Genealogy Chat

Belated Birthday Greetings Mike!! How many candles should we put on the cake??!! LOL (Only 66 days to go!!!!!)

Thanks Mike, that's really kind of you. The birth should be in Rothley parish - at least according to all the censuses he was born in Rothley. But if you can't find it immediately, don't waste too much time on it - I shall be in Leicester this summer, and I was planning on a trip to Wigston.

Greeting's Again Mary..... I'll have a look for you this week and get back to you..... I'll start with Rothley Parish 1st. Then if unsuccessful I'll widen my search But it may take a while.... Barrow Upon Soar District was a very Big District there is over Forty One Parishes to this District. MIKE. xx

Hi Mike, Can I bother you again? I'm at a dead end with William North, and not sure where to look next. Would you have time to check out this birth which you found to see who the parents are? Jan.~ Feb.~ Mar. Qrt. 1858. William North. Barrow - Upon - Soar. Cert No. 7 a. 147. Thanks a lot, Mary

Hi Mike, Yes its the same family as before (good memory), it turned out that the children were all baptised at St Andrews, Kegworth after all!! Janes husband my 2xGGf was at Castle Donnington with youngest child Phillip for 1841, no sign of Jane, his wife. As she vanished for the census,('41, '51, '61) I thought she may have died as a result of childbirth Regards, Ralph

Mike Just popped in here to see if there is any of my names and noticed it is your birthday so my very best wishes that's 2 pints when you get to Lincolnshire now.Oh and a meat pie lunch thrown in. Sue........x

Greeting’s Ralph….. ALL the Pym Burials Kegworth….. I have on disk Names. / Dates./ Ages. PYM JOSEPH 19 JAN 1840 INF PYM JOHN 29 OCT 1840 INF PYM WILLIAM 18 APR 1887 35 Lockington different spelling though…. LOCKINGTON & HEMINGTON PIMM MARGARET 03 JUL 1831 76 ABODE KEGWORTH Measham PIMM ANN 5 APR 1816 61 PIMM R. 13 DEC 1834 2MTHS PIMM JOHN 24 JAN 1835 88 PIMM RICHARD 14 FEB 1841 68 PIMM MARY 18 SEP 1844 70 Using the GRO site Jul 1837 ( When records started ) ~ 1842.…. Closest :- Jul. ~ Aug. ~ Sept Qrt. 1840. JANE PYM. Melton Mowbray. Cert No. XV 138. Jan. Qrt. 1839. Thomas Pym. Barrow - Upon - Soar. XV. 24. Jan. Qrt. 1840. Joseph Pym. Shardlow.( very close to Kegworth ) XIX 469. Oct. Qrt. 1840. John Pym. Shardlow. XV. 394. ( Looks like Shardlow might have changed to Leicestershire for a while.... Ref ....XV not XIX as in Jan Qrt ) We’ll see what I can come up with at Wigston Oh……… was this the Nonconformist Family We were looking at before ? MIKE.

Hello Mike, I wonder if I can prevail on your good self once again, when you are next at wigston, is it possible to look up the deaths/burials for Kegworth. Yes its Jane Pym again !! last child Phillip born 1833 Kegworth, then Jane just vanishes, I wonder if she died as a result of childbirth, between 1833 and 1841, Many thanks, Regards, Ralph

Hi Mary Was trying to remember the pubs name and yes that's the road. Elaine HAPPY BIRTHDAY MIKE

Happy Birthday Mike Bevxx

Happy birthday, Mike! I remember that crossroads well - I went through it on the bus on the way to school twice a day for 7 years!

Elaine ... Did you mean the cross roads on the A 6 ? the A46 is the Six Hills Truck Road .... One of my Cousins ( Jim Owen ) worked or managed the Garage on this cross roads opposite .... ' The Red Lion Inn. ' MIKE.xxx.... ( Todays Birthday boy )

Hi Mary Got the Leicester Villages site, have not looked into the Pauls really but my aunty said she was at their farm in Rothley and it is where she ended up with TB because she had drank the fresh milk produced on the farm. My great aunt did retire there in a house just down from the crossroads as you came into Rothley off the A46, her name was Doris Lyner and her sister Nora, who married a Paul lived with her along with Doris's husband. I used to visit every week, wonderful memories Elaine

No, never heard that surname, although I grew up in Birstall and went to school in Quorn, so a lot of the surnames on the Rothley births site are familiar to me. Have you tried this Rothley site? http://www.leicestershirevillages(.)com/rothley/17920.html (remove brackets)

Whoops Mary, Found the site from a mailing list the other day and popped on here, have you by any chance come across the surname PAUL whilst looking into Rothley? Elaine

Thanks Elaine, I already had that page - in fact I posted the address of the Rothley births further upthread. Unfortunately they're all pre-1837, whereas my current problem is post.

Mary Just wondered if this site was any good to you http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb(.)com/~blanchec/EMidBaps.htm If you scroll down the homepage you will find the Leicester references Elaine

OK, I've now looked at the Ancestry complete index for 1858. I think we can discount the birth in Melton, because a William North died in Melton in the second quarter. That leaves the birth registered in Barrow in the first quarter as a possibility. Can you check out that birth and the one registered in Barrow in the last quarter of 1856 to see who the parents were? Thanks for all your help!

Hi Mike, The William North born c1854 doesn't have the middle name Wood as far as I know - only his father, born 1830, was William Wood North. I hadn't looked at births as late as 1858 because William's shown as being 6 years old on the 1861 census, and I thought it was unlikely that a 3-year-old child could be mistaken for a 6-year-old. I did wonder why William Wood North and Mary Screaton got married in Leicester instead of Rothley, and a pregnancy might be one answer. I assume the 1837 site contains the same BMR details as Ancestry? I got the birth entries I listed in my earlier message from the Ancestry beta index, because none of the Barrow births for that period seem to be on FreeBMD, although the deaths are. By the way, it's interesting that William Wood gave his address as Brunswick Street, Leicester when he got married - I think that must be where he had his butcher's shop. There's a William North, butcher listed at 55 Brunswick Street in the 1887-8 trade directory, and William junior was living there with his family by the time of the 1891 census.

Greeting's again Mary..... Getting back to your original question re :- birth for a William ( Wood ) North 1854 + - ( Gr Gr Grandfather ) Using the 1837 site have you explored these ? Jan.~ Feb.~ Mar. Qrt. 1858. William North. Barrow - Upon - Soar. Cert No. 7 a. 147. (So the above only puts his age out by 2 for his marriage 1879 ) Also might answer why his parents married in Leicester Feb. 58. by Licence ? Rothley Baptist Minister not wanting to marry her ' with child ' ? Apr.~ May. ~ Jun 1858. William North. Melton Mowbray. Cert. No. 7 a. 211 or 24 ( not too clear ) I see that the FREE BMD is not complete for this year. MIKE. Re Elizabeth Sharp I read it that she came from SOUTH Mountsorrel.. which puts it close to wards Rothley .....