Genealogy Chat

Hi Kerrie Can you look up passenger lists from Melbourne to Sydney? I can only find ones up to 1861 and I need to search after 1863. Thanks. Lynette

Hi Kerri, Thank you for your generous offer. I'm trying to trace the Australian excursion of my Great Grandad - James Parish, possibly with a middle name of Harnette. He was born in Holloway, London in 1862 and went to Victoria, married and had three sons before returning to London by 1899 prior to the birth of his two daughters. I think I have his passage out to Australia in 1879, arriving Feb 1880 on SS Garonne (non-assisted). His wife's name (in 1901) was Mary (no surname yet), born Melbourne c1866 He had three boys all shown as born in Melbourne: - James Harnette Parish 1888 Henry Parish 1892 Roy V Parish 1894 Harnette was an inherited middle name, passed down over several generations to the boys named James, although I can't find proof of James (1862) having it. It may also be spelt Harnett without the 'e' in some cases. James (1888) was killed in action at Ypres in Belgium in 1917 during WW1. I'm trying to find the marriage, birth and baptism details, plus any help on the return date to UK would also be welcome. Thanking you in advance, Grahame Parish

Hello again Kerri I notice you can also look up immigration records. William Marsh went to Australia with his parents Samuel & Marianne (may be shown as Mary Ann) and his 6 siblings some time between 1852 and 1860. I would love to know any details of their immigration if this is possible. Many thanks, Gerald

Hi Gerald Not a problem. Let me know who to search. Kerri

Hi Kerri Thank you so much for all the info - all very useful and interesting. I hope you won't mind if I come back with further requests on my Australian Marshes - hoping to find out a lot more about them in the future. Thanks again, Gerald

Hi Rose From VIC records- Children of James KING & Agnes CONNOR Wilhelmina b 1858 at BMEADOWS Mary Jane b 1860 at B Helen b 1862 at CWOOD Amelia b 1866 at C Are these part of your family? Unnamed male KING died 1 day,parents James KING & Agnes at YARRA BEND Amelia KING died aged 2,1868,parents James KING & AgnesCONNOR Jas KING died aged 61 1884 at Melb W.,parents Jas & Agnes unknown Isabella KING,died aged 16, at PAIS, parents Jas KING & Agnes unknown Mary Jane KING b 1861 in Melbourne,parents James KING & Eleanor CONNOR Agnes PAYNTER,died aged 72, in Stawell,VIC 1903,parents Cruickshank Alex & Jane PATTERSON Thos PAYNTER died aged 63 in White Hill, 1889 parents Thos & Ann BRANCH A few marriages for Mary Jane KING in VIC ,none found in SA which has correct (or near) birth date & father. None for Helen but lots for Ellen. Kerri

Ok Keri no worries but thank you so much for looking. janey : 0 )

Hi Kerri Thanks for the information. You gave the name GATWOOD and one, Reuben, was definitely one of my GATWARD's. The names do interchange - I have found a variety when I was a Gatward! So did you just look up Gatward or Gatwood? Thanks agan. Regards, Sue

Hi Janey Sorry,I couldnt find him. Kerri

Hi Sue All GATWOOD's in VIC & SA Immigration to Victoria,Australia-Reuben GATWOOD,Ship- 'Statesman' Date-Sep 1852,age 26, Code B,Fiche 9,page 6 Percy Byron GATWOOD married Kleen Mary Hamilton BAILEY in 1919 in VIC reg no 354 Wm Fredk GATWOOD b 1919 at S Yarra,VIC,parents Percy Byron GATWOOD & Kleen Mary BAILEY reg no 30953 Ellen Annie Stokes b 15 Dec 1867 in Nth Adelaide,South Australia,parents Charles STOKES & Sarah Annie GATWOOD Book 55,p 108 May STOKES b 1 Apr 1874 in Nth Adelaide,SA ,parents Charles STOKES & Sarah Ann GATWOOD. Kerri

Hi Kerri I have a very starange story about this man but wont bore you with details LOL. He was born in London (West Ham) married my MIL in 1944 and then she marries again in 1945 in was in the Navy but cant find anything on him am wondering if he went to OZ or NZ. He was born Alec Peter Harold Davey in 1919 Dec I think. Thanks for your help janey

Hi Kerri I am doing a one name study of the name GATWARD (my maiden name). I know that some branches of the family ended up in Australia (one, at least, not by choice!) I would be grateful for any entries that you can find with this name to aid my ever growing database of Gatwards. Regards, Sue

Hi Gerald Children of William MARSH & Elizabeth TAYLOR Ssmuel George b 1861 at Harrow Mary Ann Carolin b 1863 at Cole Elizabeth Hannah b 1864 at C Joseph Robert b 1867 at H William Joseph b 1869 at H (parents as William MARSH & Elizabeth Hannah TAYLOR) Rachel Emily b 1870 at H Reuben b 1874 (parents as William MARSH & Elizabeth Hannah TAYLOR) Rachel Emily b 1876 at H Henry Jacob b 1878 at H Herbert Oliver b 1880 at H Edith Amy b 1883 at H Henry Jacob b 1885 at H Deaths Rachel Emily MARSH died 1874 ,aged 3,parents William MARSH & Elizabeth Hannah TAYLOR Henry Jacob MARSH died 1884,aged 6,parents William MARSH & Elizabeth TAYLOR Henry Jacob MARSH died 1885,aged 1 month,parents William MARSH & Elizabeth TAYLOR Marriage William MARSH married Elizabeth TAYLOR in 1860 reg no 1362 Kerri

Hi Jenny Only PENNIALL entry William born 1861,parents William PENNIALL & Mary RAY in Melbourne,VIC Kerri

Hi Kerri Thanks for your diligent research on Charles Frederick Engle and his father Charles Henry Engle. I have come accross a female by the name of Louisa Wilhelmina Engle who was the daughter of Johann Engle but the name reverts back to Engel for the rest of the children and it doesn't seem to fit. As for the others that you found, they are interesting connections but they don't seem to fit if Charles Frederick was telling the truth on his sons birth certificate about his birthplace and his fathers name. If not I think I am up the proverbial creek. One theory that a genes person came up with was that Charles Henrys fathers family came to England, stayed briefly than went to Australia using German names such as Claus Heinrich Engel and Claus Frederik Engel or something similar. But I just can't seem to get a handle on them which is a bit like a low level persistent toothache which I cant seem to get rid of, you know the story. I appreciate your efforts Regards John Engle from Balmain Sydney

Hi Kerry I would be ever so grateful if you could find any birth records for the children of William Marsh and his wife Elizabeth (probable maiden name Taylor) in Harrow, Victoria, probably between 1860 and 1885.

Hi Melisa Children of James BAIN & Martha WILKINSON Catherine BAIN b 15 Oct 1870 at Springfield Janet BAIN b 11 Jan 1877 at Williamstown (parents as James BAIN & Martha Ashton WILKINSON) Margaret MacLaren BAIN b 19 Mar 1866 at Victoria Creek Mary Webster BAIN b 5 Mar 1868 at S Robert BAIN b 3 Oct 1878 at W + James b 1874 Martha Ashton BAIN died aged 77,12 Nov 1913,relative-James BAIN (H) at Williamstown ,symbol S, Book 379,page 210 No more info on Martha. Symbol S - means supplementary information-Additional ,unusual information included on registration. You would need to get the certificate to discover this information. The only one of mine which had symbol S ,was one of a triplet. Kerri

Hi Kerri, Thanks you so much,I have just phoned my Father- In Law and he is estatic with info you have provided us and from him I would also like to say thank-you. Just another one if you don't mind going back to the Norman McLaren and you mentioned that he had an S next to his name which meant more info, where can i get this info from and do you know what it could be. Also on Norman again his parents you said where Martha and James Bain, do you have info on his Mother (James Bain Father) and any other sibling James may have had. Thanks Again from the Bain Family Melisa

Kerrie, Thankyou kindly for your look up for Charles Barry- he has hidden himself very well Victoria

Hi Melisa James Herbert BOWDEN b 19 May 1877 at Jamestown,parents John BOWDEN & Emma FRAPE Children of John BOWDEN & Emma FRAPE Ada Jane BOWDEN b 21 Nov 1878 at Pinda Alice Ethel May BOWDEN b 1 Mar 1888 at Kooringa Emma BOWDEN b 26 Feb 1882 at Wilmington Fredy Alfred BOWDEN b 22 Jun 1883 at Gawler Sth (parents as John BOWDEN & Emma TREAP) George William BOWDEN b 15 May 1880 at Pinda John Henry BOWDEN b 3 Feb 1876 at Booborowie Mary Ann BOWDEN b 26 Mar 1874 at Mannanarie (parents as John BOWDEN & Emma FRAP) Rose May BOWDEN b 12 Feb 1889 at Kent Town (parents as John BOWDEN & Emma FREAP) Stephen Bertie BOWDEN b 2 Jun 1885 at Korringa (parents as John BOWDEN & Emma FREAP) Thomas George BOWDEN b 31 Jan 1887 at K John BOWDEN ,single,26, father-Abraham BOWDEN married Emma FREAP, single,20,father-James FREAP on 4 Dec 1873 in Res of Mr Pope,in the district of Burra,Book 97,page 620 Nothing more found on Vera McCREDIE Kerri