Genealogy Chat

Merry you're a STAR. I couldn't find the Smiths on 1901 because on 1891 the children were just Daisy and Claude. Thank goodness 'my' Lily looks like being the niece of Caroline Harris and not A. Smith. I'll see what I can find re the new niece and/or Caroline then all I need to know is why my grandmother had moved to Bury (Lancs) by 1900!?! Thank again for the clue. Cath.

.........and she had a change of birthplace...........Yes, it is M on the original page :o(( Merry

Unfortunately, their Lily seems to have the middle initial M :o(( Henry J. HARRIS Head M Male 31 Barton Cab Driver Clara HARRIS Wife M Female 28 Thrup Charles J. HARRIS Son Male 8 Leighton, Buckingham, England Scholar Lilian M. HARRIS Daur Female 4 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar Minnie E. HARRIS Daur Female 2 Oxford, Oxford, England Mabel G. HARRIS Daur Female 7 m Oxford, England James WILKINSON Lodger U Male 35 Oxford, England College Servant checking the image though....... Merry

Here's the second niece in 1891: Clara Harris abt 1851 Thrupp, Oxfordshire, England Wife St Clement Oxfordshire Gertrude C Harris abt 1882 Oxford, Oxfordshire, England Daughter St Clement Oxfordshire Henry J Harris abt 1850 Headington, Oxfordshire, England Head St Clement Oxfordshire London H Harris abt 1889 Oxford, Oxfordshire, England Son St Clement Oxfordshire Mabel G Harris abt 1881 Oxford, Oxfordshire, England Daughter St Clement Oxfordshire Minnie E Harris abt 1879 Oxford, Oxfordshire, England Daughter St Clement Oxfordshire Sidney J Harris abt 1887 Oxford, Oxfordshire, England Son St Clement Oxfordshire Walter H Harris abt 1884 Oxford, Oxfordshire, England Son St Clement Oxfordshire Merry

Here's the Smith family in 1901. Who's the new niece, I wonder???? 1901 Gertrude Clara Harris abt 1883 Oxfordshire, England Niece St Marylebone London Caroline Smith abt 1853 Oxfordshire, England Head St Marylebone London Kathleen Daisy Smith abt 1886 Blenheim, Oxfordshire, England Daughter St Marylebone London Orchibald Claude Smith abt 1889 Marylebone, London, England Son St Marylebone London Merry

Donna, sorry, forgot to say Lily's mother was Emily Jane Harris. Merry - yes, that's the one. Ed - had a quick look but can't find any of them in 1901 or 1881 but then again he was called Arthur Smith and just came from Yorkshire! Thank you Cath.

Is the Oxford workhouse in the parish of St Clements, Oxford? Merry

Hi Have you tried this one in 1881 RG11/1520 FOLIO 118 PAGE 16 CHARLES B HARRIS head 1847 ELIZA HARRIS wife 1847 ETHEL A HARRIS daughter 1877 LILIAN A HARRIS daughter 1879 RUTH M HARRIS daughter 1880 CHAPEL LANE GT ROLLRIGHT OXFORDSHIRE DONNA SORRY WAS A BIT PREMATURE THIS ONE HAS THE NAME ALICE AS THE A IN 1891 SO NOT YOUR LILIAN AUGUSTA

I've been looking for my grandmother for years. On the 1901 she says she was born in Oxford c1875. On her children's birth certs. (no marriage cert. has been found) she gives her maiden name as LILIAN Augusta Harris. The only person I can find who (almost) matches is an illegitimate child born in the Oxford workhouse in 1874 by the name of LILY Augusta Wall Harris. No one can find any trace of her in 1881 but in 1891a kind person has found LILLEY Harris, born Oxford, age 15yrs and living in St Pancras as the niece with a family of Smiths !! I paid the Oxford records office to search their poor law and baptism records and they appear to have been very thorough but can find no trace of her. Is this the end of the line ?Should I just presume, as everything seems to fit, that this little girl was in fact my grandmother and I'll never know anything else about her. Any ideas - Cath.