Genealogy Chat

Can we help with Florence Eliza? Maybe find her with her father on a census or something? Emma

Heather you have just cracked me up!!! Thank you jay. Good advice. xx : )

Marie, You are never really stuck until you've reached absolute stale mate with everybody on your extended tree. Put her aside for a bit - eventually new ideas about her will pop into your head, even if it's a question of eliminating a reference, that is still a step forward, if you see what I mean! Jay

Perhaps shes got a bit cocky knowing she is favourite, give the others some attention and let her gag to get back in your good books.

I will do that Heather. Thank you. My other great grandmother has sisters and brothers that are calling me too so I suppose I should let them have their say. Florence was my favourite rellie and I miss her!!! Does that sound silly? But she is driving me nuts so I will return her to her file for a while until she knows how to behave!!!!!!

Leave her and the Mowbrays - they will sort themselves out one day in the future, go and look at all the loose ends on your tree and work on some of those. I am amazed how many loose ends I had left - tons of people who poor sods didnt even have a date of death and lots of siblings who had no spouses listed. Have a go at finding that info which will give you confidence again before getting to grips with the stuff you are currently flummoxed by.

Thanks Heather. I had dumped poor old Florence, much as I love her and headed towards the Mowbrays!!!! Hence the wrong certificate. You are right though, I knew it wouldn't be easy and I was up for a challenge so I know deep down I won't stop as the buzz of finding a relative is unlike anything else. I can honestly say that in the main I have really enjoyed this but I just don't want to make a huge mistake so early in my tree and I've lost my nerve. The Florence whose birth certificate I have lived pretty much within streets of her future husband George in all the census's I have looked on. Do you think this would have a bearing though considering how common the name Florence was and that there were a fair few living in London at the time? Thanks again Heather xx Ps I am glad you gave that idiot a piece of your mind. What a cheek!!!!

I felt like this a couple of weeks back, felt I had dead ends all round and what more could I do. But it did pass, go back to your tree and go through every person on there that could have a birth, death or marriage cert which may help you and make a decision on which to buy. I am now getting info from all over the place and added a couple of distant cousins from GR just this week. If Florence is getting you down, dump her for a while and then go back to her. If the name of the dad is right on the cert and the job - what about the address where she is living when she marries? Can you tie that in to him in any way. AND what about this person who sent you info - have they given you proof THEY are right. As some of you know I had a real twerp this week with all my tree back to 1735 - he had just lifted it all from my home page. When I queried him he reckoned he was connected through my GGFx2's daughter - 'who married my GGF in 1850' - ERM, that girl was 6 months old in 1850! Turns out he hadnt bought one cert in his life ('I have tried to keep this hobby to zero expense, I have other interests') Well he certainly got my interest - I hope he is still smarting. So dont always think you are the one who has got it wrong. But leave that bit of the tree and go back and look at the other possible info you can glean and buy certs for or look up on census. It will pass and you will get more info and just the same old buzz back soon.

Actually it's not the Smiths who are the problem!!!!! I have posted this before but didn't resolve it. My problem is with the Herberts. I know I have Florence Eliza my Great Grandmother in 1901 with her husband George Charles Smith and two kids. That is definate. I know that I have her father as John Keylock Herbert. The name Keylock is known as a family name and it is on his birth details. What I can't connect is Florence Eliza 100% with father John Keylock Herbert pre marriage. I have a birth certificate which could be Florence Elizas and it states her father as John Herbert occupation cab driver which would fit as her marriage cert states fathers occupation as coachman. On her marriage certificate he has used full name John Keylock Herbert but not used middle name on her birth cert. (if it is her birth certificate) Someone sent me a gedcom with who I believed was my Florence Eliza on it but it was with a different set of parents (same first and surnames different places of birth dates of birth etc). Like I said I don't trust myself to carry on as I can't think of any other way to link them definately. The wrong certificate is just a case of have to have another go. The surname is Mowbray and this was the most likely one. Her father on wedding cert was Thomas Mowbray and on this certificate he was John so not looking likely to be my relative. Sorry to go on but I just feel a bit flattened. It's nice to know I am not alone. Thank you all for taking the time to help with your replies : ) xx Ps Tom you poor thing. I do feel for you.

I've just realised that a whole line of my tree appears to be wrong, at least i get the fun of doing it all over again! If i don;t laugh, i'll cry!

Marie If you've never ordered a wrong cert or followed the wrong branch through the census, then you aren't a serious genealogist! Remember, people who never make mistakes never make anything. Chin up! Nell

Hi Maria, Only your first wrong certificate?? Nothing wrong in getting a wrong certificate, there is a thread on here with loads of peoples wrong certificate's............see your not the only one!! I know I've had my fair share!! Don't give up.......you still new and as time goes on you'll get better at this. When you order a certificate if you know the fathers or mothers name you can request the name as a checking point so they don't send the wrong one, they charge 3 pounds for looking and you might be a little disappointed when they say it's not the right one but better that than a pile of wrong ones. And there's always that buzz you get when you find that ancestor that you've been looking for for the past two years...........you've lots to look forward to so keep going.

Hi Marie i'd guess that we all make mistakes from time to time and I don't envy you trying to research the name Smith! Would you like to tell us where you have gone wrong and perhaps someone will try to help. Heather

We all order the wrong certificate at some time. The first wrong one I ordered was actually the birth of a cousin of the person I really wanted. This cousin was 10 years older and I hadn't checked the date properly. I knew before it arrived that it was going to be the wrong one. Just go back to where you were with your research before you ordered this certificate and start from there. None of us is perfect. Kath. x

Marie Post a few details here, and I am sure a few kind souls will help you. You will find a renewed confidence if a brick wall or two is broken down. Good luck. Suzy

I have been doing this for a couple of months now and up until about a week ago I was going great guns. Now I have doubts about a family connection that I can't see a way of proving and I have just received my first wrong birth certificate. I am having a bit of a crisis of confidence. Has anyone else been in this position? I am still desperate to carry on but have lost confidence in myself.