Genealogy Chat

Hi, I have found someone in the 1871 cencus (my G.Grandfather) the only problem is that there seems to be no sign of him in any other census. I know he was alive in 1904 as he got married and in 1935 when he was witness to his daughters death. I have tried all sorts of spellings and I just don't understand why I cant find him! Any advice/tips very much appreciated! Paul ----- --------------- UPDATED --------------- ------- Thanks for the help..i really didn't expect any! I have spent days (if not weeks) searching for him and the rest of the family without any joy. I haven't been doing this for long but am pretty confident that I have followed all the obvious routes. His birth certificate shows him as Stephen Edward Diwell and was born on 17 july 1870. In the 1871 census he is shown as Stephen Divall (note the different spelling) born 1870 Newington, Surrey. If anyone can find him it might just prove to my wife that this is not impossible! Best Regards, Paul

Paul who was he with on that census? try looking for them on the census years you may find that he is with them

Was he a seaman? Army? Try changing the order of the name, i.e. first name last, as there are sometimes transcription errors. It's a process of elimination, really. Search on the surname and narrow it down by using year of birth. Any possibles, check the original image, as the transcription might be very different from the original. He'll be there somewhere! Ian

Was he still in the same general area between thecensus date & when he got married. Have you his birth cert ,or his marriage cert as this will give you his dads name. If you have his birth cert then you will have parents name & i would try looking for them mistranscribed on the 1881 census first then on the 1901. you could try the address search on 1901 with the address from his marriage cert,he may still be a that address then. Shirley

of post the 1871 info on here perhaps we can find him Jeanette

Message now updated with more info. Regards, Paul

Divell, Stephen Edward Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1896 District: St Saviour Southwark County: London Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 191 (click to see others on page) did he marry twice? Langsdale, Alice Eliza Smith, Eliza

1871 for ref Record Charles Divall abt 1866 Newington, Surrey, England Son St Mary Newington London View Record Sarah Divall abt 1846 Lambeth, Surrey, England Wife St Mary Newington London View Record Stephen Divall abt 1848 Newington, Surrey, England Head St Mary Newington London View Record Stephen Divall abt 1870 Newington, Surrey, England Son St Mary Newington London

could this be him in 1901 with wife 51 Vienna Road head builder except birth place wrong Grrrr !!!! Dolan Divall abt 1899 London, England Daughter Bermondsey London View Record Eliza Divall abt 1876 London, England Wife Bermondsey London View Record Stephen Divall abt 1872 London, England Head Bermondsey London View Record Stephen Divall abt 1898 London, England Son Bermondsey London View Record William Divall abt 1899 London, England Son Bermondsey London

yes he was a widower when he married in 1904....I still don't understand what happened in the meantime. Regards, Paul

try again this could be fathers marriage Diwell, Stephen Edward Record Type: Marriages Quarter: September Year: 1868 District: Newington County: London Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 241 (click to see others on page trouble is no Sarah unless Boore, Mary Ann S prefered her other name to Mary Ann Hmmm Clutching at straws here I don't think other marriage or 1901 census is right i wont delete just incase

Diwell, Stephen Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 43 Quarter: December Year: 1889 District: St Saviour Southwark County: London Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 88 (click to see others on page) could be fathers death can't seem to find any of family after 1871

I see what you mean, now. What would you go with if you had this info? Paul

I think I would get fathers wedding cert but that would be £7 wasted if wrong. Its just wierd they seem to vanish after 1871 just thought on Stephen's birth cert what has it got for his mum's maiden name? bet its not Boore of if it is send for cert then you will get his fathers name and hers. Jeanette

Jeanette, The birth certificate does give the mother as Sarah Boore, if the marriage in 1868 turns out to show (something) boore do you think that is strong enough to go on? All your advice appreciated Paul

yes must be right then i would send for it then you will know his fathers name then you might find him on the 1851 census Jeanette

Thank you so much for your help jeanette, I will send for the marriage certificate and fingers crossed! Best regards, Paul

this could be her family but still down as Sarah not Marie Ann. still when you get cert you will find out father 1851 White house Yard Head a builder Emily Boore abt 1850 Lambeth, Surrey, England Daughter St Clement Danes Middlesex View Record Fanny Boore abt 1848 Lambeth, Surrey, England Daughter St Clement Danes Middlesex View Record Henry Boore abt 1823 Strafford, Suffolk, England Head St Clement Danes Middlesex View Record Infant Boore abt 1851 St Clement Danes, Middlesex, England St Clement Danes Middlesex View Record Jane Boore abt 1819 Lambeth, Surrey, England Wife St Clement Danes Middlesex View Record Jane Boore abt 1846 Lambeth, Surrey, England Daughter St Clement Danes Middlesex ===View Record Sarah Boore abt 1845 Lambeth, Surrey, England Daughter St Clement Danes Middlesex