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A REALLY long-shot as no-one else has been able to find it BUT If you can, I would be Eternally grateful. Mark Fenton - born c 1851 - Broughton, Salford, Lancs, - Married Margaret McLoughlin in 1871 - January - just before the census. !! Can't find McLoughlin's, or Fenton's in Salford on 1871. Can yu find them ?? Dea Xxx

had found a family that lived there with henry of the same age as yours but seems abit far apart.there are no other henry abrahams/abraham from cornwall area in 1851/1861 census. i will keep looking though 1851 Henry abraham 1825 crowan cornwall emma abraham 1827 crowan cornwall john abraham 1845 ' ' henry ' 1847 ' ' edwin ' 1849 ' ' emma 1850 ' ' living in crowan cornwall

Hi Elizabeth Crowan is about 15 miles west of Falmouth, on my map.

Jim can you tell me how far crowan cornwall is from falmouth cornwall is please. regards lizz

Could you put it in your title what you can do please? Ros

Hi Elizabeth Thanks for your kind offer. Any chance you can find Henry pre 1871? 1871 census Henry Abrahams abt 1846 Falmouth, Cornwall, England Head St Mary Hampshire Maybe without the s.

Jennifer I have sent you a personal message glad to be of help. will keep trying the 1881 census for you regards lizz

AND Grace Ellen ( my great nan) - married the boy next door!!!! how sweet I,ve just compared the address you gave me to her husband to be's address she at no20 him at no31. I think i will go to Widnes Library now and keep going - maybe find school info Thank you so much jenx

ELIZABETH You are WONDERFUL - i cant believe it !!!!!!!! I'm nearly crying here - i know i'm a newbie but i just couldnt find them - not knowing where the Dad came from John - the hairdresser was graces twin and he died aged 21 - i'm waiting for his death cert - i thought it might of been a works accident - but i didnt know he was a hairdresser!!!!! Death by curling tongues perhaps!!!! If its not inappropriate - I LOVE YOU!!! lol Thank you thank you Whoopeee Jenx

Jennifer I have found them in 1891 census her goes robert jones 56 stone mason capelcarry n.wales catherine jones 50 bethesda caernarvon john jones 19 hairdresser widnes grace jones 19 widnes elizabeth jones 10 widnes they lived no 20 church street next door to hemmingways timber yard.widnes lancs.pro rg12/3011 folio 36 page 2. will look at 1881 again for you

Thanks Elizabeth - i have already got them in 1901 but its back from there i'm struggling with - i cant find them on the 1881 although maybe Grace Ellen was in service - theres an 11 yr old in toxteth liverpool - but i cant find the connection - thats why i was wondering about an 1891 address. Thank you so much for your time and effort on this - i owe you a drink Jenx

jennifer I have found grace and elizabeth jones and catherine jones in the 1901 census.grace was married to a thomas lawton and elizabeth living with them as sister in law,catherine as mother in law born 1841 bethesda caernarvonshire. i will try and work backwards.i can send you image if you would like regards lizz

Thanks Elizabeth - they are very tempting but 'margaret' is a loose cannon - it should be Catherine. - unless of course she (mgt)was his sister!! - please say yes as you might be onto something! Can i be really cheeky and ask if you could look up Grace Ellen Jones - probably in Liverpool on the 1891 - its the address i need if you find her as that may give me a clue, it might be Duke St but surprises are welcome as there may be a widnes address instead thank you so much for this jenx

Jennifer I have scoured the welsh and english census returns but i could only come up with this i am afraid. 1891 english census robert jones 55 forgeman merionethshire wales margaret jones 57 caernarvonshire wales catherine jones 22 liverpool lancs elizabeth jones 20 liverpool lancs john w jones 18 forgeman liverpool lancs they lived park road north (cavendish mount) birkenhead cheshire.pro RG12/2886 folio 97 page 11.

Sandie Sorry i am only doing census look ups regards lizz

Yvonne check your email regards lizz

Hi Lizz, Thank you very much for that info. yvonne

Yvonne I will try and find roberts parents later on today for you lizz

1901 John chorlton 1834 head farmer warburton cheshire isaac n chorlton 1862 son farmer bowden cheshire susanna chorlton 1865 daughter in law arnistock lancs mary chorlton 1890 granddaughter bowden cheshire john chorlton 1891 grandson bowden cheshire robert newton chorlton 1893 grandson bowden annie spencer chorlton 1897 granddaughter bowden lived dunham woodhouse dunham massey chester.pro RG13/3326 folio 59 page 12. 1891 John chorlton 57 farmer warburton mary ' 55 hale cheshire isaac n chorlton 29 son traction engine driver millington susannah chorlton 26 daughter in law latham lancs mary chorlton 1 granddaughter massey cheshire john chorlton ? months grandson ' ' lived dunham woodhouse dunham massey cheshire.pro RG12/2825 folio 7 page 9. on this line i can get you back to 1782 with elizabeth chorlton.i can send you images if you would like. isaac newton chorlton married sausannah spencer in march quarter of 1889 in ormskirk. 1871 robert spencer 1826 blacksmith rufford lancs ann spencer 1828 employing 1 man 2 boys burscough lancs elizabeth spencer 1852 ' ' james ' 1854 blacksmith ' ' mary spencer 1857 lathom ann spencer 1860 ' john spencer 1862 ' susannah 1865 ' lived hall lane blacksmiths lathom lancs pro rg10/388 folio 102 page 20. robert was also a farmer of 11 acres in this census 1861 robert spencer 1826 blacksmith rufford lancs ann spencer 1828 burscough elizabeth spencer 1852 ' ann spencer 1859 ' mary spencer 1857 lathom james spencer 1854 ' lived hall lane smithy's lathom lancs.pro rg9/2766 folio 90 page 10. they had a servant james spencer from ormskirk in this census I found a marriage of Robert Spencer and Ann Close in decemeber quarter of 1851 in ormskirk.I think this is your girl as looking at 1851 census she seems to be the only ann that married a robert spencer who was born in 1828 in lancs .if this is your girl then her parents are Jervis and mary close.and she was christened 19 AUG 1827 Ormskirk, Lancashire, England and born 31 JUL 1827 . this is all i have found at the moment..hope this helps lizz

Hi, was wondering on info on christopher kevin barry, and his parents. he was born approx 1950, married/devorced pamela jean sutherland around about 1970s. would appreciate any info from sandie