Genealogy Chat

hi mike thankyou loads for finding all this info not just for me but everyone on here can i ask what you do for a living are you a geneaolgist or is it just a hobby sarah

Mike If you are at the Records office tomorrow, could you possibly look up these 2 entries Amina Leonora Ward d o buriel 2/4/1879 age 6 months Raglan St St Mary buriel no 42088 George Isacc d o buriel 15/3/1871 age 3 months Royal East St Leics St Margaret buriel no 25792 both buried in a grave of 5 Wards at Welford Road. To be honest I am more interested in their baptisms if you have anything on your discs to see if they are children of William Ward and Mary Ann Hope you are keeping well Elaine

hi again mike found out that the name pickering was elizabeths maiden name born woodville 1878.and fred and elizabeth lived on landseer road which is off welford road.

THANKS AGAIN MIKE YOU HAVE THE FAMILY IN 1881 WITH WILLIAM HOWKINS AND ALICE WHERE MY GRANDAD HORACE GOT HIS MIDDLE NAME FROM I DONT KNOW DO YOU THINK IS WAS A SURNAME SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE BY WHAT YOU HAVE FOUND IL TRY AND FIND OUT ABOUT PICKERING NAME THANKS ONCE AGAIN YOUR A STAR

Greeting’s Again Sarah..... Sorry for my delay....Church Steward Duties to day... Hit & Miss I’m afraid..... Got Fred on 1901. Census with his wife Elizabeth Living on the Welford Road within the Parish of St. Mary Magdalene Knighton. Fred Aged 25. Bricklayer b Narborough Elizabeth aged 23. b Woodville ( Part of Ashby De la Zouch District.) Not found him on the 1891. Census…… yet But..... 1881. Census :- RG 11. / 3129. / 86. / Page. 14. Narborough. William Howkins. Head. Mar. 36. Stocking Frame Work Knitter b Littlethorpe Leicestershire. Alice Wife. 35. Ditto b Narborough. Leicestershire. Harvey. Son. 9. Scholar b Narborough. Rose. Dau. 7. Ditto b Ditto. FRED. Son. 5. Ditto b Narborough. George. Son. 3. b Ditto. Ernest. Son 1. b Ditto. Further Siblings to William & Alice found :- Christening’s Ethel Howkins. 6th. February 1887. Narborough. Father :- William. Mother. Alice. Also on the same day :- Sweny Howkins. 6th. February. 1887. Narborough. Father William. Mother:- Alice. Birth Record found for Fred Howkins:- Jan. ~ Feb. ~ Mar. Qrt. 1876. Fred Howkins. Blaby District ( which covers Narborough ) Cert. No. 7a. 51. Possible Marriage of Fred ? Sept Quarter 1900. Fred Howkins. ~ ??? Ashby De la Zouch District ( which would cover Woodville ) Cert No. 7a. 236. But when you see who else is on that page There are 3 Males but only 2 Females. …..Grrr…:0(((( Rebecca Alice Bakewell. Or Rosa Smart. Rosa Smart is 10 years old on the 1891. Census. ( Woodville) But living with Grand Mother Maria Smart age 68. born Ticknall Derbyshire. So no clues as to parents of Rosa there then ...:0(((( Not able to trace Rebecca Bakewell. …… yet. Birth found :- Jan. ~ Feb. ~ Mar. Qrt. 1906. Horace Pickering Howkins. Leicester. Cert No. 7a. 308. Taking the middle name of Horace = Pickering I see that there are two Elizabeth Pickering Marring Sept Qrt. 1900. In Ashby De La Zouch District Cert No. 7a. 235. ( next one to 7a. 236 for Fred ...ummmm ? ) and cert No. 7a 243. Let my look around for a few days and see what else I can come up with ? MIKE. UPDATED ....01.59. 1891. Census returns RG 11./ 2509. / 15. / Page. 20. Blackfordby. Burton Road. Willoughby Pickering. Head. Mar. 48. Clay Miner. B Blackfordby. Elizabeth Wife, 48. b Woodville. Willoughby Son. 22. Clay Miner. B Ditto. Joseph. Son. 20. Ditto. b Ditto. Arthur. Son. 18. Ditto b Ditto. ELIZABETH. Dau. 15. Scholar. b Ditto. John Son. 12.Ditto b Ditto. Mary. Dau. 10. Ditto b Ditto. Rose. Dau. 9. Ditto b Ditto. Jonathan. Son. 7. Ditto b Ditto.

hi mike sorry to ask again looking for my grandads side howkins his name horace howkins born march 1906 naraborough leicester mother elizabeth howkins b 1878 woodville leicester father fred howkins born 1876 narborough any information would help me plz

Greeting’s again Sarah….. It might not be the Town of Market Harborough it’s self. I think it could well be the small Village “ Great Bowden”…. Just on the north east out skirts of Harborough which would be within the District of Market Harborough. Whilst trawling those Birth Records till the wee small hours this morning I checked out Great Bowden and there is a few Burdett’s living there on the 1901. Census returns……NO Burdetts in Harborough it's serlf Harry 36 & Kate 32. there is also an intering one...... ANN Burdett. 82. Widow born OLTON Warwickshire OLTON = sound alike to Horton ? Do you have the Marriage certificate of Frederick & Ivy ? It hopefully would have Ivy’s age on it & her Father’s name that way it might help us to identify her for certain. If it is the one I found then it would make her 27 in 1941 when she married Frederick MIKE.

thanks mike i have fredrick j a burdett reg leicester june quater born 1921 mothers maiden name durham is it likely that ivy was born 7 years before him do you think market harborough is where florance burdett was born so it seems that the ivy goddard born 1914 is who my friend is looking for ???

Greeting’s Again Sarah…… Trawled G.R.O Index Birth Records. :- 1900. through to 1926. 1903. Jan. Feb. Apr. Qrt. IVY. LILIAN. GODDARD. Leicester. Cert No. 7a. 320. Same period. LILIAN. IVY. GODDARD. Blaby District Cert No. 7a. 30. It was not till 1911. that Mother’s Maiden name was given. 1914. Jul.~ Aug. ~ Sept. 1914. IVY. M. GODDARD. Market Harborough. Cert No. 7a. 19. Mother’s Maiden Name = WHITBREAD. MARRIAGES. :- Sept.Qrt. 1941. Frederick J.A. Burdett. ~ Ivy Goddard. MKT. Harborough District. Cert No. 7a. 42. BIRTH. July. Aug. Sept. Qrt. 1942. Florence A. Burdett. MKT. Harborough. Cert. No. 7a.12. Mother’s Maiden Name = Goddard. MIKE.

Only one birth for Ivy so far: Mar 1903 Goddard Ivy Lilian Leicester 7a 320

Births for Frederick Burdett up to the year shown (from freebmd - there may be more to be transcribed) Jun 1894 Burdett Frederick Joseph Leicester 7a 303 Mar 1896 BURDETT Frederick George Billesdon 7a 23 Jun 1902 Burdett Frederick Arthur Melton M. 7a 339 Dec 1902 Burdett Frederick Lawrence Leicester 7a 174 Jun 1903 Burdett Frederick Leicester 7a 306 Jun 1904 Burdett Frederick Charles Rugby 6d 610 Burdett Frederick Cyril Melton M. 7a 344 Sep 1904 BURDETT Frederick William Leicester 7a 239 Mar 1907 BURDETT Frederick Lutterworth 7a 5

hi mike looking for a friend on this one his mums name was florance ann burdett born in 1942 market harborough leicestershire her parents were frederick j a burdett and ivy goddard they got marrind in sept quater 1941 and would like information on their births maybe born early 1900s not sure what year they were born or where think leicestershire . horton was the maiden name of ivy goddards mother but that all i know many thanks if you can help me we this

mike many thanks for the info i know that nathaniel clarke b 1851 married a mary barsby june 1873 but as for john clarke b 1830 who married a mary sadly i dont know her maiden name it would be fantastic if you could look at records office for me like i said thankyou so much for all your help it means alot to me sarah

*** F.A.O. ***……. Sarah. Glad we have now Identified them…… So…. 1851. Census. HO 107. / 2087. / 286. / Page. 7. St. Paul’s Parish Woodhouse. Eaves Street. Thomas Clarke. Head Mar. 63. Stocking Maker b NARBOROUGH. Leicestershire. Ann Wife.62. b Woodhouse. JOHN. Son. 22. Stocking Maker. b. Woodhouse. William. Son. 16. Ditto. b Woodhouse. Jessie Clarke. Gr/Son. 9. Base Born. b. Woodhouse. BASE BORN = Illegitimate. 1861. Census. RG 9. / 2280. / 106. / Page. 8. St. Paul’s Parish. Woodhouse. Eaves Street. JOHN CLARKE. Head Mar. 32. Mason's Lab. Mary. Wife. 30. Lab’s Wife. NATHANIEL Son. 9. Scholar. Anne, Dau. 5. Ditto. Samuel. Son. 2. ALL above Born Woodhouse. So I see that Thomas was born NARBOROUGH Leicestershire So had to switch to this Parish for Christening & Parents. THREE choices……. ( 1. ) Thomas Clark. 18th. August. 1787. Narborough. Father :- Joseph. Mother :- Elizabeth. ( 2. ) Thomas Clark. 11th. May. 1788. Narborough. Father :- John. Mother :- Elizabeth. ( 3. ) Thomas Clark. 29th. July. 1798. Narborough. Father :- Joseph. Mother:- Elizabeth. I would go for No. 2. which would match up with age ( 63 ) on 1851.Census. Also bare in mind that the enumerator’s on the 1841. Census Were told to round DOWN the ages of those over 15 to the nearest multiples of 5. …….(e.g.) 53 = 50.Age stated on 1841. Census. Also it stated that Thomas was born within the County of Leicestershire which Narborough is……. Interesting CLARK Burials found for Narborough :- Names. / Dates./ Notes.:- Clark * Elizabeth 20 Dec 1829 75 WIFE OF JOHN Clark * John 3 Dec 1837 79 WIDOWER NOW….. CHRISTENING & MARRIAGES………. Oct.~ Nov.~ Dec. Quarter 1851. NATHANIEL CLARKE. Barrow Upon Soar District ( which covers Woodhouse.) Certificate No. XV. 32. Aprox 9 months before above MARRIAGE. April.~ May. ~ June. Quarter. 1851. John Clarke. Barrow Upon Soar District. Certificate No. XV. 55. Not knowing the maiden Name of Johns Wife Mary So could not cross ref it in order to confirm it. The small Certificate Ref. No's indicate it was a small Village = Woodhouse ? and not Barrow Upon Soar Village which would have had bigger No's at this time ... I can look up the early Christening’s Register’s & Marriage Registers for you next week at Wigston Records Office, and get back to you. …… MIKE.

THANKS MIKE YOUVE FOUND THEM ITS THE THOMAS CLARKE C 1791 AND ANN HARRIMAN C 1791 1ST NOV 1811 IN THE 1841 CENSUS YOU FOUND THEIR KIDS ONE OF THEM A JOHN CLARKE C 1830 HES THE LINK TO MY FAMILY HE HAD A SON NATHANIEL CLARKE C 1852 SO COULD YOU CHECK IT OUT AND CONFIRM IT FOR ME AND LOOK FOR THOMAS CLARKE C 1791 PARENTS AND ANN HARRIMANS C 1791 WOULD BE MOST GRATEFULL MANY THANKS MIKE

Greeting’s Again Sarah. …. Umm….Woodhouse is a Grey area ? We have TWO Woodhouse’s 1. ) Woodhouse. ( formerly known as Nether Town ) 2. ) Woodhouse Eaves. BOTH within the Parish of Barrow Upon Soar. And only 1.Mile apart. So will have a look at Barrow another time So concentrated on the Woodhouse & Woodhouse Eaves. Early Marriages found :- St Mary in the Elm.Parish Church. Woodhouse. ALL By Banns. Thomas Clarke.~ Elizabeth GRIMSON. 18th. May. 1714. (Both of Swithland.) William Clarke. ~ Hannah DERRY. 30th.Jul. 1726. Thomas Clarke. ~ Annie BREEDEN. 28th. May. 1748. Richard Clarke. ~ Dianah HALL.16th. jun. 1758. Samuel Clarke ~ Elizabeth DERRY. 16th.Feb. 1773. (He of Swithland.) Stephen Clarke. ~ Ann SQUIRES.1st. Nov. 1778. THOMAS CLARKE. ~ ANN HARRIMAN. 2nd. Sept. 1811. Sorry early Christening's shown from 1811 ONLY CLARKE Families found on 1841. Census.:- Woodhouse.:- HO 107 / 594. / 9. / 13. / Page. 3. John Clarke. 57. Lab Slate Quarryman. Martha. 50. John. 18. HO 107. / 594. / 9./ 20./ Page. 17. Elizabeth Clarke. 50. HO 107./ 594. / 9. / 21. / Page.19. William Clarke.35. Lab. Slate Quarryman. Sarah. 40. Mary. 13. Rachel. 8. William. 3. Susan. 3. John. 10 Months Old. ALL above Born within the County. Woodhouse Eaves. HO 107. / 954. / 10. / 30./ Page. 8. John Clarke. 70. Ag. Lab. Ann. 70. HO 107./ 954./ 10./ 31. / Page.10. Sarah Clarke. 40. 10. / 31. / Page. 19. THOMAS CLARKE. 50. ( c 1791. ) F.W.K. Ann. 50. (née Harriman ? ) Ditto. Mary. 20. Ditto. Thomas. 15. Ditto. John. 14. Ditto. William. 5. F.W.K = Frame Work Knitter. Next door within the household of John Simpson Farmer. William Clarke 7. Farm Servant. 10. / 37. / Page. 22. Thomas Clarke. 45. Ag. Lab. NOT born within the County. Elizabeth. 35. James. 13. John. 10. Joseph. 6. William. 3. All others born within the County. 10. / 39. / Page. 26. George Clarke.40. Ag. Lab. Sarah. 35. George. 11. Joseph. 10. William. 7. Sarah. 6. John. 1. All above Born within the County. Woodhouse Eaves Burials found :- St Paul’s Parish Church. Names. / Dates. / Ages. / Notes. Clarke William 10 Jan 1851 12 Clarke Anne 22 Mar 1851 73 Clarke Thomas 4 Feb 1853 61 Clarke William 20 Feb 1855 3wks Clarke John 24 Mar 1856 Abt 70 Abode Brand Clarke Thomas 3 Jul 1856 34 Clarke Maria 2 Jan 1860 3 Clarke William 25 Nov 1862 -- Abode Mountsorrel Union Clarke Fanny 27 Apr 1863 19 Clarke William 30 Sept 1866 18mths Clarke Hannah 27 Jul 1869 22 Clarke Sarah 6 Mar 1877 82 Clarke John 5 Apr 1877 45 Clarke Elizabeth 21 Mar 1883 75 Died .16th Clerk George 14 Mar 1847 19days Hope this is a help MIKE.

Greetings Mike Can you please help with a birth query, Samuel TOMKINS b c1826 Leicester St Margarets, would like parents details if possible. Regards Jon O'Kent

hi mike would you look for me the parents of thomas clarke b 1791 woodhouse leicestershire plz as i cant get access to many sites on here thanks

hi mike could you help me look for a thomas clarke he was born 1791 woodhouse or barrow on soar would love to find who his parents were or any information on the clarkes in woodhouse thanks

Hi Mike Another shot in the dark definately, have a new contact as her mother recognised some family photo's of mine as being her relations. The hard part is we don't know how we are connected but we have a Charles William Humphry Ward we are trying to find like mad whose father is called John. In 1909 this Charles married Emily Barrett in Paddington, he was 50 and she was 23, this was his second marriage and on his daughter's birth cert the following May, his name is given as Charles Humphry Ward. Occupations on the marriage cert give Charles as a wagon repairer for G W Railway and his father John is a shepherd. Even with my accumulation of Wards I don't have a John that fits in my family so wondered if on any of your discs you could give me a starting point. Haven't found anything on St Margs and don't even know if they were in Leicester. Have waited this long to ask because I can trace the Barretts alright but not Charles and I am stuck. Thanks as always Elaine