Genealogy Chat

Greeting's Again Tom.... Can you clarify the ' Old Papers ' ? Is that Newspapers ? If so I would have thought they would be only viewed via Overhead projectors film. I know they do sell fiches. Last time I knew these were aprox. £3.00 each. So can you clarify then I'll ask for you this week at the Records Office. MIKE.

sorry Mike - yes I meant old newpapers, in particular the bereavement section and 'local news'. thanks.

Hi Mike Was wondering if you had any records for Bagworth. Looking for Sarah Kirkman, looks like I've boobed on her age and should be c1815 not 1825 as I read. Here they are 1851 1851.INDEX ONLY Census. Vol. 23. Index No. 667. = South Thurmaston. WRIGHT. William.40. Sarah. 36. Emily.S. 5. Elizabeth. 5. MARY. E. 2. Camila. 8 Months. Old. Elaine

*** F.A.O. ** …….Jon O’ Kent. Parish Register Transcript Following my visit to the Records Office today. St Margaret's Parish Church. Leicester. Year 1818. Entry No. 870. William Tomkins. Bachelor. of this Parish. Ann Clarke. Spinster. of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By me Thomas Barnaby . Vicar. On this Sixth day of April One Thousand Eight Hundred and Eighteen. Both William & Ann signed by their own Marks = +, X . Wit's:- Richard Stringer. ( Church Staff ? He has signed several certificates ) THOMAS CLARKE. by his Mark = + Hopefully the Thomas above is the Father to Ann ? Hope this is of help to you ? MIKE.

*** F.A.O. *** Tom Connely. Asked on your behalf at the Records Office today……. Looks like it will be personal visit to the Records Office……. They don’t sell CD’s or fiches. All the following Newspapers are as I thought are on Overhead Projector Film. Leicestershire Journal. Leicestershire Chronicle. Ashby De La Zouch New’s. 1862 ~64. Ashby De La Zouch. Advertiser. 1861. ~ 62. Ashby De La Zouch Gazette. 1877. ~ 88. Ashby De La Zouch Times. 1893.~ MIKE.

Greeting's Again Elaine .... Could this be her ? Going on her 1st. name & her 8 months old daughter's name on the 1851 Census -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CAMILLA SARA KIRKMAN Female ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 25 DEC 1816 Bagworth, Leicester, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: ROBERT KIRKMAN. Mother: SARA MIKE. xxx UPDATED ....... Can't see her on the 1841. YET...... That Elizabeth aged 5 on that 1851. Indexed return is in fact daughter of James & Elizabeth Wright who are next door to William & Sarah / Camillia Wright So she would have the same ref No as the others just had a look at the 1851 Census returns on line HO 107 / 2087 / 667 / Page. 14.

thanks Mike - looks like I'll have to plan another trip!

Don't forget your glasses then ...Tom Thoses films can be found close to the overhead projectors & the Parish Register Fiches just before the window which seperates the Second search room MIKE.

Hi Mike Yes sorry I added Elizabeth (no brain yesterday!) Interesting though, found this now Marriages Jun 1839 CLARK Susannah Market Bosworth HICKINBOTHAM William Mt. Bosworth KIRKMAN Camilla Sarah Mkt. Bosworth LAW Absolom Mt. Bosworth Have to keep digging, wrong William!!! just my luck. On Mary Elizabeth's birth cert Sarah Kirkman is given as mother Elaine

Greeting's Again Elaine Have you looked at the following ? 1841. Census. HO 107 / 603. / Book 12./ Folder. 23. Page 40 ~ 41. Bagworth. ( Bagworth is under the village of Thornton ) ABSOLAM Law. 32. Coal Miner. N. Susannah. 32. N. Charles. 2. Y. Eliza. 6 Months Old. Y. 1851. Census HO 107. / 2023. / 311. / Page. 48. Staffordshire. Foriegn Walsall. Absolam Law. 40. Coal Miner. b Broxton Essex. Susannah. Wife. 33. b Wiamgton.Essex. Charles. 12. b Bagworth Leicestershire. Eliza. 10. b Ditto. Eli. 6. b Ditto. George. 2. b Foriegn Walsall. Staff's.

I tried Camilla Law just before I went out, only just got down to sit at the computer now. Wish I could find Sarah 1841 and then maybe I could get somewhere. She must have made an impression if Kirkman was my grandads middle name!. Lots of searching to do but a bit late now Elaine

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Mike Many thanks for the TOMKINS/CLARKE marriage details, was hoping for a TOMKINS witness but will check out the details given. Regards Jon O'Kent

I wonder if anyone has any connection to Melbourne Hall, Leicester? My great grandfather was a missionary in China and was somehow supported by this church. I know they had a newsletter to which he contributed articles about his work in China and they too wrote about him and his family. The names are Frank and Marjorie HARMON and it would be from 1880ish to 1940s. Suzanne

Hi Mike, I'm trying to find the Birth/Christening date for an Edward Blount born 1829 in Leicester. I'm not sure which part of Leicester, as I only have this information from the censuses that I've found him on. Edward is the furthest I've got back to, so anything more on him or any of his ascendents would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time, Stacey.

Hi Mike Are you going to the records office this week? Was hoping you could have a peek at this and tell me which church it was or help me with some background from your vast knowledge. GEORGE MOORE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Adult Christening: 08 SEP 1829 Nailstone, Leicester, England Age at Adult Christening: 50 Batch No CO96331 It seems some of the early Moores are baptists, have chased his son's marriage to Hugglescote and spoke to the Rector who says the marriage according to the wording would be Cof E and then would have been St James's (chapel of ease) which has now been knocked down. That one was 24 Jan 1843 George Moore and Sarah Kendrick Chapel of Hugglescote,Ibstock, Leicester For George the younger have this and think it is C of E looking at a list I have found St. John The Baptist Church, Whitwick. 279 31 July 1816 Moor George son of George and Ann Thringstone Framework Knitter What do you think? Elaine

Mike Should have put these up above too GEORGE MOORE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Adult Christening: 08 SEP 1829 Nailstone, Leicester, England Age at Adult Christening: 50 Batch No CO96331 Spouse: ANN SMITH (George's wife) Marriage: 08 NOV 1801 Nailstone, Leicester, England Batch NO MO96331 Elaine How are you??

Mike If time permits before the closure of Wigston Records, could you please check for the birth Mother of George TOMKINS b c1830 almost certainly St Margarets, his father was William TOMKINS. Many thanks Jon O'Kent

Greeting’s Again Elaine…. What do I think ? ...... Quick nurse…. “ The PROZAC “…lol :0)) From my resources to hand Church Names for Villages mentioned :- HUGGLESCOTE Hugglescote Baptist Church Hugglescote Methodist Church St John the Baptist WHITWICK Greenhill Community Church Hall Lane Methodist Church Holy Cross St John the Baptist Whitwick Baptist Church Whitwick Methodist Church NAILSTONE All Saints & Carlton. THRINGSTON. St. Andrews. Do you still wish me to have a look ? Records Office is CLOSED for one week from 30th. Sept. 06. MIKE.xx

Greeting's Again Jon O ' Kent ..... Got that printed off I'll have a look for you But seeing the year the Register will go something like this :- St. Margaret's Parish Church. Page No. Entry No. Date. George Son of William & ?? Tomkins. (But no Maiden name ) Address Occupation of Father Name of Curate / Vicar bet it's Thomas Barnaby or William Hayton. So if your after the maiden name of William's wife then..... Sorry ..... But just wonder if this is their marriage ? St. Margaret's Parish Church Leicester. 30th. October. 1834. William Tomkins ~ Mary WIDOWSON. By Bans. MIKE.