane are born in the same area i thought they might be sisters...and looked on free BMD for John James Grants marriage came up with Marriages September 1879 CAIN SARAH LEICESTER 7a 343 and JOHN GRANT LEICESTER 7a 343 . but no idea what church ...could you possibly help me as i dont know if it is a catholic marriage or other thanks in advance Donna

Greeting's Again Donna.... Like your good self I too am having trouble with I.G.I. ( Site Down ) BUT...with the use of loads of ' Wild Cards' on Ancestry site.. I think this answers your problem .... 1871. Census. RG 10 / 3281 / 10 / Page. 13. Leicester. St. Margaret's Parish. No. 32. Devonshire Street. View Record Bridget Cain abt 1831 Ireland Wife Leicester Leicestershire View Record Bridget Cain abt 1859 Staffordshire, England Daughter Leicester Leicestershire View Record * Catherin Cain abt 1866 Staffordshire, England Daughter Leicester Leicestershire View Record John Cain abt 1832 Ireland Head Leicester Leicestershire View Record Maria Cain abt 1855 Rowley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Leicester Leicestershire View Record * Sarah Cain abt 1857 Rowley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Leicester Leicestershire Having looked that those Marriages Which didn't give spouses name on any of them ....Grr I think they could well be a Civil / Non conformists Marriage services ? .... Which would mean the only way to see the full details is to order the Certificates MIKE.

Hi Mike Thank you for looking for me really appreciate it...I have know come to tthe conclusion that all roads are leading to Ireland and Scotland...lol....lots of foot work afoot...i have found my Grants in 1891 living at 132 Wellington street and was up town yesterday and had alook think it was where the court is now as the even numbers are that side and start at the bottom...i even nipped into Holy Cross Roman Catholic Church thinking that was were they had married just to have a look around you can see where it has had wings added beautiful ceiling.... i have also found Garibaldi cottages which was on Curzon street once again thanks for the help. warm regards Donna

Hi, Just found some links to Leicestershire - regions, Bitteswell, Lutterworth and Gilmorton. The names are: HALES, BISHOP and LOOMES. Does anyone have any connection? Dea

Mike, I am told you are the expert here. Can you help re above message? Dea

Greeting’s & Welcome Dea…. I’m not sure as to what help you require so I’ll kick it off with Burials :- Locations./ Names. / Dates./ AGE. / Last known address. BITTESWELL BISHOP WILLIAM 01 APR 1816 55 BITTESWELL BISHOP ANN 03 JAN 1823 60 BITTESWELL HALES FREDERICK HERBERT 28 MAR 1847 6MTHS BITTESWELL HALES SAMUEL 01 MAR 1848 57 BITTESWELL HALES ELIZABETH 20 NOV 1852 33 BITTESWELL HALES ANN 07 NOV 1870 79 ABODE LUTTERWORTH BITTESWELL LOOMES JOSEPH 20 SEP 1818 73 BITTESWELL LOOMES MARY 19 MAR 1827 INF BITTESWELL LOOMES MARY 22 JUL 1870 84 BITTESWELL LOOMS MARY 09 JUL 1822 56 BITTESWELL LOOMS JOHN 28 MAR 1832 78 BITTESWELL LOOMS WILLIAM 21 NOV 1845 20 BITTESWELL LOOMS THOMAS 06 MAR 1850 72 GILMORTON BISHOP ANN 11 FEB 1813 35WKS GILMORTON BISHOP WILLIAM 23 MAY 1813 81 GILMORTON BISHOP SUSANNAH 21 JAN 1818 18 GILMORTON BISHOP WILLIAM 01 JAN 1819 9DAYS GILMORTON BISHOP WILLIAM 09 FEB 1823 34 GILMORTON BISHOP GEORGE TEALBY 19 NOV 1826 27WKS GILMORTON BISHOP MARY 04 DEC 1831 68 GILMORTON BISHOP THOMAS 20 FEB 1834 69 GILMORTON BISHOP MARY 12 MAY 1850 67 GILMORTON BISHOP HENRY 04 OCT 1850 9MTHS GILMORTON BISHOP MARIA BLOXSOM 06 JUN 1852 1MTH GILMORTON BISHOP ROBERT 30 MAY 1853 78 GILMORTON BISHOP ANN 07 AUG 1857 52 GILMORTON BISHOP ELIZA 06 SEP 1863 12 GILMORTON BISHOP HENRY 28 JAN 1867 73 GILMORTON BISHOP ALLIN 26 JUN 1868 9MTHS GILMORTON BISHOP ELIZABETH 28 DEC 1869 82 GILMORTON BISHOP HARRY 01 SEP 1871 1YR 6MTHS GILMORTON BISHOP THOMAS 16 AUG 1874 70 ABODE ROYAL INFIRMARY LEICESTER GILMORTON BISHOP MARY 30 AUG 1878 45 GILMORTON BISHOP SARAH 25 AUG 1886 76 GILMORTON BISHOP ELIZA 08 SEP 1891 58 WIFE OF THOMAS NO HALES Found GILMORTON LOOMES MARY 22 SEP 1815 67 GILMORTON LOOMES JOHN 09 NOV 1822 66 LUTTERWORTH BISHOP ELIZABETH 09 APR 1813 44 ABODE BITTESWELL LUTTERWORTH BISHOP ANN 18 MAR 1832 58 DIXON'S YARD LUTTERWORTH BISHOP EDWARD 02 JAN 1841 77 DIXON'S YARD LUTTERWORTH BISHOP ANNE 31 MAR 1847 10MTHS UNION HOUSE LUTTERWORTH HALE CATHERINE 22 FEB 1828 35 HELY LANE LUTTERWORTH HALE WILLIAM 03 APR 1840 65 HILLY LANE LUTTERWORTH HALES MARGARET EMMA 22 JUL 1866 8MTHS HIGH ST LUTTERWORTH HALES JANE EUINICE 17 NOV 1867 34 BEAST MARKET LUTTERWORTH LOOMES CATHERINE 30 JAN 1819 74 BAKEHOUSE LANE LUTTERWORTH LOOMES JOHN 18 JUL 1847 25 WOOD MARKET LUTTERWORTH LOOMES EDWARD 25 JAN 1849 17MTHS HILLY LANE LUTTERWORTH LOOMES JOHN 15 MAY 1849 56 HILLY LANE LUTTERWORTH LOOMES THOMAS 27 MAR 1854 24 WOOD MARKET LUTTERWORTH LOOMES THOMAS 18 NOV 1861 68 HILLY LANE LUTTERWORTH LOOMES MARY 08 JUL 1866 73 WOOD MARKET LUTTERWORTH LOOMES SARAH 04 DEC 1870 22 BAKE HOUSE LANE LUTTERWORTH LOOMES ELIZABETH 12 MAY 1875 82 LUTTERWORTH LOOMS JANET 08 JAN 1827 55 WOOD MARKET LUTTERWORTH LOOMS WILLIAM 12 JAN 1832 INF GREYHOUND LANE LUTTERWORTH LOOMS FRANCES 25 MAR 1834 INF GREYHOUND LANE LUTTERWORTH LOOMS THOMAS 21 SEP 1841 53 WOOD MARKET LUTTERWORTH LOOMS ELIZABETH 07 DEC 1851 32 HILLY LANE LUTTERWORTH LOOMS JOSEPH 27 MAY 1852 32 HILLY LANE LUTTERWORTH LOOMS JOHN 03 MAY 1853 INF HILLY LANE LUTTERWORTH LOOMS LETITIA 07 FEB 1857 62 LUTTERWORTH LOOMS WILLIAM 22 NOV 1857 1YR 9MTHS DIXON'S COURT MIKE.

GGaawwdd Mike - I'm sorry I asked now !! (Seriously - thank you for the info). I have found over 50 new people today so I am swamped. I have looked at your list but can't find a connection. Some of the people I have found are: BISHOP Nancy c 1791 Gilmorton married Samuel HALES in 1811 Her parents were Edward Bishop + Mary Loomes Siblings were: BISHOP Edward c 1794 Gilmorton BISHOP Elizabeth c 1783 Gilmorton I THINK that is all correct but I only found it today. I would be grateful for any extra info you may have. Samuel HALES +Nancy BISHOP had possible children: Alfred c 1827 John c 1814 -married Mary A children: Frances M c.1847, John A c 1844, Sarah E c 1850, William, c 1845 - all born Kenilworth. Sarah c 1816 James c 1822 married Mary - son George c1848 Samuel c 1829 William c 1812 Mary Ann c 1813 Elizabeth c 181 Edward c 1825 married Selina -daugt. Selina Eliza c 1850 Samuel Hales m. c1811 seems to have died before 1851. Thanks for any help (but please be gentle with the info) Regards, Dea

Hi Mike, I have just started to look again at the Jarvis side of my family and wondered if you could help. I have the birth certificate for Arthur Ernest Jarvis born 31 December 1876 father John Jarvis Elastic Weaver mother Martha Jarvis formaly Law Address 18 Talbot Lane Leicester I have found them on the 1861 and 1871 census. I cannot find a marriage certificate/record for John and Martha. I have looked on Ancestry etc. and IGI but nothing. I can find a John Jarvis and on the same page a Martha Tailby in June 1867 Their oldest child William Thomas appears to have been born in June quarter 1862. Can you see a marriage in any of your records? Thanks JoJo

Hi Jo Jo Sure Mike will find it later but just in case, they are not on the St Margarets Register but in case you dson't know the site here are the Tailby's on there just in case you find other family TAILBY ELIZABETH,1841,HENRY TEBBUTT,2 FRANCES,1838,WILLIAM BROWN,1 FRANCES,1854,CHARLES CROWDELL,6 JANE,1857,JOHN CHENEY,6 JOHN ABRAHAM,1867,HARRIET STEVENS,9 MARY,1842,JOSEPH TRUEMAN,2 SARAH,1840,CHARLES SPENCER,1 THOMAS,1849,CATHERINE NEWTON,4 THOMAS,1867,SARAH WRIGHT,9 THOMAS,1872,MARY ANN BREWIN,10 THOMAS,1882,MARY ANN GREEN,11 WILLIAM,1850,ELIZABETH BROWN,4 Elaine

Jo Jo It won't let me leave the full address of the site, sorry Elaine

Thanks Elaine, I did not add the former name for Martha which was Law. Is the site you looked on Hugh Wallis, if not could you pm me? Thanks again JoJo.

Good day Mike, how are you? Can you tell me if you have a death for William Page 1880 for Lutterworth, if so is that the district where he died or would that be the place where he died, as I have looked on BMD and it tells me Lutterworth. Also when on BMD it says Blaby would that be where people registered the family or would that be the place they died? Sue....... Have a good day.

Greeting's Again Jo Jo..... Marriage details from Records Office. Leicester. All Saints parish Church. Married in this Church according to the rites Ceremonies of the established Church by Banns and with the consent of both parents This Sixteenth Day March. One Thousand Eight Hundred Sixty Seven. By Me James Davis.... Curate. John Jarvis. Bachelor. Full Age. Elastic Web Weaver. of Talbot Lane. Father William Jarvis. Frame Work Knitter. Martha LAW.Spinster. Full Age. of Talbot Lane Father James ? Law. Labourer. Both signed by their own signatures. Wittiness :- Gemmi Gibson. Mary Gibson. Both signed by their Mark + That Martha Tailby was a Unmarried Mother to a 9 year old Boy Thomas Lodging in Carley Street. 1861.Census. Hope this helps you ..... MIKE.

Greeting's Again Dea..... Marriage Details found at Records Office ..... Page 212. Hinckley. St. Mary's Parish Church. Married in this Church according to the rites and Ceremonies of the established Church by LICENCE. By Me. :- H.E. Holland. Curate. This Fourteenth Day May One Thousand Eight Hundred Eleven. With the consent of Edward Bishop Father Frame Work Knitter of Cosby Leicestershire. Samuel Hales.21. Bachelor. Blacksmith. of the Parish of Husbands Bosworth. Nancy Bishop. 19. Minor of this Parish. Both signed by their own Signatures. Wittiness :- Edward Bishop. Mary Ridgeway. Both signed by their own signatures. Hope this helps you ..... MIKE.

Greeting's Again Ralph Weatherill...... Marriage details :- St. Nicholas Parish Church. Lockington. Entry No. 18. George Parker. Bachelor of the Parish of Stretton La Fields. Hannah Pymm. Spinster of this Parish. George Signed by his Mark + Hannah by her own Signature. Married in this Church with the consent of both parents by Banns. By Me :- C. Chew. Curate. This Eight Day of January. One Thousand Eight Hundred and Sixteen. Wittiness :- Thomas Whyman. Robert Whyman. Both signed by their own signatures. I didn't find the Mariage of Thomas Whyman & Catherine Maybe it's in Barrow so will have a look next time at Records Office....Sorry. Christening's Found.= St. Nicholas Church. Mary Parker.Daughter of George & Hannah Labourer Lockington 11th. Dec. 1820. C. Chew Curate. John Parker Son of George & Hannah Parker. Labourer. Lockington. 26th.April. 1816. C. Chew Curate. Stephen Parker. Son Of George & Hannah Parker Labourer. Lockington. 7th. February. 1818. C. Chew Curate. I couldn't find George or Hannah's Christening but will try again next time.... Whilst trawling through the Parish Records came across this one .... Marriage .... William Pymm of Lockington. Elizabeth Barber. of Castle Donnington. 15th. January 1781. By Banns. Wittiness Joseph Shaw & John Shaw. All signed by their own signatures ...... Re :- Methodist Records Lockington Wigston has not got any records for the years you were interested in BUT ...... Write to :- Methodist Archives & Research Centre John Rylands University Library of Manchester Oxford Road. Manchester. M 13 9 PP. Hope this helps you ....... MIKE.

Thanks Mike, apologies did not check All Saints. As John is listed with three children prior to '67 and married as a batchelor I assume he was living with Martha before they were married. Wonder what made them get married, wish I could ask someone!! Once again thanks for your help. JoJo