Genealogy Chat

Thankyou very much for that, Jess - the plot thickens! Marjorie

Hi Jess. thanks for the offer. Am looking for : William S Tournay b.c.1850, Kent Mary A Tournay nee Walker b.c.1854, place unknown ?Julie Tournay b.c. 1884, place unkown Any chance of finding them in 1891 or 1901 please? I don't have anyother info on the family other than for william's parents

****************************************** Cheryl - cant even find 1901 - can you post the ref please

Jess, mine wasnt Smithers, it was Rosina Harris born Whitstable

mick 1861 in full for ref: View Record George Turley abt 1818 Lambeth, Surrey, England Head Lambeth Surrey View Record James Joseph Turley abt 1845 Lambeth, Surrey, England Son Lambeth Surrey View Record Mary Ann Turley abt 1823 Lambeth, Surrey, England Wife Lambeth Surrey

Karen you will have to start with what you DO know- find a couple of their childrens birth - the certs will tell you Ivys maiden name as well

marjorie Eliza Dawson abt 1845 Kirkham, Lancashire, England Servant Kirkham Lancashire Elizth Holden abt 1823 Raydon, Lancashire, England Wife Kirkham Lancashire Elizth Hanh Holden abt 1855 Kirkham, Lancashire, England Daughter Kirkham Lancashire James Holden abt 1818 Raydon, Lancashire, England Head Kirkham Lancashire John Jas Holden abt 1844 Raydon, Lancashire, England Son Kirkham Lancashire Louisa Auga Holden abt 1860 Kirkham, Lancashire, England Daughter Kirkham Lancashire Mary Anne Simpson abt 1836 Kirkham, Lancashire, England Servant Kirkham Lancashire household 60 Poulton St head is a 'cotton' something Source information: RG9/3145 folio 52 P 14 Registration district: Fylde Sub-registration district: Kirkham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 60 GSU Number: 543086

I'm afraid that's all I have apart from later information like children and grandchildren. But I can't find any info on them either to trace back. The four sons they had were John-1922, William-1923, Albert-1926 and George-1929.

Jess thanks for looking for my 'disappeared Smitherses' lol - gawd don't the rellies drive ya crazy!! Heather (in antipodes)

Karen that certainly is! Ok, here's a puzzler. I have a Jack Mapp who was born in 1889 <<WHERE? Was he really born 'Jack'? and later < how much later ? married a woman called Ivy. < where and about when? I can't find anything about them so good luck. < nor can i with just that info!

Heather, cant find your Smithers ..sorry

Thanks for the offer. Help needed with 1871. I have in 1861, living at , 90 Union St. Lambeth George Turley 43yrs head. Mary Ann -do- 38yrs wife James Joseph-do-16yrs son In Jn.1865, James J. married Julia Lucy b.1845(family found in 1861) They had 2 sons George J. 1865 & Cornelious 1866 I can find none of the above in the 1871 census., Mary Ann reappears in 1881 as a widow living with a daughter Mary b.1842 and a grandson, George James b.1865(son of JJ&J) I would be grateful if you could find them. TiA Mickt

Bren- have found 1901 now for ref Agness Goulden abt 1894 Birmn, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Albert Goulden abt 1871 Plymouth Head Birmingham Warwickshire Albert Goulden abt 1899 Birmn, Warwickshire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire Barbra Goulden abt 1874 Birmn, Warwickshire, England Wife Birmingham Warwickshire Barbra Goulden abt 1894 Birmn, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Sarah Goulden abt 1898 Birmn, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire 1891 - might be - strange to be the same mistranscription though Goulden, Albert abt 1872 Worbber, Devon, England Son Aston Warwickshire Goulden, Amelia abt 1842 Bridgewater, Somerset, England Head Aston Warwickshire Goulden, John abt 1867 Burton, Derbyshire, England Son Aston Warwickshire Goulden, Rosine abt 1865 Plymouth, Devon, England Daughter Aston Warwickshire Goulden, Sarah abt 1869 Weymouth, Hampshire, England Daughter Aston Warwickshire Looks like a Y on the image though address 1 back 16 Cuckoo Rd His mother Amelia is a widow 1881 cant find at the moment

Jess, wonder if you would be kind enough to look for this family in 1861 for me? I have them on 71, at: 9 Milton Polygon, Cheetham Hill, Manchester, and on 1891 at Park Avenue Southport, North Meols, Lancs - cant define them in 1881. (Ages to suit 1861 census) James Holden 43 Cotton Spinner/manuf, or similar, born Royton Lancs Elizabeth 38 wife born Royton Lancs John James Holden 17, single, born Royton Louisa (age never given!) b Kirkham, Lancs. Hopefully, another son, George Henry Holden aged 19, is also living with them. A contact from this site thinks they lived in Kirkham in 1861, but if they are not at Polygon, please don't go to any trouble, you will drown in James Holdens! Thanks in advance Olde Crone

Ok, here's a puzzler. I have a Jack Mapp who was born in 1889 and later married a woman called Ivy. I can't find anything about them so good luck.

Hi Jess, Thanks for your kind offer I have this family (my English Nan's)in 1881 and 1871, so now want to try 1861 Census. Head James SMITHERS had married wife Frances in 1857 (I do not have her maiden name) children I know about are Eliza born c 1856/7 Stephen born c 1858 next known child Henry (b 1862) etc etc BUT my nan was the youngest of this brood of 11, and I only have 10 names (my mum's notes include a Sally of whom I have no trace yet). My freebmd searches show not all children born Chobham, some fit Hambledon, so they may not live in Chobham in 1861. I hope you can find them!! I am so grateful for your time Heather (in antipodes)

Hi Jess, yes it's- RG13 Piece 2842 Folio 108 Page 22 Shedule No 127 66 Cowper St, North Birmingham, Ecclesiastical Parish St Stephen. Bren

bren - can you supply the ref for 1901

KC 1861 View Record Caroline Alsop abt 1847 Birtsmorton, Worcestershire, England Daughter Birtsmorton Worcestershire >>View Record Emma Alsop abt 1815 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Sister Birtsmorton Worcestershire View Record John Alsop abt 1824 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head Birtsmorton Worcestershire View Record John Alsop abt 1849 Birtsmorton, Worcestershire, England Son Birtsmorton Worcestershire View Record Julia Alsop abt 1843 Birtsmorton, Worcestershire, England Daughter Birtsmorton Worcestershire View Record William Alsop abt 1858 Birtsmorton, Worcestershire, England Son Birtsmorton Worcestershire address coomb green ------------------------ 1871 View Record Emma Alsop abt 1814 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head Castle Morton Worcestershire View Record John Alsop abt 1849 Birtsmorton, Worcestershire, England Son Castle Morton Worcestershire View Record William Alsop abt 1858 Birtsmorton, Worcestershire, England Son Castle Morton Worcestershire she is unmarried although she calls the boys sons. address Holly,Molly or Nolly Bed

Hello my little fellow insomniac (well, Im off to bed now actually). If you have a spare mo, can you check out a Rosina Harris born c1854 in Whitstable, Kent in the 1871/61 please? I can find her getting married 1874 in Stepney to a David Morely Foster and find the whole lot of them and the kids births in the 1881 in Limehouse but I have not seen one that fits completely for Rosina Harris prior to the 1881. God bless, good night and dont strain your eyes. My legs are aching like mad sitting here!