Genealogy Chat

Have a google search for it.

once again thanks for everyones help. I,m going to obtain a copy of the marriage cert. All the names on the 1901 census from Tom tie to the knowlage I have been past from oldest living family memebers so i,m sure thats the correct family. Eldest daughters name Ada Gill or Ada Gill Tingle I wonder?No one alive knew if she had a middle name. Only other puzzle is the inclusion of a son called Fred which no one alive as knowledge of. Youngest son was called Albert but its possible Albert was born after 1901. All other names are correct.strange that the other Frederick Tingle did have a son called Albert. They were kicked out of their home during a big minning strike and Albert was born in a tent on the local gypsy site during the strike so the story goes. Wonder if anyone as knowlege of a minning strike date around the turn of that century?

I do apologise Tom, I was bleary eyed and thought the other 1901 census that had been added had been taken as the correct one. I didnt read all of the thread and didnt see your 1901. Yes, as you have found the other mistranscribed one it would seem likely that is the marriage and worth buying the cert. :}

Heather, this is the family in 1901 (i think?!?) View Record Ada Gill abt 1885 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Daughter Denaby Yorkshire View Record Doris E Lingle abt 1901 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Daughter Denaby Yorkshire View Record Fred Lingle abt 1899 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Son Denaby Yorkshire View Record Frederick Lingle abt 1863 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head Denaby Yorkshire View Record John H Lingle abt 1896 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Son Denaby Yorkshire View Record Joseph Lingle abt 1891 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Son Denaby Yorkshire View Record Mary A Lingle abt 1868 Landeywoods, Staffordshire, England Wife Denaby Yorkshire View Record Walter Lingle abt 1894 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Son Denaby Yorkshire Also, the oldest daughter has a different surname...?!!?! Mary was born c 1868, which means we are looking for a marriage around about 1888. The youngest child was born c1885, so a marriage in about 1884 would be best.

All the census have a heading for disability - it doesnt mean he was disabled unless the enumerator enters something in that column like Blind or something. Im afraid I dont think that is the right marriage Tom - its in Sheffield for one thing and it is 5 years after the birth of the first child. Id look a bit earlier I think probably around 1879. I think you could do well to take out an ancestry sub and look for the family through 1901 back to 1841. The marriage certificate can be bought for £7 from the GRO online website - it will give the fathers names and occupations of both bride and groom, the couples ages, where they were living at time of marriage and the witness names which are often good clues. You can then look for this Freds birth certificate which will give dad and mums names and work backwards from that info.

Perhaps this is your Frederick: Christening: 31 OCT 1858 Abinghall, Gloucester, England Parents: Father: ROBERT TINGLE Mother: CAROLINE There was also a brother listed, Edmund, who was christened the same day. Judy

Colwood Tom can i just ask 1 more question. on the print out thing you posted it says Disabilty;view image any idea what that might mean or is there an image to see?

realy appreciate the help got further in last 5 mins than last 10 hours lol

I would definately buy the marriage cert, but from the looks of it, it looks as though he may be a foundlung, so may not know who his father was or he may just make one up, you need to buy the marriage cert and then go from there.

thanks for the help, ( going dizzy with looking) so just to recap how do i now find his fathers name etc. from marriage certs?

THIS IS HIM IN 1901 he has been mistranscribed: View Record James Birch abt 1874 Not Known, Leicestershire, England Boarder Denaby Yorkshire View Record Ada Gill abt 1885 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Daughter Denaby Yorkshire View Record Doris E Lingle abt 1901 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Daughter Denaby Yorkshire View Record Fred Lingle abt 1899 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Son Denaby Yorkshire View Record Frederick Lingle abt 1863 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head Denaby Yorkshire View Record John H Lingle abt 1896 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Son Denaby Yorkshire View Record Joseph Lingle abt 1891 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Son Denaby Yorkshire View Record Mary A Lingle abt 1868 Landeywoods, Staffordshire, England Wife Denaby Yorkshire View Record Walter Lingle abt 1894 Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England Son Denaby Yorkshire View Record Elizah Sufft abt 1874 Cheslyn Hay, Staffordshire, England Boarder Denaby Yorkshire

true, will post the details... 1871 (relation PAUPER) Name: Frederick Tingle Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Pauper Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Westbury on Severn County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Source information: RG10/2604 Registration district: Westbury On Severn Sub-registration district: Huntley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 69 Page: 16 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 75 GSU Number: 835279 1881 (relation INMATE) Name: Frederick Tingle Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Inmate Household: View other family members Family and neighbors: View neighbors Gender: Male Where Born: Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Bitton - Oldland County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: 'Kingswood Reformatory' In Oldland Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Source information: RG11/2447 Registration district: Keynsham Sub registration district: Oldland ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 67 Page: 40 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 1341589 SORRY, in 1881, he is in a Reformatory

thanks for all the replies. the lad from 1858 looks closest i guess, if so wow what a fib about his age. Col was that a wind up about the workhouse or true?

this could be his marriage - if you ordered that it would give the fathers name: - View Record Thomas Biggin 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Sheffield South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire View Record Fanny Maria Bramhall 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Sheffield South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire View Record Harriett Ann Brett 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Sheffield South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire >>>View Record Mary Ann Hurt 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Sheffield South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire >>>View Record Frederick Tingle 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Sheffield South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire

Olde Crone, thats the one. Oh dear is this a duplicated thread? Im off to bed then. Nite nite O.C.

I'm having a feeling of deja vu here....didnt Jess find him for you earlier? In the 1871 I think - he was a pauper... Or is it time I went to bed?! OC

1901 this is only one i could find age slighlty out though Albert Tingle abt 1898 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Arthur Tingle abt 1887 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Elizabeth Tingle abt 1880 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Ethel Tingle abt 1893 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire ===View Record Frederick Tingle abt 1858 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Israel Tingle abt 1885 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Leonel Tingle abt 1889 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Mary Ann Tingle abt 1859 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Maurice Tingle abt 1891 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Tom Tingle abt 1895 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean

Hi, is this him in 1901 - says 1858 birth View Record Albert Tingle abt 1898 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Arthur Tingle abt 1887 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Elizabeth Tingle abt 1880 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Ethel Tingle abt 1893 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Frederick Tingle abt 1858 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Israel Tingle abt 1885 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Leonel Tingle abt 1889 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Mary Ann Tingle abt 1859 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Maurice Tingle abt 1891 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire View Record Tom Tingle abt 1895 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire In 1871 there is a Fred Tingle which seems to be this guy but born 1863 and a pauper in a workhouse?

just found him in the workhouse in 1871 and 1881 - poor boy, it may be that he was 'dumped' at the workhouse by his mother - you could try and find a baptism for him...

only have him from 1901 cenus. which ties up to info from rrelatives ie place of birth and age.