Genealogy Chat

Hi Looking for in Leicester at the moment are Thomas Tillson b, dec 1801 in StonyStanton married to Jane Holyland July 1832 in Desford leicester no addresses or deaths im still looking. They had 3 children George oct 1852 married to Jane Carter(b abt 1855 Northampton) in 1874 St Matthews in St Margarets address I have for George are 22 Chandos St- 39 Bidulp St -89 Guthlaxton St. Sarah bet 1874-1876 ? Bertha Hellen 1884 ? Also Lucy Newell born in the Union Workhouse Enderby b.May 1883 d.1956? Gilrose cemetery married to Richard Tillson Dec 1908 dont know when he died, but planning a visit to Leicester records office soon ! I only have the mother stated on the birth cert. Mary Newell ? I don`t know where to go with her to get any further. Any help would be gratefuly recieved Thankyou Debs

Hi Debs Try this one, Bev has recommended it before http://www(.)theyorks.org.uk/enderbyvillage%201.htm remove bracket as usual Elaine

Hi Debs Is this them On 1861 Census 73 Long Street Stoney Stanton Jane head mar 1810 Desford George son 1854 Stoney Stanton John son 1835 Desford Ann daughter 1846 Stoney Stanton RG9/2259 Folio 126 Page 14 On 1871 Census 105 Long Street Stoney Stanton Jane head wid Ann daughter Charles Riley grandson 1850 Stoney Stanton Alfred Tilson grandson 1870 Stoney Stanton Thomas W Tilson grandson 1868 Stoney Stanton Thomas Toone Boarder RG10/3235 Folio 123 Page 17 Bev

Thankyou both (she says jumping up and down ) Im not very good at finding what I put on is there an easy way ?? Debs

Greeting’s Again Shelia……. I’ve tracked William back through the Censuses 81,aged 64. 71,Aged. 53. 61.Aged 42. Although ages do go up & down but the Occupation remains the same..Carpenter. And place of birth stated as Unitied States, America. And in 81 has it down as New Yorkshire ? Not sure for the 1851 Census these look interesting…….. Just wonder if the elder William (59) is his Father….. Going on the Occupation ? Or could William have been in the States for this One ? ….. 1851. Census. 2090 / 629 / 32 / 85. 583 629 32 85 LEICESTER TEMPORARY WORKHOUSE INFIRMARY SQ. WILLIAM WHITWORTH PAUP U 47 M LEI LEICESTER 2088 / 354 / 16 / 87. 21 UPPER CHARLES ST WILLIAM WHITWORTH HEAD M 59 M CARPENTER WAR BIRMINGHAM 21 UPPER CHARLES ST MARY WHITWORTH WIFE M 58 F LEI GLENFIELD 21 UPPER CHARLES ST EMELA WHITWORTH DAU U 23 F COTTON WINDER LEI LEICESTER 21 UPPER CHARLES ST LOUISA WHITWORTH DAU U 20 F MILLENER LEI LEICESTER 21 UPPER CHARLES ST JOHN WHITWORTH G'SON 4 M SCHOLAR LEI LEICESTER Ages are a bit out but wonder if this is Williams Burial ? Welford Road Cemetery Names./ Dates./ AGE. / Last known address./ Plot details WHITWORTH WILLIAM 2 OCT 1890 71 LEICESTER UNION HOUSE SAINT MARGARET U S 1681 C 66716 My thoughts on the Workmans Home 20 Bedford Street ? I would say it was one step up for the “Work House “ I see that there was several Workhouses One in each of the Parishes St. Margaret’s, St. Mary’s. St. Martin’s, Then they built the Big one On Sparkenhoe Street ( Hill Crest ) And close the others …… Sorry for the delay but I’ve had major PC problems… Like had to have a new Monitor … And the 1st.one did not work after 20 minutes so had to go back & get an exchange …. Grrrr MIKE.

Greeting's Deborah..... Your ' Mary Newell ' rang bells with me....... So dug out what I found then ..... Mary could have Married by now & changed her name But here is LUCY Newell. :- 1891.Census. RG 12 / 2500 / 47 / Page.17. Village of Littlethorpe. George Hill. Head. Mar. 60. Harriett. Wife. 57. John. Son. 33. William. Son. 27. Stone Quaryman. Caroline. Dau. 24. Ditto ?? Alfred. Son. 21. Ditto. Walter. Son. 17. Ditto. Edith Harriett. Dau. 13. Scholar. Alice daisy. Dau. 8. Ditto. Joshua Newell. Brother. 59. Lab. Eli Newell. Brother. 59. Lab. Eliza. Newell.Grand Daughter. 24. Charwoman. LUCY Newell.Grand Daughter. 7. Scholar. All born Littlethorpe.Leicestershire. 1881. Census.:- Dwelling: Near Fosse Road (Little Thorpe Lodge) Census Place: Cosby, Leicester, England Source: FHL Film 1341746 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3128 Folio 61 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Benjamin J. HAINES M 35 M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Head Occ: Farmer (Acres 1 Man) Eleanor HAINES M 37 F Nottingham, England Rel: Wife Occ: Farmers Wife Eleanor L. HAINES 8 F Tur Langton, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Mary J.T. HAINES 7 F Tur Langton, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Charlotte HAINES 5 F Tur Langton, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Lucy M. HAINES 3 F Leicester, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Margaret M. HAINES 1 F Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Benjamin J. HAINES 2 w M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Son Mary A. NEWELL U 17 F Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Serv Occ: General Serv. Here is Joshua Eli & Eliza 1881 Census. :- Dwelling: Narborough Lane Census Place: Cosby, Leicester, England Source: FHL Film 1341746 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3128 Folio 53 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George HILL M 54 M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Head Occ: Farm Labourer Harriet HILL M 47 F Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Wife John HILL U 23 M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Son Occ: Labourer William HILL U 17 M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Son Occ: Farm Labourer Alfred HILL U 11 M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Walter HILL 7 M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Edith HILL 3 F Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Eli NEWELL W 49 M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Farm Labourer Joshua NEWELL U 64 M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Labourer General Thomas TEBBUTT U 45 M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Baker Eliza NEWELL 14 F Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Niece Occ: Servant 1871. Census.:- RG 10 / 3233 / 50 / Page. 8. Cosby. George Hill. Head. Mar. 42. Gardener. Harriett. Wife. 36. John. Son. 112. Emma. 9. William. Son. 7. Caroline. 4. Alfred. son. 1. Joshua Newell. Brother in Law. Unmar. 45. Ag. Lab. Eli Newell. Brother in Law. WIDOW. 39. MARY. ANN. Newell. Neice. 7. Scholar. Eliza. Newell. 4. Ditto. All Born Littlethorpe Leicestershire. This should give you enough details to hopefully find her Baptism if Mary was Baptised in the Parish Records at Wigston. Good Luck. MIKE.

Hi Debs and Mike on 1891 where its got Joshua ,Eli as brother in laws with Lucy as Grandaughter they are living with a George and Harriett Hill. There was a Harriett Newell birth 1833 birth Littlethorpe so Harriett is probably there sister. Also on 1871 they are still living with George and Harriett but this time with Mary A as Niece. Eli is a widower so he might be Mary A Father Bev

Well spotted Beverly..... I've now amended the returns ....sorry smacked wrist......ouch.....:0( Writes note to myself ..... Must get use to this new screen it's like a wide screen ....lol :0)))) Mind you I don't think Caroline would like being put down as a ' Stone Quarryman' on the 1891 Census returns ? ..ummm But That's what it stated .... MIKE.

Hi Mike & Beverley Thankyou so much for your help, that little lot would have probably taken me a good year or so to work out ! It does look as if Joshua could be the father to Mary Ann & Eliza. Grandma drives me nuts with this side of the tree she insists that Lucy Newell`s mum is Mary Polly Barrett even when I have shown her the birth cert with Mary Newell stated as mum and no dad present, she does say there was something funny went off in the family ( inter-breading maybe ) never to be talked about ! Dont understand how she knows as she didnt come along till 1918 The only solution I could dream up was Mary has taken the Newell name as if she was married ?but couldnt decide which one of the Newell fellas was the father so left it blank, but cant find a birth or marriage for Mary Polly Barrett to any Newell.........??? Mary Newell apparently, died about 1948 in Leicester, so I really need to get to the Leicester Archives so the digging can commence. Thankyou again Debs x

Hi everyone, It's so good to find so many people researching Leicestershire. I have traced my fathers side (Haines) to 1830,where I am now stuck. On the 1861 census they are in Queniborough. Thomas Haines brn circa 1830. I need to get hold of the 1851 and 1841 census or visit the record office in Wigston to go further. Any Tips? as I am new to this game. Where do we get the census's from,how much do they cost? and is anyone as excited as me about all this?? I am visiting Wigston on the 1st Nov to meet a 1st cousin(I didn't know I had!untill contacting GR) and to look at the records office, library etc. I might detour to Quenborough aswell.

Hi Debs There is a Mary Newell also a William John Barratt getting married Dec 1895 Leicester Vol 7a Page 528. Also i think Eli might be the father of Mary as he is a Widower on census Bev

Hi Mike and all Thanks for the look up....have seen that Rachel before but didnt know whether to count her as mine ...shall keep her on file for now as you never know in this game if that person is yours. Just thought id let you know about my little treasure chest.... I have a birth cert for John James William Grant born 25th November 1917 entry number 211 register book 61 registered 28th December 1917 by Alfred E Manger. (No fathers name or mothers only a little cert) Also i have his death cert. I have his mothers death cert also she died 9th October 1936 at the Royal Infirmary Leicester Florence Lucy Grant 44 years old of 35 Brougham street wife of John James Grant engineer grinder hosiery machine builder . Died of heart failure and aplastic anaemia certified by a C H Comtie registered 10th October signature of Alfred E Manger (spooky he had registered her sons birth 19 years before ) Then on two very brown and very ripped pieces of paper you can make out that her husbands birth cert which reads John James Grant 10th or 16th September registered 13th October 1890. Also a cert for post war credit (issued to the first John in the list) that has a stamp on it for 9th June 1848. Well that was all but loads if you get my meaning....hope you all have had a lovely weekend and that your new monitor is looking good Mike . warm regards Donna

Hi Trudi I have just nipped into the library which holds 1851 census book for Queniborough found these Haines Elizabeth aged 61 Thomas aged 23 folio number 598 think it is volume 13 Queniborough falls between 590 to 604 found these others which are onlt about 15minutes walk from Queniborough just in case folio 537 Syston Alban aged 34 Ann aged 34 Edward aged 2 George aged 6 William aged 4 folio 535 Mary aged 22 Syston folio are 522 to 568 folio 635 Barkby Robert aged 14 Hope you can understand it you only get the first name and the age and the folio number which is one household ...hope it helps warm regards Donna

Thanks Donna, This is very useful, espechially the Queniborough one. What chance do you think I have got at finding a parish birth register for him at Wigston? My Family on both sides have not strayed away from sunny Leicestershire yet..and I have found that my grandparents were 1st cousins. This explains why there are alot of records for Haines around this area!!?? Thanks again Trudi

Greeting’s & Welcome Trudi… Unfortunately the 1841. Census Was too faded to be sure enough to post any details But all is not lost…. CHRISTENING’S found with Parents Thomas & Elizabeth Haines In the Village of Queniborough. Sarah Haines. 8th. December. 1822. Father:- Thomas ( Labourer ) Mother:- Elizabeth. Jane. Haines. 6th. August. 1826. THOMAS HAINES. 17th. February. 1828. Jane. Haines. 29th. May. 1831. Haines/ Hains Burials found for Queniborough :- HAINES * * THOMAS 21 JUN 1849 58 HAINES * ELIZABETH 10 JUL 1861 73 HAINES TOM 23 JUN 1862 7DAYS HAINES JOSEPH 21 APR 1868 1 HAINES MARY 12 MAY 1885 49 HAINS SARAH 23 MAR 1823 INF HAINES * THOMAS 29 APR 1898 69 * * = Thomas’s Father MIKE.

Hi All Just thought i would let you know that i have found a rellie for my mums side from Scotland on the hot matches used to think they were a load of rubbish ...until yesterday when i found a lady with 3 of my rellies in her tree this should show you how far back the link is...my nan was Agnes Walker Reid Blain Wallace Monteith the connection is the Reid name . Sothanks to this site i have found 2 rellies now Jane in Loughborough and now this new one....happy hunting hope there are more. Donna

Hi Can any one look on 1841 Census for an Elizabeth Page birth 1837 Leicester mother Maria birth 1808 Hinckley tryingg to find out who father was Thanks Bev

Greeting’s Again….. Beverly 1851. Census. 2088 / 545 / 1 / 1. Leicester. St. Margaret’s Parish. No. 4 Metcalf Street. HENRY COLTMAN HEAD M 43 M STOCKING MAKER LEI FLECKNEY MARIA COLTMAN WIFE M 43 F LEI HINCKLEY K COLTMAN DAU U 19 F SEAMSTRESS LEI SMGT S COLTMAN SON U 17 M WINDER LEI SMGT J COLTMAN DAU 14 F SEAMSTRESS LEI SMGT * ELIZABETH PAGE DIL 14 F SEAMSTRESS LEI SMGT WILLIAM PAGE SIL 5 M SCHOLAR LEI SMGT LOUISA COLTMAN DAU 1 F LEI SMGT To find them……. Hopefully…. It’s a trawl through 1841. I’ll start at Metcalf Street. 1.st. If you don’t see me for three days call “ International Rescue “…..lol :0) MIKE. And just to give you sumat to do whilst I'm gone sort this one out ....lol :0) St. Margaret's Parish Churh Leicester. Entry No.454, JUN 27, 1849, after Banns HENRY COLTMAN, full age, wid. SHOE MAKER, of GOWER St, s. of THOMAS COLTMAN, FWK MARIA PAGE, full age, wid. of GOWER St, d. of PAUL STORER, BUTCHER Wits: JOHN ADAMS, ANN PAGE

Thanks Mike I had got that of 1851 now its on Ancestry but not the marriage. I asked for the 1841 because the one im after is William and seeing as his Birth isn't till 1845 it should have Father on. Ok if we dont hear from you after 3 days ill send search party out lol Thanks again Bev

Just checked out Metcalf Street But NO Go....Only another 17 Folders to go then ...Ummm On the marriage..... though On the I.G.I. St. Mary's Hinckley Church. 25th. May 1828. Henry Page. ~ Maria CARELESS. By Banns It gets worst .......( Dur..Smacks forehead .) From my Disks St. Margaret's Church Leicester. 4th. April 1826. Henry Page. ~ Maria CARLESS. By Banns. So it's back to the dark of the 1841. census then ? .... Gulp..... MIKE.