Genealogy Chat

In 1891 Jane Hellsdon is with sister Margaret Fry, Edward and Richard and with Aunt and Uncle Thomas and Amelia Ellis, Maybe the family had to be split up as the parents died. Edward J Hillsdon abt 1879 London, England Nephew West Ham Essex Richard J Hillsdon abt 1877 London, England Nephew West Ham Essex Source information: RG12/1332 Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 69 Folio: 102 Page: 8

John is alive somewhere just doesn't want to be found. Name: John Parsons Hillsdon Birth Date: abt 1848 Year of Registration: 1906 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death: 58 District: West Ham County: Essex, Greater London Volume: 4a Page: 84

Looks like Martha may have lied a little about her age on the 1901 census. Birth Name: Martha Parsons Hillsdon Year of Registration: 1883 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Shoreditch County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 39

Having Martha's correct date of birth helped with finding the rest of the family in 1891. 1891 Amelia P Hilledon abt 1881 Hackney, London, England Daughter West Ham Essex Elizabeth W Hilledon abt 1874 London City Daughter West Ham Essex ........> Jane E Hilledon abt 1851 Llamyunser, Wales Wife West Ham Essex ......> John P Hilledon abt 1848 Islington, Middlesex, England Head West Ham Essex Martha Hilledon abt 1884 London City Daughter West Ham Essex William E Hilledon abt 1889 Forest Gate, Essex, England Son West Ham Essex Source information: RG12/1335 Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 81 Folio: 65 Page: 13

No Leonard is not with his grandparents in 1901. Think it highly likely that Harold and Leonard are one and the same. 1901. Frederick T Hilladon abt 1894 Forest Gate, Essex, England Son West Ham Essex Jane A Hilladon abt 1851 Llanbrynmair, Montgomeryshire, Wales Wife West Ham Essex John P Hilladon abt 1848 Islington, London, England Head West Ham Essex William E Hilladon abt 1889 Forest Gate, Essex, England Son West Ham Essex Source information: RG13/1587 Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Forest Gate ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 93 Page: 31

ARGGGGGGGGGg Thank you thank you thank you....you have all been so helpful BUT still no sign of Leonard John FRY....that man is driving me nuts....lol Jayne

hiya, we needed to see if leonard was with his grandparents, hillsdons, now we have established HE WASNT, one less dead end. could he be with the FRY grandparents?? Failing that it is like what has already been said, harold/leonard one and the same person, do you have a birth cert for harold??? Julie, gotta pick daughter up from school

Nope we have checked that he isn't with the FRY grandparents either...Just found a couple of possible births for Harold in Farnham and Medway. think the purchase of a couple of certs is in order Thank you all for all your help today its resolved a couple of points for me...lol and added lots of new ones. Ohhhh this really really trying....lmao Thanks again any further information would be gratefully received Jayne

Thanks for all your help julie have spoken to other half and i think we are going to take a trip down to portsmouth at some point to look at the parish records just need to find out now where they are kept Jayne

I had a similar problem when researching my ex-Father-in-Laws family. His father was Ernest Cooper b.1897. Hit a brick wall straight away - couldn't find him on 1901 census. It was some time later when I was looking for other family members that I came across a Jack Cooper who would be the right age etc. - after checking this out thoroughly I decided that this 'Jack' was actually Ernest (all b.m.d. certs have him as Ernest) and perhaps someone was 'having a laugh' or the Enumerator misunderstood - or both. When I presented my findings to my ex-Father-in-Law he said that he did remember (now I'd mentioned it) that his father was called Jack by other members of his family. Why?? - dunno!! - So, for what it's worth, my money's on Harold and Leonard being one and the same.

Thanks thats deffinatly food for thought. Have spoken to hubby and he has said it will have to be a trip to the record office at some point...nice for me means a weekend away....heheh Jayne