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hi, i'm just wondering whats the oldest person you have killed at world? i have just started to do my husbands side of the family and his grt grandfather WILLIAM RANCE died in 1917 aged 56 yrs . i have a death cert number for nottingham 4th qrt 1917. i was looking thought the war records for ww1 and came across william rance killed 2/12.1917 france. 2 questions 1. did men fight at this age??? 2. if they died in france ,would their cert be in nottingham??? rance is quite a rare name and the only william i can find in the 1901 cenus in nottingham is mine. any help please

Hi- Try these or look for Medal Cards on the NA online site. Bob Here are the results of your enquiry. There are 12 records which match your search criteria. Select a name to see more details No Surname Rank Service Date Of Death Age Regiment Nationality Grave/Memorial Ref. Cemetery/Memorial Name 1 RANCE, W Gunner 25690 12/12/1915 19 Royal Field Artillery United Kingdom IV. B. 20. LIJSSENTHOEK MILITARY CEMETERY 2 RANCE, WILLIAM Private 15746 18/11/1916 35 The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment) United Kingdom A. 64. STUMP ROAD CEMETERY, GRANDCOURT 3 RANCE, WILLIAM Gunner 19018 02/12/1917 Unknown Royal Field Artillery United Kingdom Panel 1. CAMBRAI MEMORIAL, LOUVERVAL 4 RANCE, WALTER Lance Corporal 265718 29/10/1918 30 The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment) United Kingdom Plot 4. Row A. Grave 14. TEZZE BRITISH CEMETERY 5 RANCE, WILLIAM CHARLES Rifleman S/10967 03/02/1916 Unknown Rifle Brigade United Kingdom Panel 46 - 48 and 50. YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL 6 RANCE, WILLIAM CHARLES Private G/20816 23/04/1917 22 Royal Fusiliers United Kingdom Sp. Mem. A. 10. CHILI TRENCH CEMETERY, GAVRELLE 7 RANCE, W G Private 19100 24/04/1918 Unknown Bedfordshire Regiment United Kingdom V. D. 8. CRUCIFIX CORNER CEMETERY, VILLERS-BRETONNEUX 8 RANCE, WILLIAM HUGGETT Petty Officer 175147 31/05/1916 41 Royal Navy United Kingdom 12. PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL 9 RANCE, WILLIAM JOHN Petty Officer 201566 22/09/1914 28 Royal Navy United Kingdom 1. CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL 10 RANCE, WILLIAM THEO Private 12564 21/08/1915 20 Hampshire Regiment United Kingdom Panel 125-134 or 223-226 228-229 & 328. HELLES MEMORIAL 11 RANCE, WILLIAM TOM Private 22689 20/05/1918 27 Royal Fusiliers United Kingdom IX. E. 12. YPRES RESERVOIR CEMETERY 12 RANCE, WALTER WILLIAM Corporal L/6651 16/05/1915 31 The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment) United Kingdom Panel 4 and 5. LE TOURET MEMORIAL Page 1 Home  |  Site Map  |  Contact Us  |  Useful Links  |  Debt of Honour  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms and Conditions  |  Credits

Hi- Try these or look for Medal Cards on the NA online site. Bob Here are the results of your enquiry. There are 12 records which match your search criteria. Select a name to see more details No Surname Rank Service Date Of Death Age Regiment Nationality Grave/Memorial Ref. Cemetery/Memorial Name 1 RANCE, W Gunner 25690 12/12/1915 19 Royal Field Artillery United Kingdom IV. B. 20. LIJSSENTHOEK MILITARY CEMETERY 2 RANCE, WILLIAM Private 15746 18/11/1916 35 The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment) United Kingdom A. 64. STUMP ROAD CEMETERY, GRANDCOURT 3 RANCE, WILLIAM Gunner 19018 02/12/1917 Unknown Royal Field Artillery United Kingdom Panel 1. CAMBRAI MEMORIAL, LOUVERVAL 4 RANCE, WALTER Lance Corporal 265718 29/10/1918 30 The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment) United Kingdom Plot 4. Row A. Grave 14. TEZZE BRITISH CEMETERY 5 RANCE, WILLIAM CHARLES Rifleman S/10967 03/02/1916 Unknown Rifle Brigade United Kingdom Panel 46 - 48 and 50. YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL 6 RANCE, WILLIAM CHARLES Private G/20816 23/04/1917 22 Royal Fusiliers United Kingdom Sp. Mem. A. 10. CHILI TRENCH CEMETERY, GAVRELLE 7 RANCE, W G Private 19100 24/04/1918 Unknown Bedfordshire Regiment United Kingdom V. D. 8. CRUCIFIX CORNER CEMETERY, VILLERS-BRETONNEUX 8 RANCE, WILLIAM HUGGETT Petty Officer 175147 31/05/1916 41 Royal Navy United Kingdom 12. PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL 9 RANCE, WILLIAM JOHN Petty Officer 201566 22/09/1914 28 Royal Navy United Kingdom 1. CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL 10 RANCE, WILLIAM THEO Private 12564 21/08/1915 20 Hampshire Regiment United Kingdom Panel 125-134 or 223-226 228-229 & 328. HELLES MEMORIAL 11 RANCE, WILLIAM TOM Private 22689 20/05/1918 27 Royal Fusiliers United Kingdom IX. E. 12. YPRES RESERVOIR CEMETERY 12 RANCE, WALTER WILLIAM Corporal L/6651 16/05/1915 31 The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment) United Kingdom Panel 4 and 5. LE TOURET MEMORIAL Page 1 Home  |  Site Map  |  Contact Us  |  Useful Links  |  Debt of Honour  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms and Conditions  |  Credits

hi, that's the record that's got me confused(the 3rd one), if fixs in all the right places(where he is from, dod ect) but would someone of the age of 54 yrs be at war??? and would his death be recorded in nottingham????

thankyou for taking the time to look for me

Claire Although 54 does seem rather old to be on active service, by 1917 we had lost so many men that they were taking anyone who could stand up. I think I would be slightly worried if it was my rellie. Are you sure he died on active service? Civilians still died of natural causes even though there was a War on. I don't know the answer to your query about the registration district. Olde Crone

hi, not sure if he died in active service or not not even sure if this is my man yet. all i know is that it states on war records for william rance that he is a commonwealth war dead and he was from nottingham. he has the same death date as my william, i am waiting for william death cert to arrive to find what it states on there and to see if this is the same one thankyou for your time

hi, on the CWGC page it has 10 william rances 7 have ages 3 unknown are RANCE, WILLIAM Gunner 19018 02/12/1917 Unknown Royal Field Artillery United Kingdom Panel 1. CAMBRAI MEMORIAL, LOUVERVAL RANCE, WILLIAM CHARLES Rifleman S/10967 03/02/1916 Unknown Rifle Brigade United Kingdom Panel 46 - 48 and 50. YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL RANCE, W G Private 19100 24/04/1918 Unknown Bedfordshire Regiment United Kingdom V. D. 8. CRUCIFIX CORNER CEMETERY, VILLERS-BRETONNEUX

hi, yes i have seen them. the one i was looking at is william rance gunner 2/12/1917 royal field artillert (this one is from nottingham)

how do you know this one was from nottingham? I can't see that. I would have thought he was a bit old to be fighting in a war, but I know my grandad lied about his age to join up (said he was older) am intrigued now

looked on 1837 first and put in name and nottingham and this came up, then looked on other site to find out where he died

I'm searching for my grandads brother amongst war dead, and just come across a man 54! so maybe william wasnt too old

can,t wait to get cert. his daughter( my husbands gran aged 93 yrs) is still alive and she was just 4 when he died, she knows nothing about him apart from his name. she has always wanted to know what and how he died and where he was buried. her mum never talked to the children about him come on gro send my cert(lol)

sorry to hijack your thread, but on 1837 did it have his place of death as nottingham? I'm trying without success to trace my grandads brother, my dad did tell me the names of the ships (he was on 2 that were torpeod) and I wrote them down, but where did I put that bit of paper??????

Hi Claire, My G-g grandfather was killed in action in WW1 he was 42yrs...(ive been informed this was quite old too) As old crone says they were probobally desperate due to the loss of younger men! Lib:))

no just where they lived , hope you find him

I'm sure I read somewhere max. age 45 for call up, but he could have lied about this age. Is there a local War memorial that would have this name on? Keith

I think it's most likely to be a coincidence. Obviously you will need to get the Nottingham death cert and when it comes, hopefully the information on it (such as who registered the death) will hopefully tell you whether it's the right cert or not. The chap who died in France would have a death cert too, but it would be indexed in the GRO Overseas, Army Deaths. HOWEVER........Mistakes DO happen. For instance, there were certainly men who survived WW1 who would take their friends to see their name on the local war memorial!! So, it is POSSIBLE your chap was badly injured in France and he was brought home, where he died. Meanwhile he was recorded as Missing Presumed Dead in France. Having said that, I think it far more likely your chap died of natural causes at home and the chap in France was someone else!! Merry