Genealogy Chat

Brilliant, cheers for that.

Bethnal Green reg's are held by Tower Hamlets office. I am doubtful they will help as a lot of London offices are too busy to deal with family history enquiries! Anyway, try contacting: Bromley Public Hall, Bow Road, London, E3 3AA. Tel: 020 7364 7883 or 7364 7884. Fax: 020 7364 7885. You will need the sub district name, venue for the marriage, date, names etc. Merry

1874, Middlesex

Oh I know that!! Just a mo........ merry

what was the year of the entry and the name of the registration district? Merry

Yes I did get the certificate from the GRO. How do I go about contacting the relevant people, and what details will I have to give?

Did you get the cert from the GRO?? it has been known for the copy sent to them by the local reg office to contain differeng info from the original cert. Hubby got a GRO cert for a marriage....father of groom showed a middle name.......we worried....our father of groom only had one forename...........Phoned the local reg office and they looked at their copy....father of groom.....only the one forename. Only the GRO copy had the extra (incorrect) name!! Maybe you could check with the local reg office or the parish register copy.......?? It's far more likely just to be a mistake on the marriage day, but worth checking all the same............ Merry

Also one of the witnesses was an Edwards.

So the mystery 'Edward' was dead when his son married......... I presume Thomas Francis (or whatever you said!) WAS dead??? Suggest you just check there were no deaths for a Thomas C in the preceeding years before the marriage - just to put your mind at rest..............then accept the terrified bridegroom got mixed up, or the vicar was hard of hearing! - in those days if someone in authority made a mistake they were much less likely to be corrected than today!! Good Luck Merry

'Edward's' occupation is 'deceased'.

Yep that's her. I also have Francis Thomas' christening and the details of his and Edith's marriage. Someone tried to find another Joseph Comerford at that time, but there doesn't seem to be any, and also the spelling Cumberford dissappears after that. There are no Joseph Cumberfords in the censuses. The only Joseph that turns up consistently in right area, right age etc is that one with Thomas and Edith. This is why I'm reasoning that it is him and marriage cert was bit of a red herring.

Is this the mother of your Joseph, taken from the 1861 census? Edith Comerford abt 1816 Marylebone Wife St Giles without Cripplegate Middlesex Fits pretty well with this baptism: EDITH PARSLEY Birth: 27 AUG 1813 Christening: 27 MAR 1814 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England Parents: Father: JOSEPH PARSLEY Family Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. Merry

What is Edwards occupation on the marriage cert? I have found a Joseph, son of a Pilot! (no name to put to him though lol) Where are they in 1871?

Can anything be done with the mother's name to confirm all this?? Surely there can't be too many Edith Parsley's about?? Can her birth/baptism be established at the right time and place to fit with the details from the censuses for your Mrs Comerford?? Or did Mrs Comerford die early to escape the enumerator, or say she was born in outer space, or something?? Merry (LOVE your new name, by the way!)

Something doesn't add up with all that. Why would his father be down as Edward, if it is Thomas? Are you sure it's the right one? When was he born? Are they English, or Irish? Ahh, got em.... Thomas Comerford abt 1812 Aldgate, London, England Head St Giles without Cripplegate Middlesex Edith Comerford abt 1816 Marylebone Wife St Giles without Cripplegate Middlesex Edward Comerford abt 1846 St Leonard Foster, London, England Son St Giles without Cripplegate Middlesex Emma Comerford abt 1847 St Leonard Foster, London, England Daughter St Giles without Cripplegate Middlesex Joseph Comerford abt 1853 St Georges Borough Son St Giles without Cripplegate Middlesex Eliza Comerford abt 1855 St Georges Borough Daughter St Giles without Cripplegate Middlesex 1861.

The birth cert for Joseph, son of Francis Thomas, could well be for the same Joseph whose father is Thomas on the censuses because it could well be that Francis Thomas was known as Thomas so that is what he called himself on the censuses. But how do you know the Joseph whose father is Thomas is the one who married Catherine? Do Joseph and Catherine have any rellies with them on any census after their marriage to confirm if you have the right family for Joseph before the marriage? It is certainly possible that the marriage cert has the wrong father's name on it, especially if it is a copy of a copy, and / or if Joseph's father died or left the family when Joseph was very young, but you would ideally need some evidence such as rellies with them on the census, or family wills, to confirm if you have the right Joseph. (If the marriage cert you have is a copy of a copy, perhaps you can get a look at the original to check if the father's name is different on there?) Kate.

I have a Joseph Comerford who married Catherine Miller. Have marriage cert and it says his father is Edward. I know he had a brother Edward, but I suspected his father was really a Thomas Comerford - as that is what it is the way through the censuses. Someone then found a birth ref for a Joseph Cumberford whose birth cert someone has just received who is also looking into this line. It states on there that his mother and father are Francis Thomas Comerford and Edith Parsley. So fits, same area, same dates etc. How likely is it that this was just a mistranscription and it really is him although name of father on marriage cert is different.