Genealogy Chat

Hi Mary I had a great aunt who had pubs in Leicester when I was younger. I am going to have to ask my uncle for names as he did tell me he used to work for her but I hadn't thought of looking into that yet up to now, still trying to sort out who what when why for all my tree! Elaine

Thanks Elaine - I'd already looked at that site, which has been posted on here before. It's a good site, but unfortunately none of the pubs I've been looking for are on it! The site owner offers to find details of pubs and licensees, and I've already e-mailed him about another one, in Shropshire. I'm starting to find so many publicans in my tree that I may have to buy the book about licensed victuallers.

Hi Mike Thank you for the information re the Timsons Constance Road shop, my grandfather was Alfred his father and cousin were John and wife Elizabeth. The second shop could have been in Charny as we called it when kids, Charnwood street/road. It is nearly 50 years since I emigrated so my knowledge of Leicester not quite as clear as it was!! I had an idea that Charnwood was somewhere near Wharfe Street? Which I believe has been flattened and rebuilt. Are the houses in Constance Road still the old Victorian ones or has the area been renewed? Regards, Ken, Hunua, NZ.

Hi all Someone posted a link about pubs and brewries yesterday, here's a link to Leicester pubs he had catalogued with pics and some licencees names in the 1800's http://www.midlandspubs(.)co(.)uk/leicester/belgravegate.htm worth a look (remove brackets) Elaine

Thanks Mike, that'd be great if you have time. By the way, have you ever heard of the Lawyer's Arms pub in Lee Street? Some ancestors of mine apparently used to run it in about 1881.

Hi Everyone Thanks for your quick replies. I forgot the important thing the date, put it down to a senior moment!! Between 1900 and 1930. Mike I think that you have hit the spot with Constance Road I did not realise that it was on the corner with St Saviors. The photo that I have with no 10 next door appears to be 1916 as one of the signs out side talks about the second year of the war. Number 10 has the name Wesson's on the door and the words CASH, DRUG AND STRE cant see all of the lines could be additional words. Thanks Ken

Greeting's Again Mary.... For the moment I can only confirm what you already have found out But if you wish I'll take a look at the Parish Registers at Wigston next week whist I'm there Hope they will give more information on the Parents names ? . MIKE.

Greeting's Ken..... Can I help you .. I live six streets away from Constance Road ... Constance Road is four streets up on the Right hand side of St. Saviors Road from East Park road. It runs through to Gwendoline Road...... the shop will be at the St. Saviour's Road end... MIKE. UPDATED 20.00 Hrs. From Wrights Trade Directories 1916. CONSTANCE ROAD. ( St. Saviour's Road end ) No. 2, Timson. John & Alfred. New's Agents 1906 ~ 1911. CONSTANCE ROAD. No. 2. Alfred Timson. New's Agent. No. 8. was a Boot & Shoe Repairers Shop George Lowe.

Ken, depending on the dates you're interested in, you may find something in the trade directories for the period: http://www.historicaldirectories(.)org (remove brackets from link)

Hi Ken Any particular year? Will be back a little later though, got to start painting LOL Elaine

Hi All, Can anyone please help me, I am looking for the street /roads and street/road numbers of my grandparents shops. I believe that one was in Constance Road, another in Saint Saviours Road or Charnwood. They were known as Timsons and they were Newsagents, Stationers and Tobacconists. I have a photo of one shop with the shop next door showing no 10, so their shop would have been either 8 or 12 (very sharp this lad!!). Thanks Ken.

Hi Mike, I seem to remember you said you could do look-ups for St. George's Church, Leicester. If that includes christenings, could you check this one when you have time? James Ort Raymur Smith, born in the last quarter of 1852 according to BMD. IGI has transcribed him as James Octraganer Smith, christened 13 Feb 1853 at Saint George, Leicester, mother Mary Smith. No father mentioned, so presumably she was unmarried or widowed. The name is so unusual I assume he must be related to Ort Raymur Brewin and his nephew Thomas Ort-Raymur Mallett, but I can't see how he fits into the family.

Greeting's Again June .... Is this the one who's Mother Elizabeth gave us the run about following Thomas's ( Needle Maker ) Death ? Closest I can come up with via 1837 site is Jan. Feb. Mar. Qrt. 1847. Sarah Hopwell, Leicester. Cert No. XV. 139. (it's not on the FREE BMD site faded image.... but could make it out ) Hope this helps ? MIKE.

Mike For the sake of completeness this is the message I posted some time ago. Arthur Bradbury is causing me some problems. In fact I have double trouble as there are two of them. I want one of them to be the son of Samuel and Emma(nee Friswell) who were at 1 Harrison Road in 1901. I have two births and one marriage as follows: Births SQ 1884 7a 229 DQ1883 7a 206 Marriage (spouse Louisa Bramley) SQ 1906 7a 763 Mike had a look in some parish registers (sorry Mike - hadn't realised it would be such a herculean task) and suggested I should get the marriage certificate. I did and have now been able to establish that the Arthur Bradbury who married Louisa Bramley at St Mark's Church on September 29th 1906, was my great grandmother's brother. Of course if anyone else is browsing through this thread in pursuit of the Bradburys from 1 Harrison Road, I would be delighted to hear from them. Cheers Sheila

Hi Mary, Sorry I didn't get back you last night. Many thanks for the websites. I have found him and the shop. Once again thanks for your time in finding these it is much appreciated. Reagrds Joan

Hi Mike That would be a big help In 1851 in Newark Reuben Ward Head 41 Butcher and Fishmonger Born newark Elizabeth Ward wife 38 Born Newark Sarah J Ward Dau 15 Born Newark Emma Ward Dau 10 Born Newark Harriet Ward Dau 8 Born Newark Ann Ward Wife's sister 31 Born Newark George H 9mths Elizabeth Lister 17 Servant Born Collingham Found a Pigots List for 1830 and only Jonas is on that as fishmonger in Newark, no idea if Reuben is related but found this after a death cert of Jonas's dau had an Elizabeth from Newark as present at the death and narrowed it down to this one due to the sister who is with them and her age. Am hoping this long shot pans out as they are not in Newark 1841 Thanks Mike Elaine

So we're back to Plain .....M ' Duck then ? ..... Time permitting I'll have a look at that burial for Oct Qrt 1859 Barrow Upon Soar Cert No. 7 a 90. Isabella Heygate Barrow Upon Soar is the right District for Roecliffe Hall & Newtown Linford... Cheers M' Duck .... Still Walks back wards >>>>>>

I suspect we can rule out Isabella Heygate; someone of that name died in 1859, although the age isn't given; the death was registered in Barrow on Soar. If you'd like to have a look for Maud, that'd be great. Mind you don't trip over while you're backing out of my illustrious presence.

' You Rang M' Lady ? '...... May I have a look for you this week during my weekly visit to the Records Office ... I Hope I will find it under christenings St. Peter's Parish Belgrave ... Don't drop your standards M' Lady re Plastic cloth. Mike. ...Walks back wards >>>>>>>>>

Thanks a lot for the additional information, Mike. < curtsies > Cloth on table, huh? I suppose a plastic one won't do? Is there anywhere I can find out definitely who Maud Charlotte Maddocks' parents were, or am I stuck with buying her birth certificate? My sister lives locally - if I send her along to the records office to look up the things I can't find, is it easy to do? If I have to buy all the birth certificates I need to sort out queries, I'm soon going to go bankrupt.