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Thank you for that Jo Jo Sylvia

Sylvia I am sure Mike will get back to you but this is what I think it means. John Parrs. Head Mar. 31. Master Tailor. Emp 1 Man b Great Dalby. John Parrs - Name Head - head of household Mar - married 31 - his age Master Tailor - occupation Emp 1 Man - employs one man b Great Dalby - born in Great Dalby Hope this helps. JoJo

Thank you so much for all that information Mike, yes i do have 1881, but being in Oz and not having Ancestry, that is such a great help. I have found John jr in1941 birth, he was born in 1839, so age would be about right for him. In 1851 can you tell me what Emp 1 Man stands for, see below. John Parrs. Head Mar. 31. Master Tailor. Emp 1 Man b Great Dalby. . Sylvia

Greeting Again Elaine .... lol ' Don't get the Champer's out just yet '...:0)))) If I find the details it will only be a transcript of those details on an ordinary white Index Card 4 inches by 3 inches ...:0(((( Was that Elizabeth HOPEWELL one of your's then ? MIKE. xx

Greeting’s & Welcome Sylvia…. EYES DOWN……… 1841. Census HO 107 / 604. / Book No. 9. / Folder. 8. / Page. 10. St. Margaret’s & Bishops Fees. Metcalf Street. John Gough. 35. Tailor. Mary. 35. Mary. 15. Eliza. 12. Harrt ? Female 8. Harriett see 1871. Census ? JOHN. 2. ALL born within the County. MARRIAGE Found.:- John Gough. ~ Mary Hearn. St. Margaret’s Parish church. 19th. Jan. 1824. By Banns. Don't forget the enumerates rounded DOWN the ages of those over 15 To the nearest multibles of 5. on this Census therefore John,Mary. Eliza could be older than ages shown. So just wonder if these are John & Mary's burial in St. Margaret's Parish Church :- Names. / Dates. / Ages. / GOUGH JOHN 18 SEPT 1844 42 GOUGH MARY 21 MAY 1845 42 Which might explain why John at 12 years was on his own and making his way in life? 1851, Census. HO 107 / 2091. / 80. / Pages 21.~ 22. Melton Mowbray.. Great Dalby. John Parrs. Head Mar. 31. Master Tailor. Emp 1 Man b Great Dalby. Lyndia Wife. 25. b Ditto. Jane. Dau. 6. Ditto. Simon. Son. 3. b Ditto. Josiah. Son. 2. b Ditto. Sarah Ann. 11. Months Old. b Great Dalby. Also within the Household Thomas Martin Servant. 22. Tailor Journeyman. b Markfield. Leicestershire. JOHN GOUGH. App. 12. Apprentice Tailor. b St. Margaret’s Leicester. MARRIAGE Found :- John Gough. ~ Sarah Ann Underwood. St. Mary’s Church. Melton Mowbray. 20th. March. 1859. By Banns. 1861. Census. RG 9. 2288. / 47. / Page. 10. St. Margaret’s Parish Christ Church. Feuton Street ( But I believe it to be Melton Street.) John Gough. Head. Mar. 22. Tailor. b St. Margaret’s Leicester. Sarah A. Wife. 22. Dress maker. b Melton Leicestershire. Betsy. Dau. 1. b St. Margaret’s Leicester. 1871. Census. RG 10. 3573. / 62. / Page. 22. Derbyshire. St. James Parish. Litchurch. Strutt Street. John Gough. Head. Mar. 32. Tailor. b St. Margaret’s Leicester. Sarah A. Wife. 332. b Melton Leicestershire. Betsy. Dau. 11. Scholar. b St. Margaret’s Leicester. Fanny. Dau. 9. Ditto. b Ditto. John. H. Son. 7. Ditto b Derbyshire. Harriett Dau. 5. Ditto b Ditto. Josiah. 3. Ditto b Ditto. Mary. Dau. 1. b Litchurch Derbyshire. So…. There you have it …. I take it you have details of 1881 census then ? Parrs were bespoken Tailors & Saddler's in Belgravegate MIKE. xx

Hi Mike Many thanks for that, it's become a mission to find all of my Wards LOL and as yet have not followed up a licence. Can't wait Elaine

Greeting’s Again Elaine …. There you GO ........ Transcript of that Marriage…….. Marriage Register St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester. Entry No.404, OCT 8, 1838, by LICENCE GEORGE ISAAC WARD, Full age, Bachelor. FISHMONGER, of RUTLAND St, Son. of JONAS WARD, FISHMONGER ANN REVELL, Full age, Spinster. SERVANT, of BELGRAVE GATE, Dau. of WM. REVELL, WOOL COMBER Wits: GEORGE BIRCH, ANN ? HOULT. With the above info I hope to find out Who put up the bonds or consent ? from the Index Cards At Wigston. **************************************** Was it you with Elizabeth Hopewell who gave us the run about Look who is one of the Witnesses is then ? St. Margaret’s Parish Church Leicester. > Entry No.329, JUL 9, 1853, after Banns GEORGE WARD, 26, WID.. TURNER, of HUMBERSTONE GATE, Son. of ROBERT WARD, FWK EMMA ELIZABETH BARLOW, 20, Spinster. of UPPER CHARLES St, d. of JAMES BARLOW, SAWYER Wits: FREDERICK BARLOW, ELIZABETH HOPEWELL. MIKE.xx

Hi Mike, Would you have anything on the Gough family, my great grandfather John Gough,born 1839 in Leicester. He married a Sarah Ann Underwood in Melton Mowbray in 1859. In 1881 hes in Derby, with the occupation as a tailor and mission preacher. If possible i would like to know who his siblings and parents were? Thank you Sylvia

Hi Mike Am looking for the licence for George Ward and Ann Revell 8th Oct 1838 at St Margarets Church Many thanks and hoping to sit down and search a bit tomorrow, have missed it big time Elaine

*** F.A.O. ***…….. Elaine. The where abouts of the Marriage of Florence Kate 1891 ? Ummm ? Nothing showed up using my resources to hand. But thinking aloud here……. I see they are newly wed on the 1891.Census. Your Free BMD Ref = March Qrt. 1891. My G.R.O. BMD = Jan. Feb. Mar. Qrt 1891. Both do have the same Ref No. 7a 337. though. Therefore Common denominator is MARCH. then.? The address on that Census return puts them in the Fast growing St. Matthews Estate. Churches within that Estate..... Were St. Matthew’s, St. Luke’s, Christ Church. ( All theses were part of St. Margaret’s Parish Hence Bishop Fees was in the title on the Censuses . ) and the Nonconformist St. George's Chapel. So maybe Thomas & Florence married in one of these? I can but have a look at these for you next time I’m at Records Office. ( Thursday ) Or they could have had a Civil Service Marriage ? in which case No records will be available at the Records Office. Yes……. Pass the other details for that Marriage conducted under Licence. (A year would be very helpful. ). I might be able find them using the Licence Index Cards…… That will at lest give us the Church. Then I could find the Registers for that Church. If that’s what you were looking for.. MIKE. xx *** F.A.O. ***……… Jon O’ Kent. Well Done Mate ….. All ways use the Web site & NOT the “ Update pop up box “ whilst viewing files….. It always seems to miss a file this way....... MIKE.....( NO..... I'm not in charge ....:0 ( )

Mike (he who must be obeyed) Version 7 downloaded, viewing restored. Regards Jon O'Kent

Greetings all: Still looking for people with the surname Goadby, Rowbotham, Phillips, Bradbury and particularly: Descendants of Sarah Ann Goadby (b1868) and Harry Moir of Upper Brunswick Street Descendants of Joseph Goadby (b1873) and his wife Clara of Wharf Street Decendants of Samuel Bradbury (1849-1922) and his wife Emma (nee Friswell) - Wanlip Villa, Harrison Road Arthur H Smith grocer of 2 Denmark Street (born c 1882 and still alive in the 1940s) and his younger half sister Annie Riley (born c 1884) Descendants of Abraham Phillips and Charlotte (nee Allen) Every little helps. Sheila

Hi Mike Was wondering if you could have a look at a marriage licence unless it is too long winded, will post details if you tell me it's alright. Also, have a Florence Kate Neal Wright who is illegitimate but all census returns have her down as Florence Kate Moore, dau of Thomas and Mary Elizabeth. I have found her marriage to Henry Arthur Williamson on Freebmd Marriages Mar 1891 Williamson Henry Arthur Leicester 7a 337 Wright Florence Kate Leicester 7a 337 I wondered if they appeared on any of your discs as they did not marry at St Margs, 1891 census has them living at 29 Upper Brunswick Street with her sister Edith Moore. Thanks Elaine

mike Many thanks for your time and trouble, and please accept my apologies for not coming back to you sooner. The Dixon family, marriages and burials all tie in with what I'd already found and/or been given by another descendant. The first William Dixon born at Halam is news to me though. Ann Parnham (nee Dixon) is my direct line Ancestor. The main thing we were trying to find was a place of birth for William Dixon. Thank you again for all your time and trouble. And please also thank your informant from the other site for his(her?) efforts. Its at least given me a bit more to go on. Barbara PS there are at least 3 of us on this site who will benefit when one of us finally ties William down!

Greeting's Again Jon O'Kent ..... Sorry to hear your having problems with your Adobe viewer YES...This happened to me a while back now You have to go to the Adobe Webb site and down load the FREE Adobe 7.0 down load it to your C: Drive > Programme files Then it fixed it for me...... MIKE.

*** F.A.O.***...... Barbra Dodds.. Greeting's Again Barbra...... Here below are the messages passed onto me from my colleague from the other site using your details posted on here :- OK I'm going to play devil's advocate here...... I've found the missus (Monney/Monny Ann) and children in Halam. Nottinghamshire in 1841 and 1851 ... all born Redmile according to the 1851. Do you think that Barbara realises that o.t.p.( Of this Parish) on marriage doesn't necessarily mean they were born in that parish? He could have been living and working in Belvoir. Don't seem to be many Dixon’s around the Belvoir/Woolsthorpe area - but there are a lot from Halam, including a William 1775. Close enough to be a possible? I'm wondering if the move to Halam (assuming I have the right family) was a return to his roots ..... Christening found :- William Dixon. 12th. Feb. 1775. Halam. Father Richard. Mother:- Elizabeth. 1841 HO107 866 24 11 Halam Monney/Monny? Dixon (female) 45 ag lab N John 9 N Eliza 5 N Ellinor 2 N N. = Not born within the County of Nott's 1851 HO107 2134 288 16 Halam Ann Dixon head Wid. 53 charwoman Leics Redmile Ellin Dau 11 factory hand Redmile Eliza Dau 14 factory hand Redmile Sarah Ann Harvey ? Dixon G/dau 2 Halam John Dixon son 19 ag lab Redmile John Marshall lodger 58 framework knitter Nott’s Carlton 1861 RG9 2470 102 12 Halam Mary Ann Dixon head wid 67 washerwoman Lincs Woolsthorpe John Marhall boarder 60 ag lab Nott’s Carlton 1871 RG10 / 3532/ 92/Page. 7 Halam. Ann Dixon Head Wid. 77 Lincolnshire Woolsthorpe Ann Dixon junior married Benjamin Parnham at Halam 20/12/1847 1851 HO107/ 2128/ 275/ Page 16 Main Street, Lambley Nott’s Benjamin Parnham head 29 ag lab Lambley Ann wife 25 Leics. Redmile William son 4 Nottingham? George son 2 Lambley Benjamin son 2 months Lambley Couple of burials at Halam William Dixon age 62 31/03/1841 Ellen Dixon age 15 17/09/1854 Then this looks promising .... Marriage at North Muskham George Nicholson and Eliza Dixon 21/02/1860 1861 RG9 2474 96 7 Principal Street, North Muskham Nott’s George Nicholson head 23 carrier North Muskham Eliza wife 25 dressmaker Leics Redmile Mary Eleanor Dau 8 months. I have the Phillimores early Marriages for Lincs and the entry says:- Woolsthorpe. Wm Dixon, of Belvoir, & Monney (signs Monny) Ann Tomisman 16 June 1817 Could well be a second marriage as William was pushing 40? In fact, there are some children on the IGI born to William and Elizabeth Dixon prior to 1817 but I didn't look too closely ……. Few more snippets :- Ann Parnham buried Lambley 05/07/1854 age 28 Eliza Dixon/Nicholson ended up here in Balderton where I live. As did a William Dixon born Redmile c.1822 ...I assume they are siblings? Dixon burials at Balderton Hannah Elizabeth 07/12/1876 age 23 Elizabeth 08/04/1878 age 58 Elizabeth 07/09/1883 age 52 William 05/05/1884 age 62 abode Newark George 29/07/1890 18months Ethel Kate 21/06/1897 age 10 I hope this might help you ? MIKE.xx Redmile cames under ' The Liberty of Belvoir ' Redmile to Belvoir = 3.1. mile Redmile to Woolsthorpe = 5.4 miles. Redmile to Halam Nott's = 36.1 miles

Jon o'Kent In case you don't know - there are plenty of STINSON events in the Whitwick St John registers. Just a name that sticks out for me - no personal connection! Jan

Mike Many thanks, having trouble with my Discs, maybe my Adobe needs updating, will view details on Ancestry. Jon O'Kent

sorry Mike, think I miswrote it, John Ayre born in 1733 or 1734, apologies, tom.

Greeting;s Again Tom ... Yes that john was in my post :- JOHN. …12th. April. 1773. Father:- John. Mother:- Anne. I did try my best for you ....got most of them for you Full details will be at the Records Office though MIKE.