Genealogy Chat

Greeting’s again Tom…… Coleorton …Ummmmm a bit spread out….. Coleorton Moor. Farm Town. Peggs Green. Burials in your names found for Coleorton :- Names./ Dates./ Ages. / Notes. :- Ayre Robert 13 Jun 1820 82 Abode Thringstone Ayre Mary 16 Mar 1824 85 Abode Thringstone Ayre Thresser -- --- 1828 2 Wks Abode Moor Ayre Ann 20 Nov 1839 90 Ayre Robt Wilson 13 Jul 1847 64 Abode Thringstone Ayre Thomas 9 Jun 1848 74 Abode Farm Town Ayre Thomas Kidger 16 Aug 1855 41 Abode Thringstone Ayre Ann 24 Apr 1861 83 Abode Farm Town Ayre John Greasley 4 Jul 1863 57 Abode Farm Town Ayre Elizabeth 25 Nov 1874 7 Days Abode Farm Town Ayre Ruth 25 Oct 1880 1 Abode Farm Town Davenport John Ayre Stinson 2 Jan 1844 1 Abode Moor Davenport Sarah Ann 18 Nov 1860 57 Abode Moor Davenport John 16 Aug 1880 69 Abode By The Fish Pond Coleorton NO KNOTT’s found in Coleorton Stinson Joseph 21 Apr 1816 68 Stinson Elizabeth 18 Jan 1822 74 Abode Moor Stinson Richourd 6 Sep 1825 80 Abode Moor Stinson Rebecca 29 Jan 1829 83 Abode Moor Stinson Elizabeth 16 Apr 1829 10 Abode Moor Stinson William Parker 5 Oct 1829 3mths Abode Lount Stinson Thomas Ayre 16 Mar 1832 16 Abode Moor Stinson Caterine 29 Jun 1832 18 Abode Moor Stinson Thomas 20 Sep 1833 51 Abode Moor Stinson Stephes 14 Apr 1835 68 Abode Moor Stinson Hannah 23 Oct 1836 68 Abode Hospital Stinson Thomas 5 Oct 1837 20 Abode Fish Ponds Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Ayre John 8 Dec 1826 55 Davenport Mary 1 Aug 1821 21 Davenport Elizabeth 26 Dec 1823 82 Davenport Jane 3 Oct 1827 2yrs 11mths Davenport John 29 Sep 1830 20 Davenport Mary 6 May 1834 94 Davenport Catherine 16 Aug 1835 60 Davenport Elizabeth 18 Jul 1838 18 Davenport Elizabeth 23 Jul 1843 50 Davenport William 29 May 1845 66 Davenport William 12 Mar 1846 38 Davenport Henry 29 Mar 1847 21 Davenport Joseph 24 Nov 1853 40 Davenport James 27 Mar 1856 80 Davenport Thomas -- Nov 1856 72 Davenport Eleanor 24 Nov 1858 78 Davenport Arthur 4 Jan 1859 11mths Davenport Arthur John 7 Sep 1859 15mths Davenport Kate Emmeline 29 Oct 1863 2 Davenport John 21 Jul 1864 83 Davenport Elizabeth 5 Jul 1865 42 Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Knot John 29 Apr 1823 9mths Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Knot Bridget 2 Mar 1825 71 Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Knott Thomas 28 Apr 1833 4 Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Knott Hannah 17 Aug 1836 27 Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Knott Mark 2 Feb 1844 18mths Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Knott Anne 8 Jul 1849 68 Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Knott Charlotte 27 May 1855 80 Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Knott John 3 Dec 1855 39 Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Stinson Ann 1 May 1825 33 Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Stinson Mary 3 Jul 1828 45 Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Stinson Robert 7 Jun 1835 46 Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Stinson Margaret 5 Mar 1842 54 Ashby De La Zouch - St. Helen Stinson Joseph 12 Jul 1848 30 It might take me a while for the Census returns. “ So watch this space …..” How far do you want me to spread out from Ashby in miles that is ? Ashby De La Zouch District has 31. Parishes within it .... MIKE.

Hi Mike, looking for all of them from 1860 backwards really. Yes the Davenports are the registrars, but not the superintendant one - just a 'simple' one. lol. The Stinsons were publicans and victuallers. The Davenports were also publicans. Mike: - do you know anyting about ColeOrton, was just wondering about the size of the cemetery?

Greeting's again Tom....... And the years you are looking for ? .... Are these Davenport's the Registrars I have found for you before ? MIKE.

Hello, names I;m looking for: DAVENPORT STINSON AYRE KNOTT In and around Ashby De La Zouch and ColeOrton. .

Mike Three cheers for you for all the time that you give to us looking for our ancestors as if you havn't got enough of your own to do. Sue........... Many thanks Mike you are so kind and thoughtful.I bet your scout lads make a fuss of you !

Greeting’s Again Jan….. Thinking a loud here now ….. Seeing that there was a Marriage taking place both at Stoney Stanton & Whitwick 18th. Dec 1926…..( As stated in my last post ) They could have gone to Coalville Register Office ? Just a hop ~ skip & jump down the Road from Whitwick. 2.2. Miles as the Crow fly’s…. Coalville comes under the DISTRICT of Ashby De La Zouch. They might not have Married in the Town of Ashby De La Zouch just because that was the District stated on the Ref. No. We’ll only know once the certificate is got ….. MIKE.xx

Mike Your efforts are much appreciated - wonder where they married then? Another item on the certificate wanted list. (sigh!) Do you happen to know where they would have gone for a civil ceremony? I'm now wondering why they may have made that choice especially if they had to get to Ashby. It's only 10-15 minutes away these days but I guess then it would have taken much longer. The local parish church would seem to the easier choice. Oh well will find it out one day! Thanks again for trying. Jan

*** F.A.O. ***.....Jan Moore. I have now completed the trawl through the (31) Parish Registers of the Ashby De La Zouch District ....At the Records Office . I'm sorry to say that I didn't find the Marriage ...... Although my heart did skip a beat both at Stoney Stanton & Whitwick there was a Marriage at both for the 18th, Dec.1926....... But not in the names we were looking for I also had the privilege to look at the original Marriage entries for the Methodist Chapel for Whitwick.... But again I drew a blank...... So.... That just leaves a Civil Marriage Service...... which You'll have to order the Certificate in order to see it. Civil Events are not held at the Records Office. So...' It's hand in your pocket time '..... Sorry...... I did try my best for you ... MIKE.

Mike you are a hero!!! Having done a fair amount of parish register scrutinising myself, I appreciate what's involved. I never thought about a marriage any where other than a parish church - it will be very interesting if it turns out to be a non-conformist...But my father-in-law's family were all christened at the parish church and counted themselves as members to some extent... Hope you do find them, Mike... Janx

Greeting's Again John O ' Kent..... Yes I too thought a bit strange....:o/ He from Markfield and her from Wartnaby just the other side of Melton Mowbray.... OH YES Thank you We know the marriage Ref including the date of 18th. Dec of the marriage I'm trawling the 31 Parishes within the Ashby District via the Records Office Wigston ...:o(((( only another ten Parishes to go ... Otherwise it's a Civil Marriage or Nonconformist Service...... MIKE.

Mike Again, many thanks for your time and effort. I thought the Markfield origin was strange, will try and do more reaearch on that one. Regards John (Kent) ****FAO Jan Moore******* ****and Mike the Leicester lad' This could be the marriage you are seeking, Joseph MOORE/Emily BURROWS Oct-Dec qtr 1926 7a279 Ashby De La Zouch John

Hi Paul, I already have your e-mail address, I'll e-mail you now.

Hi Mary, Thanks for that information. Looks like you are almost there with the mystery. Would you be able to send me copies of William's birth and marriage certs if I send you my e-mail address via PM? Whilst William, the younger, is not actually related to me the certs should allow me to eliminate his descendants from my research as there are still quite a few Screatons around in Leicestershire. You are welcome to any information that I have, which is all on my web site. I will send the url in the PM. Paul

*** F.A.O. *** John O ’ Kent. Following visit to the Records Office today Mixed Results I’m afraid….:o/ Confirmation of Baptisms Leicester. St. George’s Parish Church. Page. 251. Entry No. 2008. 26th. August. 1835. Joseph Stevens.Tomkins. Son of Thomas & Ann TOMKINS. Labourer. Belvoir Street., E. Henanby Vicar. Leicester. St. George’s Parish Church. Page. 12. Entry. No. 89. 19th. April. 1837. Joseph. Son of Thomas & Ann TOMKINS. Labourer. Hincks Square. Stanford Street. E. Henanby Vicar. The down side ….. I did trawl the Parish Registers for Markfield 1801. Through to 1815. But NO sign of any TOMKINS events what’s so ever…. Sorry…… *** F.A.O.*** Jan Moore. Sorry still no sign of the marriage of Joseph Moore & Emily Burrows 1926. Ashby De La Zouch District. We only have another 10 Parishes to go next time … Sorry…… *** F.A.O.*** Mary O’ Italy……. Sounds if your getting nearly there now … Lets just hope the Minster for the Baptist Church Can come up trumps for you …. Well Done …… MIKE.

Mike and Paul, thought you might be interested to know that the Screaton birth certificate arrived today. As I guessed in my last message, William appears to have been Mary Screaton's illegitimate child. He was born in Rothley on 11th June 1854, she's listed as his mother and the informant, and there's no father listed. William Wood North may have been his father, as he's listed as the father in the censuses and on William junior's marriage certificate, but as he was a bachelor and Mary was a widow in 1854, they could easily have married to avoid a scandal, so I'm assuming William Wood North wasn't the father, and took on another man's child when he married Mary in 1858. I've added a partner called 'unknown' to Mary on my tree, and put William as his son. I'll try and contact the Rothley Baptist Church to see i f there's any more information on the baptism certificate, assuming he was baptised there. Paul, I'll PM you if you don't reply here. Mary

That's very useful, John, thanks very much indeed. I'd been looking for Elizabeth's marriage to a Squires, but I hadn't started looking on the full index, which I assume is where you found it. My William Wood North lost his wife Mary Screaton (who Mike may remember) in 1879, and married Elizabeth in 1880.

FAO Mary from Italy. Elizabeth not in my tree, her parents were from Pickwell in Leicestershire, most of my Tomkins are from the city. I have done some research on your query which should help. The 1871 census shows Elizabeth, although married she is back with her parents listed in her married name of SQUIRES, research shows that she married Amos SQUIRES Dec qtr 1865 (7a389), sadly I also noticed a death report for Amos SQUIRES also DEC qtr of the same year - poor Elizabeth -. Hope this gives you something to clarify I think you will find it all fits in. Regards John

Mike Again many thanks. I think I will go for the Thomas TOMPKINS b Markfield, if you could possibly identify his parents I would be extremely grateful and a long standing problem resolved. John

Greeting’s Again John….. Although variation on the spelling of Surname is not a match Years do match…… 1841. Census HO 107. 604. Book. 12. / Folder.14. / Page. 29. St. Margaret’s & Bishops Fee. Stamford Street. Hincks Yard. Thomas Tompkins. 30. Lab. Ann. 30. JOSEPH. 4. James. 2. ALL Born within the County Same Family ? But Parish of birth for Children different ? …… 1851 Census 2088/ 409. / 4. / 15./ Leicester. Lower Charles Street. No. 6. Halford Square Thomas Tompkins Head M 41 M BREWER LEI MARKFIELD Ann Tompkins Wife M 40 F LEI WARTNABY Joseph Tompkins Son U 14 M SHOEMAKERS APP LEI SMGT James Tompkins Son 12 M LEI SMGT Sarah A Tompkins Dau 8 F LEI SMGT Matilda Tompkins Dau 5 F LEI SMGT Both above Addresses very close to St. Georges Church…… ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom(p)kin(s) with in the City of Leicester 1851. With connections to Northamptonshire. 1851. Again close to St. Georges Church.:- 2090. / 580. / 15. / 63. Leicester. York Street. John Tomkins Head M 59 M SUPER INVALID NTH KETTERING Sophia Tomkins Wife M 82 F HOUSEHOLD WORK LEI LEICESTER Charles Billson Lodg W 75 M RET. HOSIER LEI LEICESTER 1851. Leicester 2089. / 483. / 16. / 71.. St. Margaret’s parish. Off Sanvey Gate. No. 57. Needle Street. Samuel Tomkins Head M 52 M FWK NTH KETTERING Elizabeth Tomkins Wife M 50 F FWK SCT Ann Tomkins Dau U 29 F SEAMER LEI LEICESTER John Tomkins Son U 27 M FWK LEI LEICESTER William Tomkins Son U 18 M FWK LEI LEICESTER Joseph Tomkins Son 12 M WINDER LEI LEICESTER Elizabeth Tomkins Dau U 20 F FANCY STITCHER (HOSIERY) LEI LEICESTER Louisa Tomkins Gdau 11 F SEAMER LEI LEICESTER Rachel Tomkins Dau 10 F SEAMER LEI LEICESTER James Tomkins Son 8 M WINDER LEI LEICESTER Ambrose Tomkins Son 6 M LEI LEICESTER Eliza Tomkins Gdau 2 F LEI LEICESTER Although NO connection with Northamptonshire Within the same Street 2089. / 15. / 68. No 31. Needle Street. Thomas Tomkins Head M 31 M FWK LEI LEICESTER Selina Tomkins Wife M 35 F WORSTED SPINNER LEI LEICESTER The choice is yours as to which one we follow ? MIKE. * Waves back to Kate in Oz...* Chin up M' Duck..(((( HUGS ))).

John, I don't suppose you have Elizabeth Tom(p)kins, b. Leicester c1839 in your tree, do you? She married a Squires (possibly), and then my William North. Parents William and Mary, sister Leah.