Genealogy Chat

Any help please, I am trying to find the baptism records for my grandmother and her twin sister. They were born in June 1912 Broughton, Salford. May and Lily Bennett, parents John and Elizabeth. It has been said that Lily died along with her mother the day she was born. But we have proved this wrong, Elizabeth did not die till 1915. I need to find out what happened to Lily. We cant find a death certificate. All the other children made contact when they grow up, but no one knew about Lily. Could anyone tell me where to start looking for these records. Thanks Rhonda

It could well be that they were not baptised at all, or were baptised a long time after their births, but your best bet if you want to find a baptism record would have to be to go to the records office for that area and look through the records for each church you think they might have been baptised at. Unfortunately there is not much online for 20th century baptisms. Kate.

Rhonda, do you mean her birth certificate rather than baptism? If so you can check freebmd or 1837 or the new bmd on ancestry. Once you get the reference for the birth you can buy the birth certificate. But Im not sure that would help you find out 'what happened to her'.

Hi Heather, I have Lily's birth certificate. But they said she died the day she was born. But her birth was registered over a month after she was born and there is no death certificate. Rhonda

If her birth was registered over a month after her birth, then she couldn't have died on the day she was born, as her death would have had to be registered before she could be buried, and her death couldn't have been registered before her birth. Kath. x

So her birth was registered say July then? There is free access to bmd on ancestry at the moment. Have you already trawled that for her death? Id do it for you but Im up to my eyes in 'real' work here and hopeless at using the images for bmd.

do you have the birth certs if not the reference is district Salford Sept Quarter 1912 Lily ref 8D 97 May ref 8D 96 mothers maiden name Norket there is no death in the September or December quarter for Lily, maybe she could not afford or want to bring 2 babies up and had one adopted ???

Using your 1837 units Val? Just a thought but if the sister died aged 3, do you know how? Was it something both of them may have contracted like whooping cough? If so it may cut down the time frame to trawl.

yes Heather how did you guess, but looks like these were wasted

I assume that you have looked under differnent variations of spellingins for her name? Was there a middle name on the birth certificate? Sometimes people go by other names. Might be worth looking for all deaths of the same surname around that time. Actually let me have a sneaky peak - got me intrigued now.

Val, I am floundering hopelessly on the new ancestry one - I found 1837 hard enough. I was praying the new ancestry index would be name searchable like familyrellies. I see they werent registered til Sept quarter then. If I had a few units for familyrellies Id have a go at looking up this Lily or Lilian.

Thank you so much everyone, This means so much to me. I think that it might be possable that if Lily, was the weaker twin she could have died with the same illness has her mother TB. I have looked before but I could have missed something. Thanks again Rhonda

Think I may have found an answer - I searched for all death records in Salford in 1912 - There is a Lily Buckley who died age 0 - was registered in the last quarter of the year - there is no original transcript to check to see if the transcriber has put the wrong surname- the info incasr there is some kind person with 1837 membership to have a quick look for you is: Deaths Dec 1912 Buckley Lily 0 SALFORD 8D 176 Worth checking it out - could just be a transcription error.

Hi, on the ancestry 1837 index that is the entry on the image for Lily Buckley.

Hi, Would the parents names be on the death certificate, even if the child died in hospital. Rhonda

How are you viewing the original images on ancestry? I can only get the transribe.

me too

I just click on the quarter and get the image.

Perhaps you need to download a viewer? Or are you looking on the freebmd extracts rather than on the actual 1837-1983 index on there? Or am I confusing you or am I confused? No, I am getting the images the same as those we got on 1837. Dont know about original! What are you getting? I thought youd found your ref on a local bmd.

I'm now getting the same as you get on 1837 Thanks again everyone Rhonda