Genealogy Chat

Greeting's Again Cinda..... ' Your very Welcome ....' Not too sure of your hourly rate though ? One hours work = 1 Cream Cake. ...Ummm ? Is this BELOW the minimum hourly Rate I ask myself ? .....:0(((( MIKE. xx

Mike Once again many thanks - looks interesting -, was giving me a major headache Regards Jon O'Kent

Mike, that's wonderful! Thank you so much for all your help, I shall set aside an hour soon to go through it all, I can't imagine how long it took you to look it all up, but you've saved me a helluva journey to Leicestershire. Hmmm...maybe I will go anyway and have a look at Castle Donnington and Ashby! Sterling work mate! I owe you a cream cake, don't forget !! If ever I can help in Worcester or Birmingham libraries/History centres, let me know. Cindi

Hi Mikes just pointed out there are 2 threads who are we looking for in Leicester part Eleven. Ive sent a message to ask if they will remove it or else we will get mixed up. so will you please keep using this thread or else as Mike said he will need a bigger bottle of Prozac Best wishes Bev

Greeting’s…….. Jon O ‘ Kent. Trawled St. Margaret’s Parish Christening’s Dec.1833. ~ June. 1837. The only JOSEPH > TOMKINS :- Page. 165. Entry. No. 1317. 22. Nov 1837. Joseph Son of Samuel & Elizabeth TOMKINS. Needle Street. Frame Work Knitter. Possible Siblings to above. Page. 188. Entry 1503. 16th. Sept. 1835. Alfred Son of Samuel & Elizabeth TOMKINS. Sanvey-gate. FWK. Page. 69. 22.nd Jan. 1834. Entry. 550.Elizabeth. Dau of Samuel & Elizabeth. Entry 551. William Son of Samuel & Elizabeth. Needle Street. FWK. The only JOSEPH > Father Joseph.:- Page. 130. Entry. 1038. 3rd. Dec. 1834. Joseph Son of Joseph & Sarah TOMPSON. Orchard Street. FWK. JOSEPH TOMKINS LOOK / SOUND ALIKE & Right year c1836 :- Page. 40. Entry.320. 16th. June. 1836. Joseph Son of James & Eliza. TOMSON / SIMSON. ( very faint image not sure if it was TO or SI ) Sanvey – gate. FWK. MIKE.

nudged to be ahead of the other thread 11 so we don't get confused Elaine

*** F.A.O. ^^^ Cindi. EYES DOWN……….. St.Edward. King and Martyrs Parish Church. Castle Donnington. From The BOOKS of Baptism Registers. 233 years old ...white glove job ...Oh Ar.... Page BAPTISMS 1773. AD. MARTHA. BASE BORN Daughter of Catherine CHARLESWORTH 17TH.June. BURIED 12 Dec 1789. Daughter of Catherine Charlesworth. Page BAPTISMS 1780. AD, MARTHA Daughter of John & Catherine CHARLESWORTH 29th. August. Page BAPTISMS 1782. AD. ANN Daughter of John & Catherine CHARLESWORTH. 26th. July. Page BAPTISMS 1786 AD. MARY Daughter of John & Catherine CHARLSWORTH 13th. Dec. Page BAPTISMS 1788. AD. CATHARINE Daughter of John & Catherine CHARLSWORTH . 13th. May. Page BAPTISMS 1790 AD. JOHN WILLIAMS Son of John & Catherine CHARLESWORTH 8th. April. Page BAPTISMS 1793. AD. GEORGE THOS Son of John & Catherine. CHARLESWORTH. 2nd. June. Page 1 BAPTISMS 1796. AD. THOMAS Son of John & Catherine CHARLESWORTH 19th. Feb. Page. BAPTISMS 1798. AD. MARIA Daughter of John & Catherine CHARLESWORTH 7th. Sept. Page BAPTISMS 1801. AD. WM . Son of John & Catherine CHARLESWORTH 28th. April. John Eddowes was the curate for all above events. Sorry they had not started to use the forms which had a column for Father’s Occupation. :0((((( MARRIAGES.......Reading from Fiches St. Edward King & Martyrs Parish Church. Castle Donnington. Page. Marriages 1780 A D. Entry No. 272. John Charlesworth . Bachelor. of this Parish. Catherine TWELLS. Spinster. of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By me:- John Dalby Vicar. On this Twenty Eighth day of February One Thousand Seven Hundred Eighty. Both John & Catherine signed by their own Signatures. Wit's:- George Wright. Josh Ballard. ( Church Wardens ) Interesting entry ? ENTRY No 277. John TWELLS. ~ Sarah SMITH. 20th. June 1780. Banns Signed by own Marks + times two. Same Wits. Page.18. Marriages 1816 A D. Entry No. 53.. John Charlesworth . Bachelor. of this Parish. Jane LICKESS. Spinster. of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By me:-Thomas Dalley Vicar. On this Sixth day of July One Thousand Eight Hundred Sixteen. John Signed by his own Mark = + Jane signed by their own Signature. Wit's:- Tho. Robb ?...... Elizabeth Bennet. Head Archivist & two Liberians all agree it was LICKESS. Her clear signature clinched it for sure..... Entry 52. = Joseph TWELLS. ~ Elizabeth Brown.24th. June 1816. Entry 54. Thomas TWELLS. ~ Elizabeth HALL. 26th. July 1816. Hope this helps you….. “ Pheeeeew”…..Going for a lay down now....... MIKE. xx

Greetings again Mike Can you please help with the birth parents for Joseph TOMKINS b c1836 father was possibly Thomas, mothers details would be most helpful. (this Joseph not to be confused with Joseph b1838). St Margarets parish almost certain. Many thanks Jon O'Kent

Thanks Mike, those are the lookups I want - Jane Sickess was listed at various times as Lickiss/Lickess/Lickliss as well (such fun!) I have a list of the other children, but John moved to Birmingham according to the 1841 census and I've concentrated on him. You DON'T DRINK????? Are you ill or something :>) lol. I'll have to buy you a cream cake - now, if you don't eat cream cakes I'll know there's something seriously wrong!!!! Look forward to hearing from you Cynthia

Greeting’s Again…… Cindi. * Lol…., Your onto a winner there...... I DON’T drink …..lol :0)))) * OK….. Just to confirm look up’s required ……. CHRISTENING. John William Charlesworth. 8TH. APRIL 1790. Castle Donnington. Father :- John Charlesworth Mother :- Catherine. Also check out the other NINE children. 1773. ~ 1801 Who seem to be children. of John & Catherine Charlesworth Via I.G.I. Batch No’s. Also MARRIAGE. John Charlesworth. ~ Jane SICKESS. 6th. June. 1816. Castle Donnington. And time permitting…. John Charlesworth. ~ Catherine TWELLS. 28th. February. 1780. Ashby De La Zouch. If this the right one then some of those Christeng would make it interesting ... The 1773 one just had Catherine Charlesworth No Father given...... Ummm :0/ In the meantime…Have you looked at the OTHER John & Jane Charlesworth on the 1841. Census ? HO 107. / 584./ Book. 4. / Folder. 5. / Page. 5. Keyword = Charlesworth In Ashby De la Zouch. Prior Park. MIKE. xx

Mike, Anything that you find can be of use, even the most basic stuff. I have John Charlesworth (b1790 Castle Donnington) and know he married Jane Lickiss, but I don't know anything else apart from (I think!) he was a boatman (1841 census he was living on 'Towing Path' Birmingham) I have no details of HIS father, but John Charlesworth of Ashby de la Zouch (married Catherine Twells) is the favourite. Lots of guesswork here I'm afraid, so absolutely anything would be good (I'll buy you a pint or six)!!!!!! Cynthia

Greeting's Again Cindi..... Seeing the early dates Then the details Will only be basic Names of child / Parents / Occupation of Father & address or Village Name of Church official who performed the event But at less that will comfirm the right Parents.... MIKE.

No rush Mike, I'm just grateful for any help, finding it difficult to move on don't-you-know *sob* (yeah, well.....)

Greeting's Again..... Cindi Whoops....anoversight on my behalf Can't get the staff you know...:0((( I'll get onto it this week and get back to you. With hopefully confirmation & a bit more info...... Sorry Again..... MIKE.

Hi, Any luck with my Charlesworth boat people, now that the Wigston RO has re-opened? You gave me a lovely long list on 7/10/06, but I already had that info from the IGI. They're the Charlesworths from Castle Donnington and Ashby and I was specifically looking for info on John Charlesworth's parents. John was born b1790 Castle Donnington, married Catherine Lickiss/Sickless/Lickess/Lickless in 1816. THINK his dad was also John, bAshby, married Catherine Twells in 1780 but looking for confirmation of this and trying to get a bit further back. Sorry if I'm asking for the impossible! Cynthia Hobson (user name changed cos of lottsa SPAM!!!)

Mike Not anyway near Fosse Park but our queues can be just as long to get in ours as well, just not tagged to the end of the motorway!. Went to Hinckley Sunday and the queue because of road works was horrendous, good job we wanted the M69. It's all taking shape here though now and people with the surname Ward keep contacting me with good results so life is good LOL Elaine

Cor ....You must have been very busy then... It's all down the middle of all the roads down here !!!!!! You got it from B&Q Fosse Park then.... It might be sometime before we get there then ....? MIKE.xx ......lol

Mike White/stone/buttermilk!!! LOL Elaine

Greeting’s again Elaine….. Just to help rubber stamp it for you Search Results of the G.R.O. Index files WARD BIRTHS:- 1854. Jan,~ Feb.~ Mar. Qrt. JOHN WARD. Melton M. District ( Which covers Frisby ) Cert No. 7a. 217. 1855. July. ~ Aug. ~ Set. Qrt. JOHN WARD. Ashby. District. (Which would covers Smisby ) Cert No. 7a. 92. Oct. ~ Nov. ~ Dec. Qrt. JOHN WARD. Melton M. District. Cert No. 7a. 260. So seems like it’s TWO separate persons ? Also……. what’s the colour of these paint splashes we are to follow then ? MIKE.

Thought on the same lines as you Mike, hopefully when my contact starts with birth cert we will progress as I don't know from which of the Wards she descends, not someone I have found yet anyway and it involves Stockport we think and Oxford way via London. To compound it, it is one of mine but where I have no idea who, when or why!!! Elaine