Genealogy Chat

Thanks Mike you a great guy for finding out so much on the Henfrey's There are so many Thomas Henfreys I don't know where to start to send for death certs The dates of Thomas & Elizabeth death and age are different for 1849 so that eliminates that they both died at the same time. John

Hi Mike I'm surprised the pencil is still usable with all you've done. Sorry can't say O' club without a smile on my face..*cough*cough* hmm where was I?? I've just checked the 1841 census and the William and Elizabeth waldrom/n I named before appear to be the right ones for the children I mentioned. That is Mary, Jane, Eleanor and Elizabeth. This is because William and Elizabeth have a 2 year old Betsy Brown staying with them and I believe that it is the daughter of my Jane Waldrom who married a William Brown. My main hope was to connect Ann to the family as that would clear up the family mystery for sure. So Ann's birth would probably be the next best thing which should be in Leicester according to the census'. Tara for now :) and thanks again for all your help :) Loz O' Leicester Just for the curious, One of John O' Kent's Tomkins is my gtgt uncle.

Hi, I didn't think that I would want another look-up so soon, but have just found another possible son for John and Ann Fern. He seems to have married an Ann Bishop in q4 of 1848, possibly at Coleorton, (the district is Ashby de la Zouche) so if you have these records, do they give the name and occupation of this father please. Many thanks, Hilary

Greeting’s Again...... John Lewis. Henfrey Burial’s for Welford Road cemetery :- Names. / Dates. Ages. / Last known Address. / Parish.:- HENFREY Kate 16 Jul 1867 3mths Colton Street Saint George C B 855 C 10279 HENFREY Mary 8 Feb 1879 52 Fairfax Street Saint Mary C B 855 C 20214 HENFREY Mary Ann 30 Mar 1857 57 11 Welford Road Saint Mary U E 712 S 4869 HENFREY Mary Ann 13 Jan 1862 49 34 East Street Saint George U E 712 F 10651 HENFREY Thomas 13 Jul 1875 78 Friars Lane Saint Martin U E 712 F 34460 HENFREY Thomas 8 May 1882 56 Leicester Borough Asylum Humberstone C C 193 C 23375 HENFREY Thomas 24 Jul 1877 44 Frog Island All Saints C B 855 C 18836 HENFREY William 4 Nov 1866 76 Wellington Street Saint George C A 202 C 9799 C. = Consecrated Ground. U. = Un Consecrated Ground. B,E,A. = Sections. No’s = Plot No’s. C. = Common Plot. S. = Single Internment. F. = Freehold Plot. These are the ones you have mentioned Henfrey Burials for St. George’s Parish Church :- Names. / Dates. / Ages. / HENFREY ALFRED 31 AUG 1847 INF *HENFREY ELIZABETH 27 FEB 1845 47 *HENFREY ELIZABETH 22 JAN 1849 40 HENFREY GEORGE 12 APR 1849 INF HENFREY HARRIET 16 FEB 1843 INF HENFREY HENRY 02 APR 1837 3 HENFREY JOHN 17 NOV 1840 51 HENFREY THOMAS 07 JAN 1849 11 *HENFREY THOMAS 10 JUL 1849 55 Either Scarlet Fever or Influenza Don't think it was an accident different burial dates .... MIKE.

Hi Mike, Many thanks for the extra Fern data, it could prove useful. I will keep a look out for any results from the Record Offce. I am still finding new Ferns so I may be asking for more help in the future if that is OK. Yours, Hilary

Mike Was there an epidemic in 1849 in Leicester because I found a Thomas & Elizabeth Henfrey both died in March 1849 and a son George Henfrey died April 1849. Can't find Thomas or Elizabeth on any of the census's but did find 3 daughters living together in the 1861 census. I was wondering if it was illness or possibly a tragic accident.

Greeting’s again Jon O’ Kent…….. ( Founder member of the O’ Club.) I did only trawled Registers up to 1817…. I need to leave you something to do …lol :0))))) *** F.A.O. ***….Loz O’ Leicester. ( Second member of the O’ Club.) Yes I noticed that there was three Turlington Families in Quorndon As far back as on the Head count Census. 1821. John Turlington. 3 Men. 2 Females. 2 Boys. 2 Girls. Robert Turlington. 1 Man. 1 female. 2 Girls. Widow Turlington. 1 Female. MIKE. Hopefully to resharpen me pencil and clear this mountain of paper……

Thanks Mike for finding marriage of Thomas Henfrey & Elizabeth Ball, I was hoping to find the name of their father's on it but pleased with the info you found

Mike Further to my William/Ann query, have found these on IGI 1. 11 Nov 1818 Christening St Marg Ann TOMKIN Father William TOMKIN Mother Ann 2. 09 Nov 1820 Christening St Marg Caroline TOMKYNS Father William TOMKYNS Mother Ann Can you cross check for me please ?. Regards Jon O'Kent

Thank you Mike that has proved very useful confirming some details. but also hopefully giving me a little extra to go on. It's a shame the records office is closed but I guess it will give you a well earned break. I have done a little digging on the LDS site and am wondering if we're on the wrong track with the Quorn Marriage. There appears to be a number of Turlington familes in Quorn and I found an entry on the lDS with someone naming parents of William as John Waldrom and Ann Burton in Kegworth. A bit of a dillema really not knowing if the right William and Elizabeth are even on the census. arrggh. you're welcome John ,theres a few of us out there :)

Mike Brilliant, many thanks, You've always been streets ahead of us, thats why we keep coming back for more, whilst you remain in front we will keep chasing. What on earth will you do whilst the Records Office is closed, or is that a silly question?. Regards Jon O'Kent '''FAO''' Loz O'Leicester Welcome to the 'O' club Jon O'Kent

Greeting's Again Hilary..... Well not that fruitless It has eliminated one Church. I did try Braunston in Northamptonshire via the I.G.I. Batch numbers but drew a blank. We had the same problem a while back and came to the conclusion they were just staying in a House in Leicester that was owned by the Northamptonshire owner of the Boat especially during the winter months.... We'll have to keep our eyes open..... MIKE. UPDATED....24.40.HRS. Just noticed on I.G.I. Batch Numbers there is a William Fern. ~ Hannah Latham. 25th. March. 1819. St. Margaret's Parish Church. By Banns. Seeing John & Ann had a daughter named Hannah I think there could be a link there somewhere ? I'll check it out when the Records Office reopens Greeting’s Again Hilary…. Umm……. Different spelling ? Burials found for Welford Road Cemetery. I’ve chosen those which were close to the Canal mooring’s Interestingly… Navigation Road…. Names. / Dates. / Ages./ Last known address. / Parish. / Notes. Fearn --- 31 Jul 1885 Stbn Navigation Street Saint Margaret U Q 236 C 55984 Child Of Sarah Ann Fearn Ada 6 Jul 1882 6mths Navigation Street Saint Margaret U P 850 C 49250 Fearn Ann 5 Sep 1856 73 2 Bedford Street Saint Margaret U O 848 C 4253 Fearn Ann 1 Nov 1870 17 Navigation Street Saint Margaret U R 1208 C 24968 Fearn Benjamin 29 Apr 1882 15wks Navigation Street Saint Margaret U P 850 C 48891 Fearn Ellen 10 Aug 1863 6 Navigation Street Saint Margaret U R 1208 C 12720 Fearn Frederick 17 Dec 1881 1 Navigation Street Saint Margaret U P 850 C 48127 Fearn Herbert 22 Jul 1865 4wks Navigation Street Saint Margaret U R 1208 C 15847 Fearn Jane Elizabeth 29 Jan 1871 16mths Navigation Street Saint Margaret U R 1208 C 25550 Fearn Joseph Arthur 15 Oct 1883 3wks Belgrave Leicestershire U E 493 C 51914 Fearn Mary 2 Feb 1863 17mths Navigation Street Saint Margaret U R 1208 C 11922 Fearn Sarah Ann 13 Oct 1875 26 Leadenhall Street Saint Margaret C N 1329 C 17120 U. = Unconsecrated Ground. Q,P,O,E. = Section. No’s = Plot No’s. C. = Common Plots. No’s = Burial No’s. Stbn. = Still born. MIKE.

Mike, Thank you so much for looking. Sorry that it was a fruitless task. Hilary

“ EYES DOWN FOR THE SECOND ROUND…..” *** F.A.O *** Loz O’ Leicester. Parish Registers St. Leonard’s Parish Church. Page. 33. Entry No. 259. November. 19th. 1831. William Illegitimate Son of Ann Waldrom. ABBEY – GATE. R. Cutton. Curate. St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Page. 119. Entry. No. 356. Christopher Peacock. Bachelor Ann Waldrom. Spinster. Both of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By Me :- N. Bannaman. Curate. This Twentieth Day of February. One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty One. Christopher signed by own Signature. Ann by her Mark = X Wit’s :- Elizabeth Waldrom. By her Mark = X John Markfield. By his Mark = X QUORNDON. Year of 1803. William Waldrom. Bachelor of this Parish. Elizabeth Turlington. Spinster of this Parish. Married following Banns. By Me :- J.W.K. Boyer Minister. Both signed by their Marks = + times two. Wit’s :- Samuel Ayitt. Mary Bostock by her Mark I’m sorry I was not able to make out the date I have ordered to see the original Parish Register from the strong Room for next time I’m there. *** F.A.O.***…… Hilary. I’m sorry but having trawled the Parish Registers for St. Margaret’s Church 1811. Through to 1817. But no Sign of the Marriage of John & Hannah Fern. Sorry….:0(((( *** F.A.O.***……… John Lewis. St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Page. 113. Entry. No. 339. Thomas Henfrey. Bachelor. of this Parish. Elizabeth Ball. Spinster. Of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By Me :- N. Bannaman. Curate. This Seventeenth Day of January One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty one. Thomas signed by his Mark = / Elizabeth signed by her Signature = E. Ball. Wit’s :- John Allen. Edward Thompson. By Mark = + I did check out the Banns but Records stopped 1813. And then restarted 1897. So unable to find the birth place of Thomas. Sorry…….:0((( *** F.A.O. *** Jon O' Kent ... I was ahead of you Mate ..... St. Margaret's Parish Church Page 173. Entry No. 2184. 12 Oct. 1831. Jane Daughter of William & Ann Tomkins Archdeacon Lane Labourer. R. Barnaby. Curate. Also ( Sorry unable to make out Date or Page No.. ) Entry 18. John Son of William & Ann Tomkins Archdeacon Lane. Lab. William Fry Officiating Minister. May I remind you all that Records Office is now CLOSED until The week starting October 22nd.2006. I’ll try and answer other queries But we will have to wait until the Records Office reopens TO CONFIRM any thing that requires details from there. MIKE.

Mike many thanks, strong possibility George could be child of William and Ann (Clarke) but there is the problem of eleven year gap, will check IGI for any additional siblings Regards Jon O'Kent

Also, Thomas who marries Sarah Newberry is my George's brother Elaine

Hi Mike YOU ARE MY HERO The christening ties alot of loose ends, George senior's mother being Hannah is by all accounts Hannah Whene, can't be too many people with that surname!!! Big thank you Elaine

Hi Mike Thanks for looking for me. I have to be honest and say that I found the Children on the LDS site. I did think that the William and Elizabeth I found might not be the parents due to the age of William. It's a possiblity that the quorndon marriage could be them. ho hum Thanks again Loz Oh for a bit of originality in the names eh John ; )

Greeting's & Welcome John Lewis.... Confirmation from two separate resources I have to hand MARRIAGE. St. Margaret's Parish Church Leicester. Thomas Henfrey. ~ Elizabeth BALL 17th. January. 1831. By Banns Let me have a look next time I'm at the Records Office for you *** F.A.O. Hillary *** OK I'll have a look at Parish Registers and get back to you MIKE.

Mike, Thank you so much for that baptism information. If you have marriage transcriptions for St Margaret's, can you possibly have a look for a marriage for John and Ann Fern possibly around 1814. It might just be a long shot however as they were boat people, and other children were baptised at Braunston. Thank you Hilary