Genealogy Chat

Thanks for that tip a I didn't realise you could only put one name in!! Gut instinct does tell me that its her and yeah i think the reference checking is a good idea!! Thanks again for your help everyone!! xx

Hi Pink I think youve done a lot of hard work trying to pin her down and if your gut instinct tells you that is Queenie I would go ahead and order it....perhaps you could ask that they do a reference against the fathers or/and the mothers name just in case, that way you save yourself a few quid if it turns out not to be her. Suzanne

Just a quickie Diana - you may know but NEVER enter more than one first name in familyrelatives.org search - it will give you zilch results. I spent ages looking for people when I first started and getting zilch results - I mailed them and they said only enter one name - and it worked.

Kate.... that was my thinking..... I have these births in the right time frame - The ones with recorded next to them are Grandma's siblings and its only Queenie that I am not sure of as the others are FACT! So shall I order it and put myself out my misery? Hedge Ada Rebecca 1901 Recorded Hedge Albert F Gentry 1919 Recorded Hedge Constance Irene 1903 Recorded Hedge Edith Annie 1900 Recorded Hedge Herbert Walter 1906 Recorded Hedge Leonard Gentry 1915 Recorded Hedge Lilian Louisa 1904 Recorded Hedge Mabel E 1911 Hedge Maisie Gentry 1915 Recorded Hedge Marcus H 1911 Hedge Mary Cecilia 1909 QUEENIE???? Hedge Nellie Gentry 1912 Recorded Hedge Robert A Gentry 1914 Recorded Hedge William George 1908 Recorded Hedge Winifred May 1909 Recorded

Anyway, don't forget that the queen from 1910 onwards WAS a Mary (wife of George V), and they could have started calling the child Queenie when her namesake became queen! Kate.

Births from Sept 1/4 1911 - 1920 with fathers name Hedge and mothers name Gentry: No Surname Forename1 Forename2 Forename3 Mothers maiden name District Page No Event Quarter Year 1 Hedge Albert F Gentry Wandsworth.1d 1406 Birth 4 1919 2 Hedge Leonard Gentry Wandsworth.1d 1196 Birth 3 1915 3 Hedge Maisie Gentry Wandsworth.1d 1195 Birth 3 1915 4 Hedge Nellie Gentry Wandsworth.1d 1315 Birth 4 1912 5 Hedge Robert A Gentry Wandsworth.1d 1269 Birth 4 1914 Suzanne

The 1892 one doesn't look like yours either, if this was the parents marriage: Marriages Sep 1889 Colenutt Eliza Helen Sheppey 2a 1407 Hedge John William Sheppey 2a 1407

You may already have this: 1901 Census: Walter Gentry abt 1842 Colchester, Essex, England Head Wandsworth London Harriett Gentry abt 1851 Kensington, London, England Wife Wandsworth London Frank Gentry abt 1886 Redhill, Surrey, England Son Wandsworth London Louisa Gentry abt 1889 Kingston, Surrey, England Daughter Wandsworth London Ernest Lee abt 1880 Redhill, Surrey, England Stepson Wandsworth London Percy Lee abt 1882 Redhill, Surrey, England Stepson Wandsworth London Herbert Hedige abt 1876 Sarratt, Hertfordshire, England Visitor Wandsworth London Edith Hedige abt 1879 Reigate, Surrey, England Visitor Wandsworth London Edith Hedige abt 1900 Wandsworth, London, England Visitor Wandsworth London Suzanne

1898 Queenie: Process of elimination: Dont thnk this is your Queenie: Looks like these might be the parents? Marriages Sep 1896 Hedge George Sheppey 2a 1693 Underdown Bessie Sheppey 2a 1693 Suzanne

Hi Pink Of the two Queenie's birth I found these are them in 1901: Thomas Underdown abt 1830 Queenborough, Kent, England Head Queenborough Kent Elizabeth Underdown abt 1836 Queenborough, Kent, England Wife Queenborough Kent Augustus Underdown abt 1871 Queenborough, Kent, England Son Queenborough Kent Emily Underdown abt 1875 Eastry, Kent, England Daughter Queenborough Kent >>>Queenie Hedge abt 1898 Queenborough, Kent, England Granddaughter Queenborough Kent Agnes Taylor abt 1872 London, England Visitor Queenborough Kent AND: John W Hedge abt 1864 Sheerness, Kent, England Head Sheerness Kent Eliza H Hedge abt 1867 Sheerness, Kent, England Wife Sheerness Kent John T Hedge abt 1896 Sheerness, Kent, England Son Sheerness Kent Cyril J Hedge abt 1900 Sheerness, Kent, England Son Sheerness Kent >>>Queenie E H Hedge abt 1893 Sheerness, Kent, England Daughter Sheerness Kent Suzanne

The actual register entry only records the first names of a child. For the purposes of indexing, the surname was taken from the mother's surname. Therefore, if the mother was not married, and had told the truth at the time, Queenie would have been listed under her mother's surname in the index. However, if the parents had told porkies regarding their marital status, she could well have been listed under her father's surname (i.e. if the mother had given her name as ''Hedge formerly Gentry''). This would have been easier to do in a big city, less chance that the registrar would have known the truth!

I'm off to bed guys as middle of night here in UK but thank you so much for all your help!! xx

Absolutely nothing for Queenie Gentry in 10 years before the wedding and 10 years after. Is it possible fr her to have the fathers name even if not married..... they would have married 3 months after her birth!! xx

just checking that now!! Thanks xx

Diana - if she was born before her parents married, then most likely she would have been registered with her mother's maiden name. Have you checked that out? Richard

Naughty people!!! Suzanne

Oooh just realised why I couldn't find her...... she was born before her parents married!! :O) Grandma would be appalled if it is her especially as her mother was such a task master on marrying the right kind!! Too the degree that she wouldn't go to Grandma's wedding as she thought she was marrying beneath herself as Grandad was a Painter and Decorator!! :O)

Hi Found them on Ancestry FreeBMD? (Not Beta just normal search) Suzane

Blimey Suzanne where did you find those 2? FREEBMD showing nothing and Familyrelatives showing nothing either..... I'll look into these two as all other children were London born but Kent not that far from there!! Thanks xx

Two Queenie births: View Record Hedge, Queenie 1898 March Births Sheppey Kent View Record Hedge, Queenie Helen E 1892 September Births Sheppey Kent Suzanne