Genealogy Chat

WHERE DO I LOOK MY ANCESTER BORN 1891 IN DUBLIN CAME TO LIVE IN BIRMINGHAM WHERE CAN I FIND RECORDS ON HER/HOW MANY CHILDREN SHE HAD?/IF AND WHEN SHE GOT MARRIED?/WHEN DID SHE COME TO LIVE IN BIRMINGHAM.............

put their names down here perhaps some one will find them Jeanette but don't need to shout LOL

BORN 1891 DUBLIN CAME TO BIRMINGHAM TO LIVE NAME....ELLEN TOOMEY(MAIDEN NAME) COULD HAVE MARRIED A..............NULTY OR ................................................OSBORNE

Only negatives from me.....No Ellen Toomey's of the right age, born in Ireland, on the 1901 census.........and no Ellen Toomey's marrying a Nulty or an Osborne (any spelling) 1912 to 1920 inclusive in England or Wales. Merry

THANK YOU FOR TRYING MERRY JUST A COMPLETE M MISTRY WHAT I CANNOT UNDERSTAND IS HER BIRTH CERTIFICATE SAYS SHE WAS BORN IN 1891 IN DUBLIN BUT CANNOT FIND ANY TRACE

How do you know what you know about her? If you are working back from yourself, you must be descended from one of her children - who, and where and when was s/he born? nell

HELEN SHE IS MY HUSBANDS GRANMA I HAVE HER DEATH CERTIFICATE

Do you mean her DEATH cert says she was born in 1891 in Ireland?? (therefore may not be correct, just what the informant believed) Did she marry twice then??? If you can give more info on what you know (like who her children were and when/where they were born) we might be able to point you in the right direction........ Merry

Ann OK. So if she's your husband's grandmother, your husband's mum or dad must have been her child. Which, and what is the name and when/where they were born? nell

Have you thought of trying other spellings? Toomey sounds like an English version of the more correct and more Irish TWOMEY. Janet

yes helen she was my husbands dads mother his name was PATRICK NULTY and so was his fathers name PATRICK NULTY my husbands dad(PATRICK NULTY) was born in dublin but came to birmingham to live

yes merry her death certificate says she was born in dublin 1891 she had so i have been told 4 children my father in law being one of those children his name was PATRICK NULTY but when he was small had the surname OSBORNE I think to make life easy for his mother on her death certificate says she is a widow of william joseph osborne she died in birmingham 1969 i have got hold of my father in laws birth certificate and it says his mother name ELLEN NULTY TOOMEY

well JANET i am going on OSBORNE spelt this way because that is how it is spelt on her death certificate TOOMEY being her maiden name

Ann Irish people coming to England back in the 1840's+ wanted to fit into English society so there would be less chance of victimisation and so you will find much evidence of anglicising Irish names. In genealogy different spellings of names are the norm. Janet

Are you saying that Ellen was born Dublin 1891 and came to England, but that her son, Patrick Nulty, was born in Ireland?? Have you got Patrick Nulty's birth cert? Merry

yes merry her son was born in dublin 1920 thats what it says on his birth dublin register office sent me his birth certificate

Well, unless she had a child in this country I don't see how you can find when she arrived, as you would need an address here to search. Have you investigated whether she had other children born in Ireland? (I know from personal experience what the Irish GRO records are like!) If you think she had a child here (I mean Eng/Wales)I don't think it can be before Patrick as I looked on Family Relatives for any Toomey/Nulty or Osborne births earler on the thread. (though I haven't tried the other possible spellings of Toomey.) You would have to trawl the Eng/Wales GRO indexes for after 1920. Merry