Genealogy Chat

hi mike thankyou for the information with what you have found seems right than the other info that i found myself have you got the info from your friend yet on the pickerings ? howkins yet that you said they were looking for for you ?? sarah

*** F.A.O. *** Sarah Wragg. Sorry for the delay but I had logged out by the time of your message Last week. So I did not pick it up until I Had returned from the Records Office last week … Right I agree with the conformation from Parish Registers Christening of Richard Barsby. 5th November 1788. St John the Baptist Church. Hungarton. Father :- John Barsby. Mother :- Mary. B. Clarke. Vicar. Not sure about your Marriage of John Barsby ~ MARY Johnson. 30th.January 1789..Ilston – on – the – Hill. This would make Richard Base born ? and Mothers Christan name is wrong ? The Parish Registers of Ilston - on - the - Hill. as it down as :- St. Michael & All Angels Parish Church. ANNO DOMINI.~ 1789. John Barsby. Of this Parish. ANN JOHNSON of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By Me :- John Valentine. Curate. Thirtieth Day of January. One Thousand Seven Hundred & Eighty Nine. Wit’s :- John Percival. & William Harrington. John signed by his Mark = X Ann by her own signature. VERY Clear ANN. More likely to be :- ANNO DOMINI. ~ 1779. St. John the Baptist Parish Church Hungarton. Entry No. 3. John Barsby ~ MARY CHAMBERS Both of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By Me B. Clarke Vicar. This Sixth Day of September One Thousand Seven Hundred & Seventy Nine. Wits :- William Orton. Thomas King. This makes the Father & Mother’s christening names right for Richard ? Your other inquiry…… The ONLY John Barsby Christened Ilston – on – the – Hill. Within the years you quoted is as follows John Barsby. 2nd. February. 1763. Ilston – on – the – Hill Father :- EDWARD Barsby. Mother :- Sarah. MIKE.

hi mike hope you are well have you any more info yet for me been doing bits myself when i can but iv been busy this week with my kids my girl has got hearing aids now because of the treatment she has had for her tumour that was in her head sarah

Hi Mike. Thanks for that info. I guess my thinking is that he may have been christened / born in a neighbouring village. Unfortunatley - frustratingly - I can't tie all these other Hipwells in until I know which particular branch he sprung from. Looking at various census (I have a subscription to Ancestry) there are Hipwells in Warwickshire / Northamptonshire. My Hipwells weren't known for their wealth - so it makes me wonder if they just couldn't afford to have him christened at all! Angela

Greeting’s Again Angela……… I’ve had a look around for you in both Villages Lilbourne & Clifton Upon Dunsmore via the I.G.I. Batch numbers…. If I was you I would start at Warwickshire Records Office. There is a Christening for a :- William Hipwell 19th. March. 1872. Clifton – Upon – Dunsmore. Father :- Benjamin Hipwell. Mother :- Sarah. But NO Hipwell events shown up for Lilbourne.Northamptonshire. Not sure if you have access to the 1841. census … But here is my search results:- 1841. Census Returns :- HO 107. 800. / Bk. 13./ Folder.4. Warwickshire. Clifton- Upon – Dunsmore. Within the Village Page 1. Left Hand page. 5th Family down. Thomas Hipwell 60. Frame Work Knitter. Y. Sarah. Ditto. 61. N. BENJAMIN. Ditto. 25. Journeyman. Y. Henry. Ditto. 20. Ditto. Y. Y. – YES Born within the County. N. = NO. Not Born within the County. Do not put anything in the ' Keyword box' the Hipwell's have not been indexed So .... Only put 800. / 13. / 4. In your search Box Again NO Hipwell families found in Lilbourne for 1841. Don’t forget that before 1837 You will not find the actual birth date ( unless the Vicar was kind enough to record it ) Just the Christening / Baptism event Which would have cost them 3d. which was a big outlay in those days. MIKE.

Hi Angela Your welcome we all like to try and help each other Bev

Hi Beverley Thanks for taking an interest in my problem. Actually you are spot on - that is my Benjamin Hipwell in the 1881 census with his second wife Hannah (nee Birch). He died in 1884 so will not appear on any later census. The main problem I have at the moment is finding an actual birth for him. Mike has kindly confirmed that he does not appear on the Catthorpe (the available ones anyway) or Swinford parish registers. I think I may need to visit Northamptonshire Records Office to check for births in Lilbourne and return to Warwick Records Office to check out Clifton-on-Dunsmore. Mike - I know how the enumarator must have felt!! Yes, I think there are a few chips in that wall now. Thanks Angela

Hi Mike and Angela I might be way off the track but it might be worth a thought. There is a Benjamin Hipwell on 1881 Census with wife Hannah born 1824 Carthorpe Warwickshire. Occ Bricklayer. Seeing how Carthorpe and Catthorpe look similar Bev

Greeting’s Again Angela…….. If you saw the state of those Parish Registers of the Vicar / Curate You begin to wonder if your Idea of every Hipwell was Baptised William Would not be far off …..lol :0)))) Plus…… It most have drove the enumerator of the 1841 Census. …. MAD. In just two pages for Catthorpe returns there is THREE William Hipwell’s :- HO107. / 597. / Bk. 14. / Folder. 5. / Pages 3. ~ 5. Page 3. Catthorpe William Hipwell.( Jnr) 30. Ag. Lab. Y. Catherine. 20. N. John. 4. Y. Sarah. 1. Page. 5. Catthorpe. William Hipwell. 70. Stocking Maker. N. Jane. 65. Y. Fanny. 17. Y Few doors down William Hipwell ( Snr ) 65. Ag. Lab. Y. Y. = YES Born within the County. N. = NO. Not Born within the County. Don’t be too down hearted….. I would like to think we’ve put a small dent in that wall …… MIKE.

Hi Mike That was quick!! Thanks for taking the time to look for me. Maybe I ought to double check the death of the Benjamin Hipwell born in 1832, evan though his father's name was Joseph. There seem to be so many William Hipwells that I'm starting to wonder if all male Hipwells were called William - but then chose a name they preffered in later life. (I am joking - I think) Ah well the wall still stands for the time being. Many Thanks Angela

Greeting’s Again………. Angela. OH Dear…..What a mess the Catthorpe Parish Registers were in at the Records Office. …… Seems there is loads of events missing. ……GR……:0((((. Baptisms entries stared. ….1797. ~ 1912. Then a gap of missing events Then restarts 1929 ~ 1935. Then NOTHING I did spot the baptism of :- St. Thomas Parish Church. Catthorpe 27th. April. 1832 Benjamin Hipwell. Son of Joseph & Mary Hipwell. But I did NOT spot his burial you mentioned for a few weeks later. Above Marriage :- St. Thomas Parish Church Catthorpe. Page 4. Entry No. 11. 19th. Nov. 1821. Joseph & Mary BARRIT Both of this Parish Both signed by own signatures Married by Banns By Thomas Smith Rector of Clay Cotton. Wit’s :- Elizabeth Hipwell, John Deacon ( who seems to be a Church warden signed several Registers) I did search SWINFORD Registers but drew a blank sorry to say……. May be in time the missing registers will appear ? …..Sorry But if we can help further then do get in touch again And in the meantime I’ll keep my eyes open…….. just in case. MIKE.

Mike That is very interesting. Thankyou. I am grateful for your help and I wait in anticipation to see if you are able to trace his parents. Many Thanks Angela P.S. yes he was a bricklayer/ bricklayers labourer

hi mike next time you go to the records office can you check this out for me i know this richard barsby 8th nov 1788 hungerton father john barsby mother mary?? marriage john barsby mary johnson 30th january 1789 ilston on the hill ( which iv found out is near melton mowbrary) could you please look at the parish records for me for john barsby 1764?? in the melton hungerton areas plz and see if his dad was a thomas barsby born 1715 maybe married a elizabeth quainton?? many thanks sarah

Greeting’s & Welcome. ……. Angela…. We are talking about the Benjamin Hipwell the Bricklayer ? 1st. …. Sorry for the delay but it needed a second opinion of a very “ Good friend Elaine “ from this site on the 1841 Census returns. We both are sure there was a miss translation of the details regarding his age. Making Benjamin aged 16. & working as a Male Servant within the household of Elizabeth Watthan aged 43 a Widow born outside the County. And living next door to a Joseph (50) & Sarah (50) Hipwell in the Village of Swinford. So….. if this information is correct…then it puts it BEFORE Registrations began in 1837….So I’ll have to look at the Parish Baptism Registers at Wigston. Hopefully this will give us the names of Benjamin’s parents…… The thought crossed my mind if Benjamin’s parents died whilst he was young & he was brought up by a relative also named Hipwell ( William ) ? As soon as I have further information for you I’ll post it back on here….. MIKE.

Hi I wonder if anyone could help me. I have been searching for a birth for my g g grandfather Benjamin Hipwell. On all censi he states he was born in Catthorpe - the year of birth changes a bit - from 1824/5 to 1828. I have searched for births in Catthorpe, Swinford and Lutterworth, but no joy. He married twice and both times he states his father as being William Hipwell. There was a birth in 1832 but this child died a few weeks later. Please can anyone help? Many Thanks Angela

Thanks Mike, have ordered the death cert, maybe there will be a middle name!!! Elaine

hi mike its john henry clarke and gertude weston(clarke) thanks for looking for me sarah

*** F.A.O.***....... Sarah Wragg. Update..... I've searched 12 of the Parishes in Blaby District But not found marriage of Henry & Gertrude. 1906..... YET Only another 26 to go. ........ MIKE.

*** F.A.O.***..... Elaine. WE HAVE LIFT OFF ...... Parish Burial Registers St. George's Church Leicester. Reads Thus :- 1842. Page. 281. Entry. No. 2246. 21st. Feb. Ann. Wife of the Late JONAS WARD. Rutland Street. Aged. 48. A.R. Harrison. Asst. Curate. MIKE. xx

That would be great if you have time, Thank you Elaine