Genealogy Chat

But, I cab find no trace of her, even

Is seums my spilling is a littl of tonite

Matthew, i havent even look at yours yet, give me a moment... right 1881 Newport and her married. Elizabeth Smith abt 1853 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Wife 4 Barkers Buildings Camp St, Aston, Warwickshire, England Elizabeth Smith abt 1876 Aston, Warwickshire, England Daughter 4 Barkers Buildings Camp St, Aston, Warwickshire, England Ellen Smith abt 1880 Aston, Warwickshire, England Daughter 4 Barkers Buildings Camp St, Aston, Warwickshire, England Newport Smith abt 1848 Perry Barr, Staffordshire, England Head 4 Barkers Buildings Camp St, Aston, Warwickshire, England ------------------------------------------- do yopu have the cert for the marriage - do you know her fathers name , otherwise its pure speculation

Thanks Very much Jess. That is definatly them. Eliza's death was only a possibility as well. I can save money on ordering that cert now thanks. There daughter Eliza Jane married a Taylor . Thanks again Julie Just realized the wife you found was Mary not Eliza (I must start reading things properly first time lol). So maybe her death is correct after all. Either he had remarried to Mary or Eliza had a middle name Mary and decided to use that. Off to look at marriages now :-)

Not yet, I just saw your 'Find me something to do' message :) It does seem weird that if you do a search on Ancestry for 'Elizabeth Steyich' or 'Steyich' for that matter all that comes up is her marriage. Matthew Ps I love speculation :)

matthew - it suggests that it is a mistranscription, you need to get the cert and study what the writing looks like as well as her fathers name

Jess Re Cairns they were on 1861 Census but i have no addy Ruth wed andrew Henelly ibelieve in 1877 liverpool Ruth my G/Gran.

June- still cant find then even in 1861- were they mistranscribed ? do you have the RG ref for the please (will be RG9/..... Folio....page...)

Jess no ivery foolishly didnt take it down.Its ok its my fault.

June let me see if i can find the marriage and work from there . where did they live after they married do you know their childrens names (just to get a point of ref). ------------------------------------------------- rats, ancestry has just fallen over, caught the marriage thought just , 1877 in west derby! will see what i can find ------------------------------------------------------ good, got them in 1881 Andrew Henolly abt 1848 Ireland Head 32 Reading St, Kirkdale, Lancashire, England Andrew Henolly abt 1881 Lpool, Lancashire, England Son 32 Reading St, Kirkdale, Lancashire, England Bridget Henolly abt 1878 Lpool, Lancashire, England Daughter 32 Reading St, Kirkdale, Lancashire, England Ruth Henolly abt 1856 Manchester, Lancashire, England Wife 32 Reading St, Kirkdale, Lancashire, England

Jess are we talking Henellys or cairns .Henellys ihave its cairns i,m after! Thanks

June - i am trying to finds some facts on which to base a search. I have found out for myself that Ruth was born in manchester by looking her up in 1881 census. I have also found that she married in west derby NOT LIVERPOOL what else do you know about the family that you havent told me?

Jess, Re: Henry Honeyman No, there were no children from his marriage to Emily as far as I know. He later went on to marry my Grandmother. Thanks for trying Janet

Jess, Could you find place of residence of these 3 in Hertfordshire in 1871 please? (They are siblings, and all 3 may/may not be living together) Mary J Gooch c1850 born Yorkshire James A Goochc1854 born Norway John Gooch c1856 born Scotland Thanks for your time

JessRuth does not appear to be on 1891census son andrew born 1881 Bridget 1878 lived at Kew St and at 32 Reading St st Kirkdale,i think Ruth must have died or gone?

Jess i think i will have to send for Ruths and andrews wed Cert and then i can get her fathers addy from that..

Janet- think i have snared them all in one shot!! View Record Ada Gooch abt 1870 St Peter, Hertfordshire, England Daughter St Peter Hertfordshire Emily Gooch abt 1841 Boxley, Kent, England Wife St Peter Hertfordshire Emily L Gooch abt 1866 Putney, Surrey, England Daughter St Peter Hertfordshire James A Gooch abt 1854 Christania, Norway Son St Peter Hertfordshire John Gooch abt 1856 Jannetowa, Scotland Son St Peter Hertfordshire Laura Gooch abt 1868 Cliffe, Kent, England Daughter St Peter Hertfordshire Marie Gooch abt 1857 Mundesley, Norfolk, England Daughter St Peter Hertfordshire Mary J Gooch abt 1850 Yorkshire, England Daughter St Peter Hertfordshire Robt T Gooch abt 1824 Halvergate, Norfolk, England Head St Peter Hertfordshire their address is 'The Fiddle' Hatfield rd Robert the father is a contractor, and eldet son james a carpenter Ecclesiastical parish: Colney Heath St Mark Town: Sleap and Smallford County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Source information: RG10/1378 Folio 117 page 13 Registration district: St Albans Sub-registration district: St Albans Household schedule number: 63

Thanks a million, Jess, You're STAR****** Janet

Hi Jess Re: Albert Youlden 1881/1891/1901 Census. Sorry it's taken so long to get back to you, 3 days 3 birthdays, no not all mine. I agree that it does seem strange that both the 1901 and 1891 have the same misstranscription of the surname. There seems to be a few others, on the 1901 Agness would be 7yrs old but on the one i read she was 7wks old and the surname was spelt correctly. On the 1891 i was expecting his place of birth to be Plymouth but it says Worbber, had a quick look on various maps but couldn't find it but found a place called Wotter just a couple of miles outside Plymouth, possible ?, and the address is only a hop skip and a jump from the one on his marriage cert of 1892 so it looks as if you found the right one for me. I will have to find his birth details and send for the cert, this will confirm his mothers name. If you can could you please have another look on the 1881 Census. Thank you for all your help Best wishes Bren

Bren - without any additional info, it is pointless 'looking again' i looked under every possible permutation in the first place.