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Can anyone help? I can’t find a family in the 1851 census, their names are James and Harriet Meager I have know idea where or when James was born but Harriet was born c1782 in christchurch, middx. In the 1861 census Harriet was living at Whitehorse Road,Croydon ,Surrey and she was a widow. Hope someone can help! Debbie

Not only can I not find James and/or Harriet on the 1851, I can't even find Harriet on 1861. I don't know where Christchurch, Middlesex is. nell

Is this her death: Meager, Harriet Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 90 Quarter: September Year: 1870 District: Croydon County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 125 nell

Is this lot anything to do with you: John Meagher abt 1789 Ireland Head St Marylebone Middlesex Harriet Meagher abt 1800 Marylebone Wife St Marylebone Middlesex James Meagher abt 1827 Marylebone Son St Marylebone Middlesex Frances Meagher abt 1830 Marylebone Daughter St Marylebone Middlesex Stephen Meagher abt 1839 Marylebone Son St Marylebone Middlesex John Meagher abt 1847 Marylebone Son St Marylebone Middlesex Source information: HO107/1491 Folio: 184 Page: 28 Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Civil parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiatical parish:* Christchurch County/Island: Middlesex Country: England *this is where you got Christchurch from? It's the parish within Marylebone, not a geographical place. nell

Hi Debbie, can't find them I'm afraid. I'm having the same problem with my family of Noble's, can't find them anywhere. Ria :)

Hi Nell The Meager's you found are not mine, most of mine were born and bread in Norwood/Croydon, Surrey, and as far as I can tell none came from Ireland. The reason why I'm looking for these Meager's is-I seem to have to many James Meager's!! so I am hoping that if this one is in the 1851 census I will find out where he came from and put him in the right place in my tree!! ( that's if he is my ancestor!) Deb

Thanks for trying Ria, Deb

Hi Lesley, I have those ones. William was the Innkeeper at the 'Swan and sugar loaf' and that pub is still there today!! (just a bit of not very useful information for you!) Debbie

Yes, but Christchurch in Southwark would be Surrey and I still think its a parish name as opposed to a place name. There are various towns/villages called Christchurch, but none in the London area as far as I'm aware. nell

Debbie It might help if you could find James' death cert. That would at least give an address when he died, and it would also have his age, so you could look for him more precisely. nell ps I know the Swan & Sugarloaf in Croydon, I used to go past it on the bus every day when I was a gel!

I've found her!!!!!!!!!!!! hold on, details coming

: Harriott Meager Age: 79 Estimated birth year: abt 1782 Relation: Head Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Christchurch, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Croydon Ecclesiatical parish: St James Town: Croydon County/Island: Surrey Country: England Source information: RG9/450 Registration district: Croydon Sub-registration district: Croydon ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Folio: 46 Page: 32 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 153

Hi Everyone, I think this could be a transcription error so I may need to go through all the pages one by one! I think there is about 15 enumeration districts in Croydon, each with about 50 pages so if I start now I might be finished by next Xmas. Debbie

She is living at 17 Osborn Place, Whitehorse Road with her daughter Mary Louisa Chapman. They are both widowed and have the same occupation, which I can't decipher. And she says very clearly she was born in Middx Christchurch, which has me intrigued. Can you access this or would you like me to send you the image? nell

Hi Nell I think that was the 61 census which I already have, it's the 51 I need. Yvonne the marriage you have is for a James Meager and Sarah Spoll. Debbie

Debbie As Harriet/ot and daughter are the last two entries on the page I checked the next image and at the top, address 17 Whitehorse road, is Freanie (Francis?} Chapman, grandson, 8, born somewhere illegible, and Sarah Ann Burns, lodger, unm, 27, looks like dress & mantle maker. Her birthplace similarly undecipherable. nell **!!!&!£$! I've just checked and it is 1861. Poo! I was feeling really pleased with myself.

Hi Yvonne Sorry for the delay, I was watching Shane on X facter!! I also have another James that died before 1851 so I was thinking that could be his death and the other one might still be alive. so if I can find him in this census I won't need the death cert. Also even if he is dead, Why can't I find Harriet? Deb

Hi Lesley I wonder if you can check if there was a harriet Meager in 1841, I don't have access to the 41 census or the name index. If Harriet and James was not there in 1841 then maybe they were not there in 1851, although their kids were born there they may have moved away for a few years. Deb