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The mystery ...what was Matilda's maiden name? 1871 I find Matilda with John Poole and three Poole kids (one being Emma Poole) also..... two step sons. Chas and Able Horton. Sent for Hortons birth certs. Both boys parents are...George Horton and Matilda nee Powell. Searched and found marriage of Matilda Powell and George Horton 1856 a witness is a David Wilkinson (remember this name for later) The plot thickens... 1881 Matilda now a widow but no Horton step sons. This isn't a problem as they would have been 22 and 24. 1882 Matilda marrys John Horton! Brides fathers name 'James Parkes' (deceased) One of the witnesses to the marriage was Emma Poole (my great grandma) So this is definatly my Matilda! They had one daughter and named her Matilda Emma. Then!..... I was looking for David Wilkinson (remember him?) and found this in 1881... Household:1881 Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability David WILKINSON Head M Male 48 Willenhall, Stafford, England Keysmith Ann WILKINSON Wife M Female 46 Willenhall, Stafford, England Joseph PEARSON Lodger W Male 78 Willenhall, Stafford, England Locksmith Samuel WILKINSON Lodger W Male 78 Willenhall, Stafford, England Keysmith Charles WILKINSON Son U Male 31 Willenhall, Stafford, England Keysmith Richard HORTON Lodger W Male 72 Willenhall, Stafford, England Keysmith John HORTON Lodger U Male 30 Willenhall, Stafford, England Keysmith George Hortons father was Richard Horton so I think george and John were brothers! (correct ages) This all ties up so neatly but WHAT THE HELL WAS HER FLIPPIN MAIDEN NAME?!!Parkes or Powell? Cannot find any of the Poole childrens births! or a Poole marriage! Have even looked for John Pooles death and NILCH! All three guys were key smiths. I dont think anyone can give me the answer but it helps to write it down and share it. ...and you thought you had a brick wall!! :-((( OK! off loaded now...thanks for listening :-)) I think it's time to put Matilda in her folder and let her rest........for now! I keep saying this but find myself going back to her again .....and again! lol Gerri x

Well, Poole and Powell are obviously the same name...does that help? Olde Crone

Already thought of that Olde Crone Poole and Powell (with a strong brum accent) Pooowell! but it's the wrong way round! timewise. :-((

did they all live in staffs area? All 3 being key smiths is no surprise, Willenhall used to have a HUGE lock industry if she was with John poole in 81 but then marries again in 82 are we to assume that John poole died?

Yes Linda...to all...matilda was born Wednesbury c 1837 and married John Horton in Willenhall. Married george in Walsall.

Gerri, Isn't she a widow in 1881? Heather

What I think I need is the Poole childrens births... John Poole son.c1859. key filer Emma Poole. c1867 Sarah a Poole. c1869 Mary j Poole. c1880. All born short heath Walsall I cant find em anywhere!

I think her maiden name was Powell. On the 1871 census Matilda's birthplace is given as Wednesbury, so I did a search of the 1851 census just using Matilda's first name and putting Wednesbury in the keywords box. There was no Matilda Poole, but there was this:- Able Fletcher abt 1791 Willenhall, Staffordshire, England Head Willenhall Staffordshire Mary Fletcher abt 1791 Bam Thelers, Staffordshire, England Wife Willenhall Staffordshire Joseph Person abt 1837 Atherstone, Staffordshire, England Apprentice Willenhall Staffordshire >>>Matilda Powell abt 1838 Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Niece Willenhall Staffordshire Will Veale abt 1832 Shareshill, Staffordshire, England Apprentice Willenhall Staffordshire Thos Vichers abt 1834 Shareshill, Staffordshire, England Apprentice Willenhall Staffordshire As your Matilda had a son called Able, he could have been named after this uncle that Matilda Powell is living with. Kath. x

Oops yes your right Heather...sorry will amend it....

Yes kath I already have that. Either young Abel or chas (cant remember which one right now) was also lodging with his great Uncle later on too! What a flippin muddle!

Thanks for your time girls :-)) I think I'll start another thread asking for help looking for birth of Poole kids or marriage of matilda and john Poole or even the death of John Poole. Flippin woman!! Gggrrr Love her really lol Gerri x

Perhaps James Parkes was her step-father or perhaps her real father but parents didn't marry.... Heather

I've had a look for John Poole's death but can't see anything, will have a look for the poole kids nowadays short heath is in willenhall so might come under Wolverhampton rather than Walsall. Just a thought

Linda everything I have on her so far has been reg. district...'Wolverhampton'

Emma Pool Walsall March 1868 6b 637

I'm looking for a Horton(widow)/Poole marriage.... nothing turned up yet :-( if only my grandfather knew all this!!! he would turn in his grave!.....lol

don't get too excited but Name: Sarah Ann Poole Year of Registration: 1870 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Penkridge County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 431 Penkridge is close to wolverhampton, know it's a long shot but these people are bugging me now, want to find them! Name: Mary Poole Year of Registration: 1882 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Wolverhampton County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands Volume: 6b Page: 547 about all I could find :(

Try Staffordshire BMD, using Soundex: http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/

OMG! wheres the plastic?..... Mr Postie! you better get your running shoes on hun! Thanks girls ...:-)) I'll order certs and put the outcome on here when they arrive... :-)))