Genealogy Chat

LOL You're welcome! Merry

I hope your guests didnt get cold food on my account! :0) This really is brilliant. Thank you again. With your knowledge, dont think I will be able to, but if I can ever return the favour, just give me a shout.

And I had visitors for lunch lol!! Pour the wine.....go and do a look up.....pass the sprouts.......check freeBMD...........clear the table................open Family Search........etc LOL Merry

You have been an absolute star, I really dont know how to say thank you enough! It was driving me potty! Thank you SO much for spending the best part of a day helping me.

Oops forgot to say she was married, not widowed in 1881!! Sorry!! Merry

It's a good job they had the Miles inlaws living with them in 1901, as otherwise they would have been a mystery for ever! I really do think the Richard and Eliza are the right parents. Those places, Hoe-thingy and Wel-thingy are very small and to have two Alfred's, with the right dad's name born at the same time, but only one on each census seems too unlikely to accept!! Merry

I think I have madea breakthrough!! Richard was still alive in 1881 - was in the newbury union workhouse on the census, listed as a pauper!! This is starting to fit together a bit more now.

Didnt they realise when they were filling in the census returns 140 years ago, that I would be looking for them! LOL Why cant people use the same name all the way through life, and not keeping chopping and changing with middle names. This is so difficult - my brain hurts!

if they married in Church there's a great likelyhood the vicar didn't ask!! I have about 10 certs where father was dead but not mentioned as such and three where he was listed as dead but wasn't!! Merry

I am not too sure about the COX / COCKS families - on other marriage certificates that I have, if the father is deceased, they are listed as such on the cert. Not ruling it out though. Need all the help and options I can get!

WOW!!!! I have just come in from work, and was about to tel you that she was listed as MILLS, not MILES on 1881, and see that I need to study this and catch up. Witnesses at their wedding were: Charles Munday and Caroline Whiting. Married 2nd October 1897 Parish Church, Hungerford. Alfred listed as living at Salisbury Row (?), Hungerford, and Mary Switham (?) Breach, Hungerford. - Sorry the handwriting is a little dubious. Both fathers were Farm Labourers. Found Daisys birth cert out too - born 29th May 1904 at 4 Brighton Road. Parents Alfred John Cox and Mary Ann, formerly Miles. Alfred is A Tractor Engine Driver by this time.

Hi Orangeblossom......I don't know....I remember seeing this for Berkshire before, and I suppose it was on 1871 then too....ages ago. But the searching is wierd??? Merry

1861: Dorcas Cox abt 1860 Welford, Berkshire, England Daughter Welford Berkshire Eliza Cox abt 1836 Welford, Berkshire, England Wife Welford Berkshire Henry Cox abt 1856 Welford, Berkshire, England Son Welford Berkshire Richard Cox abt 1823 Shefford, Berkshire, England Head Welford Berkshire Thomas Cox abt 1858 Welford, Berkshire, England Son Welford Berkshire Merry

What have they done to 1871??? It looks wierd :(

HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I knew if I said they couldn't be found, I would find them!! LOL Eliza's hubby IS Richard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1871: Dorcas Cocks abt abt 1861 Welford, Berkshire, England Daughter Berkshire Eliza Cocks abt abt 1839 Welford, Berkshire, England Wife Berkshire George Cocks abt abt 1863 Welford, Berkshire, England Son Berkshire Henry Cocks abt abt 1856 Welford, Berkshire, England Son Berkshire James Cocks abt abt 1866 Welford, Berkshire, England Son Berkshire Mary J Cocks abt abt 1868 Welford, Berkshire, England Daughter Berkshire Richard Cocks abt abt 1824 Shefford, Berkshire, England Head Berkshire Sarah A Cocks abt abt 1870 Welford, Berkshire, England Daughter Berkshire Thomas Cocks abt abt 1859 Welford, Berkshire, England Son Berkshire Merry

I'm not having any luck finding Eliza Cox (widow in 1881 above) in 1871, when (by rights) her husband should be alive! Merry

1881: Eliza COX Head M Female 45 Welford, Berkshire, England Charwoman Dorcas COX Daur U Female 20 Welford, Berkshire, England George COX Son U Male 18 Welford, Berkshire, England Ag Lab Jane COX Daur U Female 15 Welford, Berkshire, England Ann COX Daur Female 12 Welford, Berkshire, England Scholar Frederic COX Son Male 8 Welford, Berkshire, England Scholar Alfred COX Son Male 6 Welford, Berkshire, England Scholar Merry

Alfred/Albert in 1891: Alfred Cox abt 1875 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Son Welford Berkshire Edith Cox abt 1883 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Granddaughter Welford Berkshire Elisa Cox abt 1837 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Head Welford Berkshire Elizebeth Cox abt 1886 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Granddaughter Welford Berkshire Frederick Cox abt 1870 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Son Welford Berkshire George Cox abt 1864 Halfway, Berkshire, England Son Welford Berkshire Rose Cox abt 1888 Hoe Benham, Berkshire, England Granddaughter Welford Berkshire Merry

I think you're right, Merry :) They're down as Mills in 1881. She is Gertrude Mary or Mary Gertrude I think.

and those bros and sisters in 1891 (which maybe you have already?) with parents William and Harriet, as you said: 1891 Alfred Miles abt 1886 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Son Hungerford Berkshire Alfred George Miles abt 1878 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Son Hungerford Berkshire Arthur Miles abt 1876 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Son Hungerford Berkshire Bertie Miles abt 1889 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Son Hungerford Berkshire Elisabeth Miles abt 1883 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Daughter Hungerford Berkshire George Mary Miles abt 1877 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Daughter Hungerford Berkshire Harriett Miles abt 1844 Tilshead, Wiltshire, England Wife Hungerford Berkshire Isabella Miles abt 1881 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Daughter Hungerford Berkshire William Miles abt 1851 Samhorne, Berkshire, England Head Hungerford Berkshire William Miles abt 1891 Hungerford, Berkshire, England Son Hungerford Berkshire Merry