Genealogy Chat

Darleen,

Did you try and contact Ian, as was suggested above by Detective?

Also, could you remove your email address, as was also mentioned above.

Have you looked to see if others have your family in their trees on here, and then tried to make contact with them, instead of waiting for them to contact you?

I believe you are all talking about my ancestors. I even have a letter William Gill 1832 wrote to my Grandfather for his 18th birthday in 1901, and have a picture of him with Elizabeth Moore of 1832 his wife. I have all my information because my aunt of 1908 wrote everything down and handed it to my parents. The first son as far back as I can find was William Gill ( Gell) for apparently 7 generations according to my family and it ended with my Father in 1921 William Gill who is still alive at 92 and doing well. Look forward to hearing from any of you , Darleen Gill [email protected]

Just in case......(without the email address)......

Darleen Report 6 Apr 2014 04:37
I am searching my ancestors, William john Gill born 1832 in Castleton ( Gell) married Elizabeth Moore born in 1836 Douglas. Williams parents on his birth certificate was William Gell and Catharine. This sounds like the same family you were looking for. William Gill of 1832 had William Gill of 1958 of Castletown, who had William George Gill of Liverpool 1884, and he had my father William Gill 1921, Ontario Canada.

Darleen

If you leave your -email details on here, your posts are likely to be reported.

If you read the site guidelines, you will see that it is not permitted to post personal e-mails on the boards..................it isn't sensible, either. The boards are not secure, and not everyone who accesses them does so for honourable reasons

Welcome to the Boards Darleen.

As the last post on this thread was in 2006, Ian probably doesn't check it any more.

You could send him a personal message by clicking on his name. If he still has the same email address he registered with, GR will notify him that you are trying to make contact.

Hi, again. I just re- read all your notes above and I am definitely releated to the family above. My Aunt ( born Elizabeth Gill) did the family history back to William John Gell born 1832 by asking family members and getting the stories. Then I found a birth certificate on Ancestry for that William and his parents were William and Catharine . Then I found his siblings which were mentioned you the rest of you, Elizabeth in 1835,Henry in 1840 Edward in 18 42, and John 1847 . I even have a picture of Willam Gill 1832 ( first son of William & Catharine) with his wife Elizabeth Moore born 1836 in Douglas. .Apparently the first son was always William as the story goes It goes back 7 generations and my father is the 7th one.
Also some of them went to Liverpool. where John 1947 married Jane and he stayed there the last that I found information. I also have a list of his descendants for a few generations. it was on a different list from my aunt, so it took awhile to find out where his list came from. I have a web site with some things on it www.greatfamilytree.ca if you would like to look. I have not joined John's family to it yet, I have to find out how to put them together. They were mostly seaman as far as I can see. My great grandfather Willam Alfred Gill 1858's wife died (Bella Sophia Raddish) when my grandfather William George 1884 was only 7, also he had to leave Liverpool at 7 and go to live with his Grandfather Wm Gill 1832 on the Isle of Man. William 1858 was a sailor and could not raise him. When Wm. 1884 was 19 he left Isle of Man via Liverpool and came to Canada where we all live. ( near Toronto)

I am searching my ancestors, William john Gill born 1832 in Castleton ( Gell) married Elizabeth Moore born in 1836 Douglas. Williams parents on his birth certificate was William Gell and Catharine. This sounds like the same family you were looking for. William Gill of 1832 had William Gill of 1958 of Castletown, who had William George Gill of Liverpool 1884, and he had my father William Gill 1921, Ontario Canada. [email protected]

I am searching my ancestors, William john Gill born 1832 in Castleton ( Gell) married Elizabeth Moore born in 1836 Douglas. Williams parents on his birth certificate was William Gell and Catharine. This sounds like the same family you were looking for. William Gill of 1832 had William Gill of 1958 of Castletown, who had William George Gill of Liverpool 1884, and he had my father William Gill 1921, Ontario Canada. [email protected]

Merry, Sorry, since the wedding we've had an illness and death in the family so I've been helping with that. As I said before, all the information I have for the Gill side of the family is in this thread. I might, when it cools down a bit and I have got the funeral out of the way collate all the information together and start a new, easier to read through thread on here. Sorry for the delays between posts. Ian

Congratulations!! Cracking open a bottle of champagne as we speak! I hope they corrected the cert for you???? So, your dad doesn't remember his grandparents? (after all this time i have no idea why I was asking you that in my last post, but it sounds like a good question!!) Merry

Sorry for the delay Merry but I've been very, very, very busy. I seem to recall a wedding being involved at some point but the most important time was when I was signing a marriage certificate of my own for future generations. :) I also have added a mystery of my own too because the registrar has put the wrong initials on the certificate for me. So in a hundred years time when someone is looking for Mr I Gill they'll stumble across a Mr A Gill and get really confused. Mwahahahahahahaha Back on topic: All the information I have on the Gill side of the family is here I'm afraid and my dad can't remember much else.

Well.....I've read everything! It's a tricky business making the link back to before 1901. I woud say for some people it is the most difficult part of their tree they will ever undertake, as if you make an error at this stage it is critical to everything you will do in the future, plus it is something undertaken before most people have had much practice with research. I bet there are a lot of people tracing the wrong tree altogether because they have made assumptions to reach the 1901 census. Still, that doesn't have to be the case here!! You have the marriage certificate and there's a reasonable chance the ages given on that are correct. The bride is underage, so there seems no reason to lie, though I have a couple of certs where the bride has said she was 20, when she was either 18, in one case, or 19 in the other! Note that the marriage was in February, so it's likely they had not yet had their birthdays in that year yet...... You mentioned that your father could remember his Grandfather, John Thomas Gill. Can you quiz your dad as to what happened to his Gill grandparents? If they died after 1969 then their date and place of birth will appear on their death certificates. This info is provided by the informant at the death, so may not be correct, but having said that, of course many details were given correctly. So........do you know when they died? Merry

Merry, sorry just got back to my PC but will be checking most of the day if you have any more questions. To save you reading them all then you only need the extra information I posted yesterday on page three regarding the marriage of John Thomas Gill and Annie Hart. However the overall thread is about trying to tie the inscriptions on a grave stone with my ancestors so it started with tracing the ancestors but we didn't get very far so we tried going back from me but got no where until I received the marriage cert. So any help at all is most gratefully received? Thanks in advance. Ian

Right, here I am!!!!!! Ummmmmmmmm.....................To save me reading all 62 replies and trying to remember what this was all about..........Please can someone tell me, is there still anything to be done?? ! LOL Merry

Theres a marriage Mar 1891 for JOhn Thomas Gill in W Derby - but there's no matching Catharine. I'm going round in circles and it's all speculation so I'm gonna go take a rest and see what my head come sup with Z

okay guys I'm struggling with this - probably because I'm hot and tired. There doesn't look to be anyother likely John juniors in 1901 - none with a father called John and a on-par occupation. The John senior I found above in the 1901 census doesn't have any likely matches in the 1891 census born in Liverpool - there is one who's an engraver but that seems like a bit of a difference in jobs. If he wasn't born LIverpool then I'm stunped as there loads of John Gill's. If the family in 1901 is correct than youngest child Elizabeth was registered in West Derby district in Dec Q 1891 - which would lead one to assume parents were married at teh time of the census - or married shortly after - so I'm gonna start looking backwards from Dec 1891 for a marriage for JOhn Thomas senior. if anyone has a better idea do share Zoe

right - theres this family on 1901. the father is a Paint Grinder, but, given his age by th etime of the marriage and the fact I'd imagine grinding paint is quite strenuous it wouldn't surprise me that he had a change of occupation. 32 Lamb Street, Kirkdale Lancashire Catharine Gill abt 1866 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Elizabeth Gill abt 1891 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter James Ed Gill abt 1893 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son John Gill abt 1866 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head John Gill abt 1895 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Kirkdale Lancashire Joseph Gill abt 1900 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Mary Ellen Gill abt 1897 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Mary Ellen Dunn abt 1892 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Niece Still looking for other possibilities but I'll also trace these guys backwards in teh census Z

What job does Zoe do that keeps her out till nearly 8pm. Not very genes reunited friendly is it?

fab. girls.....alot of us can't help but we are still watching to see what happens. come on Ceasar....

Thanks everyone I knew I could count on you all. I'd have popped on earlier and said thanks but I had the dreaded chores to do. She's at weightwatchers now so I have a few minutes to log in. I've had no luck at all searching so you've helped a bit here already.