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Hello Mike yes please, hoping the adult christening is Nailstone Elaine

Mike ps and just Nailstone otherwise it will take too long and thanks as always Elaine

Hello, I would be grateful for any extra details than are given on IGI for the baptism of Hannah Fern at St Margaret's. Leicester on 27/11/1822. She is the daughter of John and Ann Fern, and info on where they live or occupatiion would be so welcome. They may be a canal family. Thank you Hilary

Mike Thanks for your quick reply. Could well be Mary WIDDOWSON, if it shows William & Mary TOMKINS on the register then George must have been born after 1834, that could be interesting as on Georges marriage cert in 1851 he states his age as 22, don't lke the look of that !!!! Regards Jon O'Kent

Greeting's & Welcome Hilary...... OK..... Printed that off . I'll see what the Parish Registers states ' WATCH THIS SPACE......... ' MIKE.

Greeting's Again Jon O ' Kent...... There was another marriage of William Tomkins.~ Anne Clarke 6th. April. 1818. but that was for 1818. So...... dispelled that one too early ? ..... MIKE. *** F.A.O.*** Jon O’ Kent :- Entry No.305, DEC 25, 1851, after Banns GEORGE TOMKINS, 22, Bach. CHIMNEY SWEEPER, of ROYAL EAST St, Son. of WILLIAM TOMKINS, LABORER ELIZA GREGORY, 20, Sp. of ROYAL EAST St, Dau. of JOHN GREGORY, BRAZIER Wits: SAMUEL FOX, LOUISA FOX. George’s Brother ? Entry No.274, NOV 20, 1851, on Superintendent Registrar's Certificate THOMAS TOMKINS, 33, Bach. CORDWAINER, of ROYAL KENT St, Son. of WILLIAM TOMKINS, CORDWAINER ANNE RENNIE, 29, Wid. of ROYAL KENT St, Dau. of THOMAS OGGLES, WOOL COMBER Wits: DINAH FREER, WILLIAM FOSTER Ummmm..... Was there TWO William Tomkins in Royal Kent Street then ? Let me see if I can pick them up on the 1851 Census. ? MIKE. 1851 HO 107 / 2088 / 392 / 15. 8 FOX LANE Samuel Fox Head M 31 M Chimney Sweep NTT NOTTINGHAM 8 FOX LANE Louisa Fox Wife M 28 F LEI SMGT 8 FOX LANE George Tomkins Lodg U 20 M Journeyman / Sweep LEI SMGT 8 FOX LANE Thomas Hill Appr U 14 M Apprentice LEI DESFORD 8 FOX LANE Thomas Gimson Appr 11 M Apprentice LEI SMGT 8 FOX LANE George Gimson Appr 10 M Apprentice LEI SMGT 8 FOX LANE William Gimson Appr 8 M Apprentice LEI SMGT 8 FOX LANE James Austin Appr 11 M Apprentice LEI SMGT 49 ROYAL EAST STREET Elizabeth Matthews Head U 19 F Glove Stitcher LEI SMGT 49 ROYAL EAST STREET Eliza Gregory Lodg U 19 F Glove Stitcher LEI SMGT And the other one :- 31 NEEDLE GATE Thomas Tomkins Head M 31 M Fwk LEI LEICESTER 31 NEEDLE GATE Selina Tomkins Wife M 35 F Worsted Spinner LEI LEICESTER 18 ROYAL KENT ST Ann Rennie Head W 28 F Mill Wool LEI SMGT 18 ROYAL KENT ST Harriet Rennie Dau 10 F Mill Wool OXF BANBURY 18 ROYAL KENT ST Mary Jane Rennie Dau 7 F LEI ALST

Hello again Mike I'd like to say thanks again for helping me with my Peacocks sometime ago but wondered if I could ask for another favour. :) I'm trying to find the parents of an Ann Waldrom/Waldram who married Christopher Peacock in St margarets Leicester in 1831. Her birth date is approx 1804. I have a family of Waldrams in the St leonard district which I wonder if she belongs to them, but I can't find her birth. I believe Ann registered her illegitimate son William in St leonards in dec 1828. The family of Waldroms I have are parents William born c1766 and Elizabeth born c1781 (not sure about dates for parents though, could be the wrong William and Elizabeth) their children Elizabeth born 1810, Mary born 1812, Eleanor born 1815 and Jane born 1818. Any help would be greatly appreciated : ). Loz P.S Hi to John Tomkins glad to see you're still on the Tomkins hunt :)

Mike Re latest query. Do not think Thomas is George's brother, agreed both sons of a William but William's occupation and address differs within one month of the marriage of Thomas and George. Had George been living with parents on 51 census then I would have no problem. Regards Jon O'Kent Hi Loz Yes still at it, too many George's, Joseph's and William's, driving me round the bend, it is only Mike's help that is keeping me sane !!!! Jon

RIGHT EYES DOWN….. *** F.A.O. *** ….Hilary….. St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Page. No. 294. Entry. No. 2346. 27th. November. 1822. HANNAH Daughter of John & Ann Fern. Navigation Street, Boatman. Richard Barnaby Curate. *** F.A.O *** Jon O’ Kent. Trawled the Register’s 1827 ~ 1834. Best I can come up with :- St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Page. No. 180. Entry. No. 1435. 13th November. 1829. GEORGE TOMKINS. Son of William & ANN Tomkins. Archdeacon Lane. Labourer. A. Slayer. Curate. So we may have to change tack ? *** F.A.O.***…… Elaine. All Saints & Carlton Parish Church. Nailstone. Page. 28. Entry. No. 218. 8th. September. 1829. George Aged 50. Son of Thomas & Hannah Moore. Nailstone. NO Trade given. W. Charles Purton. Curate. MARRIAGES:- All Saints Nailstone. Parish Church. George Moore. Bachelor of the Parish of IBSTOCK. Ann SMITH. Of this Parish. Married following Banns by me :- Thos. Adnatt. Curate. Married this Eight day of November. One Thousand Eight Hundred and One. George signed by his own signature. Ann by her Mark = + Wit’s Sarah Saddler. Joseph Storer. Another interesting Marriage ? Thomas Moore.~ Sarah Newberry. Both of this Parish. ( Nailstone ) 25th. May. 1801. Wit’s George Moore. George Bell. HUGGLESCOTE. Page. 12. Entry. No. 24. 24th Jan. 1843. George Moore. Full Age. Bachelor. Lab. Nailstone. Father George Moore. Lab. Sarah Kendrick. Age. 19. Spinster. Hugglescote. Father. William Kendrick. Lab. George signed by his Signature, Sarah by her Mark = * Following Banns. By Me :- John Bennet. Curate of Ibstock CHRISTENING St. Johns Parish Church Whitwick. Page. 35. Entry No. 279. 31st. Jan. 1816. George Moor Son of George & Ann Moor. Thringstone. Frame Work Knitter. P. Harms. Vicar. **** NOTICE **** THE RECORDS OFFICE HAS EXTENDED THEIR CLOSURE FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS SO THEY WILL BE CLOSED 30TH SEPTEMBER 2006. THROUGH TO OCTOBER 22ND. 2006. this is to upgrade the Public areas.... ( More room to park me bike .....lol ) MIKE.

Greeting’s Again Loz…… I’ve had a whiz round my resources to hand The only Marriage apart from Ann to Christopher Peacock. St. Margaret’s Parish Church ~ 27th Feb. 1831. The only Waldram marriage showing is the following :- William Waldram. ~ Elizabeth TURLINGTON. Quorndon. Leicestershire. 1803. By Banns. (Which is in the right era..? ) Got Ann & Christopher on the 1851. census :- HO 107 . 2090. / 155. / 17. Leicester. St. Margaret’s Parish. Perry’s Yard ( Off North gate) Christopher Peacock Head M 46 M Laborer LONDON Ann Peacock Wife M 45 F Spinner LEICESTER Thomas Peacock Son 18 M Laborer LONDON Christopher Peacock Son 16 M Laborer WATFORD Mark Peacock Son 6 M Scholar SAPERTON Also a Elizabeth Waldrom Wid 71. St. John’s Hospital. High Cross Street. Born……. Black Burton Wessex. 1841. HO 107 / 604. Book 5. / Folder. 6. / Page. 6. Leicester. St. Leonard’s Parish. Abbey gate. Wm. Waldrom 75. Tanner. Yes.= Born within the County. Elizabeth 60. Chairwoman. NO.= Not born within the County. No Sign of those Children though….. I think I need to look at the Parish Registers for both St. Margaret’s & St. Leonard’s to see what details there is…. MIKE.

Mike I am looking for Thomas & Elizabeth Henfrey who I believe were married in St Margarets Leicester in 1832. Come to a dead end about Thomas or where he came from. I went to the LDS library in Salt lake last month while on hols, but couldn't find them in St Margarets, Could you help Josephine

Mike, Thank you so much for that baptism information. If you have marriage transcriptions for St Margaret's, can you possibly have a look for a marriage for John and Ann Fern possibly around 1814. It might just be a long shot however as they were boat people, and other children were baptised at Braunston. Thank you Hilary

Greeting's & Welcome John Lewis.... Confirmation from two separate resources I have to hand MARRIAGE. St. Margaret's Parish Church Leicester. Thomas Henfrey. ~ Elizabeth BALL 17th. January. 1831. By Banns Let me have a look next time I'm at the Records Office for you *** F.A.O. Hillary *** OK I'll have a look at Parish Registers and get back to you MIKE.

Hi Mike Thanks for looking for me. I have to be honest and say that I found the Children on the LDS site. I did think that the William and Elizabeth I found might not be the parents due to the age of William. It's a possiblity that the quorndon marriage could be them. ho hum Thanks again Loz Oh for a bit of originality in the names eh John ; )

Hi Mike YOU ARE MY HERO The christening ties alot of loose ends, George senior's mother being Hannah is by all accounts Hannah Whene, can't be too many people with that surname!!! Big thank you Elaine

Also, Thomas who marries Sarah Newberry is my George's brother Elaine

Mike many thanks, strong possibility George could be child of William and Ann (Clarke) but there is the problem of eleven year gap, will check IGI for any additional siblings Regards Jon O'Kent

“ EYES DOWN FOR THE SECOND ROUND…..” *** F.A.O *** Loz O’ Leicester. Parish Registers St. Leonard’s Parish Church. Page. 33. Entry No. 259. November. 19th. 1831. William Illegitimate Son of Ann Waldrom. ABBEY – GATE. R. Cutton. Curate. St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Page. 119. Entry. No. 356. Christopher Peacock. Bachelor Ann Waldrom. Spinster. Both of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By Me :- N. Bannaman. Curate. This Twentieth Day of February. One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty One. Christopher signed by own Signature. Ann by her Mark = X Wit’s :- Elizabeth Waldrom. By her Mark = X John Markfield. By his Mark = X QUORNDON. Year of 1803. William Waldrom. Bachelor of this Parish. Elizabeth Turlington. Spinster of this Parish. Married following Banns. By Me :- J.W.K. Boyer Minister. Both signed by their Marks = + times two. Wit’s :- Samuel Ayitt. Mary Bostock by her Mark I’m sorry I was not able to make out the date I have ordered to see the original Parish Register from the strong Room for next time I’m there. *** F.A.O.***…… Hilary. I’m sorry but having trawled the Parish Registers for St. Margaret’s Church 1811. Through to 1817. But no Sign of the Marriage of John & Hannah Fern. Sorry….:0(((( *** F.A.O.***……… John Lewis. St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Page. 113. Entry. No. 339. Thomas Henfrey. Bachelor. of this Parish. Elizabeth Ball. Spinster. Of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By Me :- N. Bannaman. Curate. This Seventeenth Day of January One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty one. Thomas signed by his Mark = / Elizabeth signed by her Signature = E. Ball. Wit’s :- John Allen. Edward Thompson. By Mark = + I did check out the Banns but Records stopped 1813. And then restarted 1897. So unable to find the birth place of Thomas. Sorry…….:0((( *** F.A.O. *** Jon O' Kent ... I was ahead of you Mate ..... St. Margaret's Parish Church Page 173. Entry No. 2184. 12 Oct. 1831. Jane Daughter of William & Ann Tomkins Archdeacon Lane Labourer. R. Barnaby. Curate. Also ( Sorry unable to make out Date or Page No.. ) Entry 18. John Son of William & Ann Tomkins Archdeacon Lane. Lab. William Fry Officiating Minister. May I remind you all that Records Office is now CLOSED until The week starting October 22nd.2006. I’ll try and answer other queries But we will have to wait until the Records Office reopens TO CONFIRM any thing that requires details from there. MIKE.

Mike, Thank you so much for looking. Sorry that it was a fruitless task. Hilary

Greeting's Again Hilary..... Well not that fruitless It has eliminated one Church. I did try Braunston in Northamptonshire via the I.G.I. Batch numbers but drew a blank. We had the same problem a while back and came to the conclusion they were just staying in a House in Leicester that was owned by the Northamptonshire owner of the Boat especially during the winter months.... We'll have to keep our eyes open..... MIKE. UPDATED....24.40.HRS. Just noticed on I.G.I. Batch Numbers there is a William Fern. ~ Hannah Latham. 25th. March. 1819. St. Margaret's Parish Church. By Banns. Seeing John & Ann had a daughter named Hannah I think there could be a link there somewhere ? I'll check it out when the Records Office reopens Greeting’s Again Hilary…. Umm……. Different spelling ? Burials found for Welford Road Cemetery. I’ve chosen those which were close to the Canal mooring’s Interestingly… Navigation Road…. Names. / Dates. / Ages./ Last known address. / Parish. / Notes. Fearn --- 31 Jul 1885 Stbn Navigation Street Saint Margaret U Q 236 C 55984 Child Of Sarah Ann Fearn Ada 6 Jul 1882 6mths Navigation Street Saint Margaret U P 850 C 49250 Fearn Ann 5 Sep 1856 73 2 Bedford Street Saint Margaret U O 848 C 4253 Fearn Ann 1 Nov 1870 17 Navigation Street Saint Margaret U R 1208 C 24968 Fearn Benjamin 29 Apr 1882 15wks Navigation Street Saint Margaret U P 850 C 48891 Fearn Ellen 10 Aug 1863 6 Navigation Street Saint Margaret U R 1208 C 12720 Fearn Frederick 17 Dec 1881 1 Navigation Street Saint Margaret U P 850 C 48127 Fearn Herbert 22 Jul 1865 4wks Navigation Street Saint Margaret U R 1208 C 15847 Fearn Jane Elizabeth 29 Jan 1871 16mths Navigation Street Saint Margaret U R 1208 C 25550 Fearn Joseph Arthur 15 Oct 1883 3wks Belgrave Leicestershire U E 493 C 51914 Fearn Mary 2 Feb 1863 17mths Navigation Street Saint Margaret U R 1208 C 11922 Fearn Sarah Ann 13 Oct 1875 26 Leadenhall Street Saint Margaret C N 1329 C 17120 U. = Unconsecrated Ground. Q,P,O,E. = Section. No’s = Plot No’s. C. = Common Plots. No’s = Burial No’s. Stbn. = Still born. MIKE.