Genealogy Chat

Victoria, don't they make our hobby so difficult? I am on my marriage license as American because I had a 'green card' = legal immigrant. Even 'though with a Geordie accent I had to repeat everything at least 3 times !!!! I think Karl will have to go down as forever unknown and probably unmourned. What a shame. Anne

My 1962 marriage certificate gives my Australian husband's occupation as 'Lt in the Royal Australian Navy'. His father's name and occupation make no notation that he is anywhere other than in England! Victoria

Georgina, a message for when you get up again :>) I'm off to email that place and try to find out the reqirements for 1919. Thank you muchly for that. Anne

Sorry, we are cross posting here. My last post was to say that I don't think he'd be on the 1901 census - unless my 'wishful thinking' find is him on the vessel Venezia

Anne I am off to bed now but I have just found this info I dont know if it will help. Foreigners Marrying in the UK England and Wales The Immigration and Asylum Act 1999 introduced changes to the Marriage Act 1949. These changes came into effect on 1 January 2001. These changes consist of: A common 15 day notice procedure A requirement for each party to the marriage to personally give notice of intention to marry A requirement for each party to the marriage to declare their nationality Powers to request evidence of identification by the Superintendent Registrar The 15 day notice period is applicable to anyone who is not living within the parish, as well as couples living abroad. If you wish to be married in England or Wales, you will need to satisfy the residential qualification of 7 days and then wait a further 15 clear days before you will be eligible to marry. Be advised that it is not possible to be legally married outdoors in England or Wales. Although we refer to the residency requirement in days, the registrar general for England and Wales interprets a 'day' as spending an entire night in the registration district in which you give formal notice of your marriage. When you give formal notice of your marriage, you will be required to sign a declaration that you have meet the residency requirement. Once you are reasonably certain about your itinerary, you should write to the register office where you will be giving notice of your marriage, giving details of your travel arrangements and intended marriage date. The superintendent registrar will then confirm that your arrangements are satisfactory (from a timing point of view) and will make an appointment for you to give formal notice and also a provisional booking for your marriage ceremony. For more detailed information, contact the marriages section of the Registrar General for England and Wales on 011 44 1704 569 824 or at http://www.statistics.gov.uk/nsbase/registration/marriage.asp. Good Luck with your search. Georgina.

According to my mom's elder sisters (from Margaret Jane's 1st marriage) Karl had a really heavy accent and was still working on Norwegian registry ships when he was with my gran.

Anne I am not sure if extra info would be needed for a foreigner to marry in England but I think the only way you will find out is to get the marriage cert. Georgina.

No Georgina, I don't have the marriage cert. I was hoping to know if any helpful info would be on there before I paid money for it. Have all the info to get it and I do believe that I probably have cousins over here BUT 'fixed income' ( Americans would cringe at the term OAP) means I need value for money. Would there be extra things required from a non English person? Anne

This must be Margarets first marriage... Marriages Dec 1905 BELL Margaret Jane Tynemouth 10b 435 FRY Michael Tynemouth 10b 435 LAWSON Samuel Henry Tynemouth 10b 435 SMITH Ann Helen Tynemouth 10b 435 There are tons of Andersons born in Norway on the 1901 census. Georgina.

Sorry, Margaret Jane was born in 1889 and a 'photo I have which I think is their wedding day shows them looking pretty much of a same age.

Anne if you have the marriage cert what was Karl's fathers name and what was Karl's occupation? Georgina.

Georgina, you are really not going to like this one LOL Karl Anderson, born Norway married Margaret Jane Fry nee Bell in North Shields 4th qtr 1919 10b 570 on which he is shown as Charlie. One child, Betty Olsen Anderson (my mom) born August 1st 1922. Then bu*****d off to the USA. Anne

Anne give us your grandfathers name & approximate year of birth. Georgina.

Sorry Kath, Ive tried about 6 different versions of that addie and all I get is 'no iformation available' - shoot, I wish I knew more about computers !! Anne

If a Norwegian merchant seaman married an Englishwoman would there have to be some kind of extra ID on the certificates? I am asking because my BC has my father's army # and regiment along with his regular occupation. I really truly have no clues whatsoever to my grandfather except his name and the possibility that he died in the USA. Anne. With a big PLEASE to anyone who can point in the right direction.

This is a good site for information found on certificates:- http://www.dixons.clara(.)co.uk/Certificates/indexbd.htm Kath. x

what can I expect to find