Genealogy Chat

Hi Ian I am in the same boat as you spending a fortune on Scotlands People and cannot fimd anything of help Spent 39 credits last night and got no where would appreciate any tips you get. Helen

Can anyone do a lookup for Charles James Allbrook from 1881 onwards and tell me who he was living with in the 1891 census? Can anyone find a death cert. index for him too? Please,,, pwetty pwease.

Afternoon all. Could anyone with access to Ancestry do a search for: Charles James Allbrook from 1881 - 2006 My session ran out and I now can't see any of the basic information such as who else was living with him etc When I search I only find one census entry and two births in the BDM index. Can anyone find a death record anywhere?

Thanks for the tip Val but it doesn't look as though I'm as Scottish as I thought. :)

just to let you know 1851 has been put on to scotlandspeople now

I only have access to the free searches. I'm waiting for next weekend to get some more credits.

Found her Birth QE Sep 1881 Allbrook, Eliza Ellen, Chelsea, 1a, 315. and possible parents marriage from FreeBMD Marriages QE Mar 1881 ALLBROOK John Pancras 1b 205 WILLIAMS Maria Eliza Pancras 1b 205 Have you got ancestry access?

Ahhh I remember the census page where it says they were living at the rear. I have it somewhere. I'll just get the dinner on then come back and have a look.

I'm allegedly a mature student (not that mature if I spend the day skiving on here!). I'm a student nurse on placement at the moment, todays a day off. I think I found them in 1881 - must've been before Eliza was born - John ALLBROOK Head M Male 22 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Chimney Sweep Maria ALLBROOK Wife M Female 20 Islington, Middlesex, England James WATTS Lodger U Male 26 Labourer Bricklayers William LEWIS Lodger U Male 29 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Smith I haven't managed to find Eliza's birth yet but I'm not giving up that easily... living at 73 Cheyne Walk Cottage At Rear, London, Middlesex

I'm behind on my whole course because of Ancestry and GR. what subject and what needs doing?

Ian I'll make you a deal. I'll look for the Allbrooks if you'll do my latest essay for me ;) I was supposed to spend today doing it as it's due in next Friday but surprise, surprise I spent the day on here instead!

Oh god no, not the Smiths. I've managed to get 180+ names on the tree without a single Smith until now. You'll have to keep yourself busy on the Allbrook side of the tree now. I've heard there are no smiths in the Allbrook family until you get to the 12th century. ;) Thanks for all your help. EDIT: Well life calls so I have to get dinner ready for the kids. Why can't they be more self sufficient and let me carry on here.

LOL Ian :) Good on him is what I say! A possible marriage from FreeBMD Marriages Sep 1885 Smith Alice Holborn 1b 1120 YOUNG Henry William Holborn 1b 1120 Oh dear, I hate it when the Smiths turn up! Gonna leave you to search for her.

My great grandfather looks very interesting too. Marrying a woman half his age who's a year younger than his eldest daughter.

You might've already seen these 1891 Henry W Young, Head, M, 49, Flint Glassmaker, b St Georges, London Alice Young, Wife, M, 25, b Shadwell, London Annie Young, Dau, S, 26, ???? flower mounter, b St Lukes London Ruth Young, 16, Tailoress, b Clerkenwell, London Henry P Young, 10, Scholar, b Clerkenwell, London William C Young, 5, b Clerkenwell, London Edward ? Young, 2, b Clerkenwell, London Your grandfather sounds like a very interesting guy, especially the page being ripped out bit! I hope you manage to find out more about him.

These could be yours, but you'd need to double check with certs, etc: 1851 William Thomas Young, Head, M, 32, Glass Rutter(?), b St George, Southwark Sophia Young, Wife, M, 40, ????, b St George, Southwark Henry William Young, Son, 9, b Surrey, Newington Ann Elizabeth Young, Dau, 7, b Surrey, Newington Thomas Young, Son, 3, b St Saviours, Southwark living at Baldwins Gardens, St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex. Did I see in a previous post that you don't have unlimited acces to ancestry? If thats true, if you pm me your email address I can send you the images.

This is one of the mysteries. He died in 1973. His entire life was a mystery even when he was married to my grandma who died last year things were strange particularly during the war years. He was ten years older than he told her. When he died a letter in his handwriting was written stating something about the child not being his, but the name and signature at the bottom was different to his depsite the handwriting being the same. Unfortunatley a lot of the things like medals and the MBE certificate he apparently had were stolen a few years back when my grandma was fooled by a couple of guys scumbags and they robbed her. This is one reason why I want to find out more about him as even my grandma couldn't tell me much about him. And when I asked my great aunt recently what she knew she told me that when she questioned him about his family he was very rude and told her not to ask about them again. That and the fact his birth cert. was ripped out of the register in london when my mum went to get it just makes us even more curious as to what went on.

Ian Thanks for that, I'm just curious as to where Perth fits in. I actually live in Perth and so if it does crop up anywhere let me know and I could do a bit of digging up here. Is your granfather still alive? Or any of his siblings?

My mother gave me the details from my grandfathers birth certificate. The names and address of his parents. These details match with the address on this marriage cert. This has then given me their exact age when they got married and the fathers/witness' and their occupations. The glass cutter looks to be correct too although it still looks like plan cutter to me. :) Why couldnt' they fill these things in block capitals like our forms are filled in now-a-days.

Ian I take it Henry P young is your grandfather's dad? And you got his & Eliza Ellen's names from his birth certificate? I get very confused very easily and I need basics!! Btw, my told me her gran was from Scotland, I spent a small fortune on Scotlands People until I gave up. Instead I found her, born in Manchester, living in Manchster in 1901. Her mother had been Scottish, not her! It's so easy for family to try to help but just end up taking you down the route. Rachel