Genealogy Chat

Greeting’s Again Tom Just gave it a whiz but without the Coleorton as Village But no John _ Ann Marriage showed up But it did throw up the following John ~ ANNE Ayre events though :- Burial John Ayre. Coleorton. 12th. April.1774. NO Age given. Christening’s with Father :- John Ayre. Mother ANNE.:- Thomas Ayre. 12th. April. 1774. Catherine Ayre, 17th. April. 1775. And not sure about this one Seems a bit late ? :- Theresa Ayre. 30th. August. 1790. Father John AYRE. Mother :- ANN Re purchase of disks Link :- www.lrfhs.org.uk Or if you are a member then www.llrfhs.net Scroll down to Publications Then choice to down load List & prices as Word. Or Adobe Files. But BEWARE...... this site as MUSIC So turn down sound or switch it off ( top left hand side) MIKE.

Hi again Mike, I have a Jabez Tomlinson in 1861 census born Breedon Leicestershire and i have found on IGI a christening 1818 in Breedon on the hill. Can you please tell me if these are the same place. Thank you Sylvia

This site gives some interesting history about Breedon... http://www.benefice*org*uk/breedon_church/the_breedon_story/index*php You will see that Breedon was originally in Derbyshire. Jan

Thanks Mike - that info is really helpful. I had some of their other childrens baptisms, but sometimes Ann is called Elizabeth. But I know they are all the same people because I have seen their grave stones (and Theresa is their daughter so thats really great.) Do you know if you have to be a member to buy the disks?

Greeting's Again Tom..... I would think your money is as good as anyone else In any case it's not expensive to join the Society UK Single = £9.50. UK. Family = £10.50. ( you get two tickets ) Overseas = £10.00. These prices are for 12 Months membership payable Dec ~ Jan. time. MIKE.

Greeting’s Again…… Sylvia. There was another one on The I.G.I. Batch Numbers. Indexed as JABUS TOMLESON. Christening :- Jabuz Tomleson. 8th. August. 1830. Breedon – on – the – Hill. Father : Jabus Tomleson. Mother : - Mary. Which is a better match to his age of 30. on the 1861. Census Plus the 1818 Christening has parents John & Elizabeth In 1841. Census Parish of Breedon – on – the – Hill. Hamlet of Tonge. Jabez Tomlinson. 5. Ag lab. Y. MARY. 50. ditto. N. Jabez 11. ditto Y. Y. = YES Born within the County. N. = NO Not born within the County. ( I think a mistake on the 1st Jabez should be 50.) 1851. Census. Hamlet of Tonge. Jabez Tomlinson.64. Ag. Lab. B Breedon. Mary 64. b Draycot, Derbyshire. Jabez. Son 20. Ag. Lab b Breedon. MIKE.

Thanks Mike - have ordered the CD now. (hope it was the right one!)

Hi Mike, I'm not sure how you are geting on with the WHELBANDS. As I said before I am trying to find the link between the Nottingham and Leicester Whelbands. The furthest back that the Nottingham Whelbands go on Ancestry is John Whelband b1789. His place of birth is given as Thurgarton in Nottingham. However, I'm wondering if maybe he said Thurmaston or Thurcaston, and the census man misheard him. When Johns daughters were christened, John and his wife Mary were entered as Welbourn! but his daughters are both Whelbands when they got married. Not sure whether this helps or confuses! Judith

Thank you for that site Jan, its a shame the quarries have distroyed so much. Mike thank you for your help as always, but i`m a but confused as in the 1861 census copy not image i have Jabez is 42 not 30 with wife Rebecca (on IGI marriage 1840 in Surrey Rebeckah Russell) and Jabez jnr age 16 1861 census RG9 2495 folio 46 15 City Road Derby Jabez Tomlinson 42 Breedon, Leicestershire, Head married Wood Sawyer Rebecca Tomlinson 37 Shoreharm, Kent, Wife Married Jabez Tomlinson 16 Derby, Derbyshire, Son Silk Weaver Eliza Tomlinson 14 Derby, Derbyshire, Daughter Silk Weaver Harriet Tomlinson 12 Derby, Derbyshire, Daughter Silk Weaver Laza Tomlinson 10 Derby, Derbyshire, Daughter Rebecca Tomlinson 8 Derby, Derbyshire, Daughter Ann Tomlinson 6 Derby, Derbyshire, Daughter William Tomlinson Under 4 mths Derby, Derbyshire, Son Jabez jnr went on to marry a Sarah Calladine in 1867 I just dont know where this fits in, Christening :- Jabuz Tomleson. 8th. August. 1830. Breedon – on – the – Hill. Father : Jabus Tomleson. Mother : - Mary. Which is a better match to his age of 30. on the 1861. Thank you again Sylvia

Greeting's Again Sylvia..... I'm sorry to have confused you I was only giving a potted History for the other Jabez Tomlinson I had found who I had tracked up to 1861. in Lancashire But now i have found your Jabez from 41 through to the 1861 census which you posted Even if his names differed through out down as Taber and I see he's down as John on the 61. ..... and I could only get him through Rebbecca in 1851...... Sorry again for confusing you MIKE. xx.....Smacks wrist & grabs coat exit's sharp right >>>>>>

No worries Mike, my Tomlinsons have me confused most of the time. I am really looking for a George Tomlinson (occupation blacksmith) and his son John Tomlinson. John Tomlinson supposed to be born Belper Derbyshire 1842/44/50 on different census, i only have `61 upwards, in `61 he was a groom for the rector of Nobury. No trace of either of them before then. Cannot find his birth either. John married Mary Spencer in 1863( my gt grandparents), Little Chester in Derby. Sarah Calladine and John Tomlinson were witnesses. I have the cert. Sarah went on to marry Jabez Tomlinson in 1867 in Little Chester. Now the reason i`m looking at Jabez Tomlinsons family is, someone suggested to me that maybe John Tomlinson was not born in Belper. But the family moved there when he was a baby, so he put Belper on the census. So it got me wondering Could George (Johns father) and Jabez snr be brothers, therefore making John and Jabez jnr cousins. Could George also have come from Breedon and could John have been born there. I hope i havent confused you too. Sylvia

Greeting’s Again Sylvia …. Following my second visit this week to the records Office So nice to meet up again with Auntie Jane ( Jane of Loughborough ) • Waves to Auntie Jane *……. Cooweee Anyway……….. I trawled the Parish Registers for Breedon – on – the – Hill ( which includes the Hamlet of Tonge. ) 1800. through to 1852. Here are the Entries for the Name of Tomlinson. Page.4. Entry. No. 32. 19th. December. 1813. Henry Son of John & Elizabeth Tomlinson. Breedon. Labourer. Geo. J. Foster. Vicar. Page. No. 6. Entry. No. 45. 13th. March. 1814. JOHN Son of Jabus & Mary Tomlinson. Tonge. Labourer. Geo. J. Foster. Vicar. Page.14. Entry. No. 106. 19th. April. 1816. Henry Son of Henry & Frances Tomlinson. Breedon. Farmer. Geo J. Foster. Vicar. Page .No. 15. Entry. 119. 7th. Sept. 1816. JABUS Son of Jabus & Mary Tomlinson. Tonge. Labourer. Geo. J. Foster. Vicar. Page. No. 15. Entry No. 120. 7th. Sept. 1816. Hannah Daughter of Jabus & Mary. Tomlinson. Tonge. Geo. J. Foster. Vicar. BUT there is a BURIAL record worthy of note here. Page. No. 29. Entry No. 226. 17th. April. 1818. JABUS Tomlinson. Aged 2. But No mention of the Parents names …. Geo. J. Foster. Vicar. Page. 24. Entry No. 190. 7th. Nov. 1818. JABUS Son of John & Elizabeth Tomlinson. Breedon. Labourer. Geo. J. Foster. Vicar. Page. 79.Entry No. 627. 8th. August.1830. Jabus Son of Jabus & Mary. Tomlinson. Tonge. Labourer. Geo. J. Foster. Vicar. Page. No. 34. Entry No. 266. 8th. May. 1842. Ann. Parent Mary Tomlinson. ( Base Born Child ? ) Tonge. Charles A. Close. Curate. Page. No. 36. Entry No. 283. 20th. November. 1842. GEORGE HENRY RICHARD. Son of Harry & Frances. Tomlinson. Tonge. Farmer. Charles. A. Close. Curate. Page. No. 38. Entry. No. 207. 2nd.July.1843. GEORGE. Son of John & Mary Tomlinson. Tonge. Labourer. Charles. A. Close. Curate. Page. No. 45. Entry No. 356. 3rd. August. 1845. Hannah Daughter of John & Mary Tomlinson. Tonge. Labourer. Charles A. Close. Curate. Page. No. 53. Entry No. 424. 31st. October. 1847. Thomas. Son of John & Mary. Tomlinson. Tonge. Labourer. Charles A, Close. Curate. So there you have it ….. I’ll leave it up to you to sort Who’s..... Who But hope this is of help to you……… MIKE. xx

Hello Please can you help? I am trying to find the marriage of Joseph Silvester c 1813 and Priscilla Watts c1821, very likely in Loughborough. The 1851 census shows them in Loughborough with their son Joseph Watts Silvester. I have his birth certificate for 6/3/1849 and they appear to be married at this time. Thanks for any help you can give Molly

Mike - thank you very much for the information on the Toons - sorry it's taken me such a long time to acknowledge, but I've had problems accessing my computer. I'm very grateful for your time! Rosemary

Coowee Uncle Mike *******waves back******* hope you didn't stay too long, he he well am off again now, off to Thurmaston Cemetery........ what an exciting life i lead, lol !!!! Jane x

*** Waves back to Auntie Jane. *** You go careful now……. We Don’t want you get involved in “ A dead end Job “….lol….. :0))) No it didn’t take long once I got use to the joined up writing !!! ….. Uncle MIKE. xx

Greetings Mike If you hold marriage details for St Margarets 1818, could you please check if parents are noted for William TOMKINS marriage to Ann CLARKE 6 Apr 1818. Many thanks Jon O'Kent

*** Jon O'Kent *** I can confirm the marriage did take place ( By two separate sources ) 06 APR 1818 Saint Margaret, Leicester, Leicester, England I've printed off YOUR details and ti's on my list for this coming week at the Records Office. ' WATCH THIS SPACE '............ MIKE.

Thank you so much Mike, you are an angel.I will study them in the morning, when the computers not on. Sylvia

hi Mike - do you know if old papers from Coleorton / Ashby De la Zouch are available to buy on a CD or available at the records office? In particular bereavements from 1830 - 1880. As you know I live in Leeds so it is a bit of a way to go. thanks.,