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John Brown and step children
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Mark | Report | 28 Jul 2006 14:07 |
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Afternoon all! I've now received the Marriage Cert for John Brown and Elizabeth Simpson which seems to match what I know to date. A couple of questions though... 1) The marriage was in 'The Cath. & Parish Church' inthe Parish of Manchester. What would a lowly ancestor of mine be doing getting married in a Cathedral? (Or was it more common back then (1850)? 2) Groom and his father's occupations given as Whitesmith which I believed to be to do with working with white metals. Does this tie in with John's later occupation as watchmaker? (I have found a census entry in 1841 for what might be the Brown's in Prescot where both John and Richard are 'watch-m')? 3) I can't at the moment find Elizabeth in 1841 - she was 28 in July 1850, d of John Simpson - occupation - 'Clogger' Mark |
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Janet in Yorkshire | Report | 19 Jul 2006 11:16 |
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Mark 1861 census index shows a John Thomas Brown in Coventry Holy Trinity, BUT born c 1861. The 1863 death could be him. Jay |
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Marie | Report | 19 Jul 2006 11:04 |
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One of the death certs I have states Name, date and place of birth. Address and occup Name of informant and cause of death. |
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Mark | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:54 |
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I've found a death in March 1863 in Coventry - a John Thomas. BROWN John Thomas Coventry 6d 316 What would the death certificate tell me if I forked out for it? Mark |
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Janet in Yorkshire | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:51 |
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The 2nd marriage seems to sort out for you the John Brown death as being the first one (1859) Mark, especially as he does not seem to appear in 1861. Jay |
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Marie | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:48 |
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No problem Mark Marie |
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Mark | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:47 |
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Thanks Marie, I keep forgetting to look there! Mark |
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Crafty | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:44 |
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Sorry Mark, but I can't find Elizabeth's second marriage on Ancestry. Perhaps they didn't marry? I have to go out now, good luck in your search, Sue Update...oh well done Marie! Looks like you've found it! |
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Glen | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:44 |
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Marriages Mar 1864 Coventry 6d 467 BROWN Elizabeth ELLIOTT William |
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Marie | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:44 |
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on freebmd site Marie |
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Mark | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:43 |
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How did you find that Marie? Mark |
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Marie | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:43 |
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found this marriage Marriages Mar 1864 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brown Elizabeth Coventry 6d 467 Elliott William Coventry 6d 467 |
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Mark | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:38 |
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Yes thats them - took me ages to find with Brown being mis-transcribed twice! I've just ordered the 1850 marriage cert, but still can't find Elizabeth marrying William Elliott. Mark |
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Marie | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:36 |
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1871 View Record Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image View Record Mary J Broner abt 1862 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Stepdaughter Foleshill Warwickshire View Record Richard Buron abt 1851 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Stepson Foleshill Warwickshire View Record Alfred Elliott abt 1858 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Son Foleshill Warwickshire View Record Ann Elliott abt 1852 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Daughter Foleshill Warwickshire View Record Elizabeth Elliott abt 1823 Prescot, Lancashire, England Wife Foleshill Warwickshire View Record William Elliott abt 1825 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Head Foleshill Warwickshire View Record William Elliott abt 1856 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Son Foleshill Warwickshire |
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Marie | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:32 |
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Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1850 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference BROWN John SIMPSON Elizabeth Manchester Cathedral Manchester CATH/78/130 |
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Crafty | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:30 |
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Do you have them on 1871 Mark, living with William Elliott? I can't seem to find them. Is Elizabeth using the Elliott name? Sue |
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Mark | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:27 |
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I don't think it could be 1859 - Mary jane was born November 1861. Can anybody find when William Elliott married Elizabeth - I can't find it. If John and Elizabeth married in 1850 and had Richard (poor soul he has been mistranscribed as Crown, Buron and all sorts in his life!) in 1851, I wonder what they were up to until 1860? Mark |
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Glen | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:19 |
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Marriages Sep 1850 Manchester 20 478 BROWN John SIMPSON Elizabeth |
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Crafty | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:18 |
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could any of these be John's death? Name: John Brown Year of Registration: 1859 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Coventry County: Warwickshire, West Midlands Volume: 6d Page: _48 (click to see others on page) Name: John Brown Year of Registration: 1864 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Coventry County: Warwickshire, West Midlands Volume: 6d Page: 322 (click to see others on page) Sue |
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Mark | Report | 19 Jul 2006 10:12 |
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Thats interesting Sue - looks like John must have gone (or died) before Mary Jane was born at the end of 1861. Mark |
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