Genealogy Chat

Hi Jess Can you try your super sleuthing on these for me. I cannot find any of the 3 of them on the 1861 census and have speculated that they may have gone to Ireland before moving to Lincolnshire. Isabella Whiteside born 1854 Woolwich, I have everything on her from 1871 onwards. her mother is Margaret Oakes born 1827 (nee Wilson/Whiteside) married in Ireland in 1848 to William John Whiteside who died in 1858 in Dover, he was a soldier. Her place of birth varies on censuses from Ireland to Dover. Margaret then remarried in 1859 in Cheriton, Kent to. Samuel Oakes, born Haltham on Bain, Lincs abt 1820. I believe Samuel may also have been in the Royal Artillery. Margaret and Samuel moved to Haltham on Bain and had 3 children together starting in 1865. I have asked about Isabella on threads before but have recently come up with the additional information about her mothers 2nd marriage that might make a difference in the search. Veronica in Canada (Please allow for the 5 hour time difference)

Hi Jess ,Thanks for offer please could you find my Holland family in 1861 Looking for children of Robert Holland B 1828 Rickinghall Suffolk Wife MaryAnn B 1832 Botesdale Suffolk./ I have 1871+1881 census but wish to check for any other children .Many Thanks Tony.

Hi Jess,how are you? Looking for an 1891 look up if you can please, Lilly Louisa Chambers,born 1888 Lincoln Frederick Chambers born 1889 Lincoln Martha Chambers abt 1856 (mother) Lincolnshire George Chambers,father (date unknown)Lincolnshire? Not sure what George did, Have Martha ,Lilly and Frederick in 1901 as visitors in St Mary Le Wigford,Lincoln but no sign of George. Lilly certainly married,lived and died in the same parish. There is a Lilly Chambers of similiar age in Nth Scarle in 1891 with Lewry/Lewary as mother and single with 4 children,but that is a different Lilly. Don't panic for any speed,won't be back till the weekend. 1901 Ref RG13/3062 Lincoln Lincoln Home Folio 27 Page 46 Thanks very much Glen xxx

Judith That one is tough!! do you know mothers Maiden name? possible(no idea where Towyn is) Robt Hughes abt 1857 Llanegryn, Merionethshire, Wales Grandson Rhylcriw Merionethshire Elizabeth Jones abt 1800 Towyn, Merionethshire, Wales Head Rhylcriw Merionethshire >>Gwen Roberts abt 1852 Towyn, Merionethshire, Wales Granddaughter Rhylcriw Merionethshire John Roberts abt 1825 Towyn, Merionethshire, Wales Son Rhylcriw Merionethshire

John cant do that early, sorry. have a look on records board,someone there has a thread

judith, search under ROBERT and LEVEN as birthplace = Source information: RG13/4523 Registration district: Bridlington Sub-registration district: Bridlington ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 15 Page: 22 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 149 i'd guess it is him

hi all im pretty new to this family tree stuff but need help with tracing the gunns family tree all from norfolk area stoke holy cross in the dates 1821/1831/1841.been lucky to get hold of a few census but these are the ones i need to try to find my missing relatives as some figures i have dont just add up. im to a gunns and live in middlesbrough in the uk many thanks for anybodys help regards john gunns

Jess. Wow thank you so much..... yes she was Stentiford...my great aunt... on 1891 she is 10, and have been informed she was married 1897 aged 16... . At a loss now.. Thanks again....great appreciated. Pat

Jack, would have thought this to be the Uncle Ralph Emma Hardman abt 1861 Hanford, Staffordshire, England Wife Disley Cheshire Ralph Hardman abt 1855 Manchester, Lancashire, England Head Disley Cheshire

Jess, Thanks for doing that for me. I suspect that the younger 'Edwin' listed in 1901(born 1892 approx) is probably my Granddad 'Edward' born 1891. I assume that my great Grandma Mary Ann must have died between 1891 and 1901. My thinking on the Edward/Edwin confusion is that its unlikely that great Granddad would have sent Edward off to live with his uncle, while keeping Edwin (just 1 or 2 yrs younger) at home. Thanks again Jack

Pat She is 28 he is 27 and a railway porter (GWR) Grace is 2 the image is clear. she was Catherine Stentiford pre marriage - yes? Name: Stentiford, Catharine Louisa Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1897 District: Plympton St Mary County: Cornwall Devon Volume: 5b Page: 410

Thanks Jess Much appreciated David

this one Davo? (note the stepdaughter) Charlotte Haskey abt 1805 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Wife Edgbaston Warwickshire Samuel Taylor Haskey abt 1807 Tanworth, Warwickshire, England Head Edgbaston Warwickshire Caroline Hasley abt 1846 Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England Daughter Edgbaston Warwickshire Samuel T Hasley abt 1844 Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England Son Edgbaston Warwickshire Thomas Hasley abt 1839 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Edgbaston Warwickshire Charlotte Hollick abt 1838 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Stepdaughter Edgbaston Warwickshire

Jess. Are you able to see image of 1901 census Victor Tolchard 1874 with wife katherine and daughter. I think K is my rellie but it has her as b. 1873 and I have her as 1881 wonder if you could check. also his occuptaion Thanks Pat

Hi Jess. Can you find this one on the 1851 please? Caroline Hasley abt 1846 location relationship city Warwickshire Thaks for the offer David

jack obviously before edward was born, they show with a daughter in 1891 Edwin Hardman abt 1852 Manchester, Lancashire, England Head Pendleton Lancashire Emily Hardman abt 1878 Stalybridge, Lancashire, England Daughter Pendleton Lancashire Mary Ann Hardman abt 1859 Staffordshire, England Wife Pendleton Lancashire address 24 Harwood Rd. Edwin in a 'Beetler'- a dyer in the cotton industry Daughter Emily is a factory hand ----------------------------------------------------------- will see if i can find 1901 now maybe Edwin Hardman abt 1852 Manchester, Lancashire, England Head Salford Lancashire Edwin Hardman abt 1892 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Salford Lancashire

Jess, have just remembered the 1881 will show Daniel seniors birth place. Right, checked same and it was Haydock, Lancashire, so guess your first find is probably the one. Can you provide fuller details from that one when you get a chance? Pity he does not seem to have been with his parents, wonder if they were dead by then. I don't suppose there was an Ann Cook in the house too, or as a neighbour? He married her at the end of Census year.

I don't know what Ralph's wife was called, assuming he had one. I can ask my dad tomorrow, if he remembers his great-aunt's name. (After all, she would be a sort of alternate grandmother, I suppose)

jack- leave it with me, will look again in the morning. Did Ralph have wife? (emma maybe?)

Oops, forgot to ask if you could tell me who else was living at the same house as Edward Hardman on the 1901 census!