Genealogy Chat

Morning Pippa , well would go that route as well but there names just as bad Johnny ans Samual;; Thats it see common Johnsons;; Argggghhhhhhh Babs

I wondered what information you wanted from the cert. In the past I have ordered a siblings cert normally one with the most unusual forenames and born as near to a census as possible. Could this be the best route for you?

Nudging dont know where to look next Babs

Nudging to see if anyone can help pretty please;;; Babs

Up-date;; Peter thanks for finding theat out for me but alas have been onto Shadwell Reg. office and 1 had no father the other 3 none of there fathers was James;; O dear where do you go from here all it says on w/c is ; William Johnson age 23 father James Deceased;; Any ideas like looking for needle in haystack Babs

Thanks all going to bed now before all this blows mind;; night night Babs x

Babs Westbromwich is Staffordshire, I have phone number, and address for the registrar if you need it. They were very helpful when I called x

Have looked at the image of the 1891 place of birth is 'Stafford West Bromwich' Just order the certificates!! Pete

Yes Jeanette, I looked on there could not make out no`s but Pete has helped and now had printed out from Georgina on records board ; Thanks Babs

1837 link is to the GRO web site jeanette

Nudging for help in finding g.grandfathers place birth; is it West Brom, district Hafford ??? Babs

Pete thanks so very much ,, went onto site but could`nt find a phone no only e-mail addy;; will give them a ring this week;; Only hope he did give right place of birth on 1891 census lokks like Hafford Mid Bromwich;; Babs

Babs, I think that if you call then they will be very helpful. I have ordered a certificate from Sandwell rather than GRO when I didn't know the GRO number and it arrived PDQ. Their phone number is: Tel +44 (0)121 569 2481 If you tell then your predicament and tell them that you have a choice of 4 reference numbers but know the name of the father, I'm sure they'll advise how best to proceed. Good luck Pete

Thanks Helen, and Pete did you have to make it more awkward for me lol;; Pete do you know if you are able to phone them to order and get them to check fathers name or not ?? Babs

Hi, Did you know that the West Midlands BMD site has 4 William Johnson entries for 1854 West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1854 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference JOHNSON William Harborne Sandwell HAR/13/124 JOHNSON William Wednesbury Sandwell WED/20/116 JOHNSON William Wednesbury Sandwell WED/20/87 JOHNSON William West Bromwich North East Sandwell WBNE/22/156 The reference numbers are the local numbers for ordering certificiates. This may be useful if the GRO references are hard to read. Pete

I don't know about ordering from 1837. I always order direct from GRO: www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ nell

Helen is that with 1837;; Babs

You can order a cert specifying the father's name and it will only cost £3 if its not the right one. nell

Been on free bmd to try to get gro number for g.grandfather;; I will beat these Johnsons;; have been through 1837 site and got him in Oct-Dec quater 1854 but there is 3 there and no`s not that clear can anyone help, William Johnson his father was James;;;; ones I think are; 6 b 551 6 b 554? 6 b ?22 Babs ps If anyone can verify right one would be very grateful save me £14 and 2 useless B/C Could anyone ckeck the name on 1891 census for me ; William Johnson wife Mary sons William/Sam/John,, Ilkeston,Derbyshire. No found birth cert in Shadwell::