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THANKS MIKE what advice would you give me now to do on my tree. Has that lead come to an end as im quiet away back with my tree (1788) thanks with your help have you had any joy with the howkins name or pickering for me happy christmas sarah

Seasonal Greeting’s…….. Sarah. ……. Quote “ What advice would you give me now to do on my tree?” Apart from a large jar of PROZAC …..lol :0)))) NO……….I think if you want to go back. Then you will have to trawl through Parish Registers looking for Baptisms, Marriages, Deaths & Wills etc Very time consuming…… And in the end…. Because of the popular Christian & Surnames you will not be certain for sure. Un lest the same Occupations and family 1st.names run through out. Sorry…..? I must have missed your ref to the Families:- Howkins & Pickering Can you refresh my memory again please ? MIKE. o<] 8-) >

william howkins b 1845 littlethorpe alice wife b 1846 narborough leicester would like more info on them their parents if poss and any other info also info on the name pickering elizabeth b woodville part of ashby de la zouch born 1858 parents of her plz thanks

FOR SARAH WRAGG 1881 census Name: William Howkins Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Narborough County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Framework Knitter (Stocking) Registration district: Blaby Sub-registration district: Enderby ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Howkins 35 Ernest Howkins 1 Fred Howkins 5 George Howkins 3 Harry Howkins 9 Rose Howkins 7 William Howkins 36 1871 census Name: William Howkins Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Narborough, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Cosby Town: Littlethorpe County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Blaby Sub-registration district: Enderby ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 49 Household Members: Name Age Ann Howkins 69 William Howkins 67 William Howkins 25 1861 census Name: William Howkins Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Narborough, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Cosby County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Blaby Sub-registration district: Enderby ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 67 Household Members: Name Age Ann Howkins 60 John Howkins 20 William Howkins 57 William Howkins 17 1851 census Name: William Howkins Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Narborough, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Narborough County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Blaby Sub-registration district: Wigston ED, institution, or vessel: 3a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Ann Howkins 49 David Howkins 22 John Howkins 10 William Howkins 47 William Howkins 7 1841 census View Record Ann Howkins abt 1801 Leicestershire, England Narborough Leicestershire View Record Daml Howkins abt 1829 Leicestershire, England Narborough Leicestershire ( David ) View Record Henry Howkins abt 1826 Leicestershire, England Narborough Leicestershire View Record John Howkins abt 1840 Leicestershire, England Narborough Leicestershire View Record Ruth Howkins abt 1833 Leicestershire, England Narborough Leicestershire View Record Wm Howkins abt 1806 Leicestershire, England Narborough Leicestershire Name: Wm Howkins Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Narborough Hundred: Sparkenhoe County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Source information: HO107/602/12 Registration district: Blaby Sub-registration district: Enderby ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 20 Page: 6 (click to see others on page) Line number: 13 GSU Number: 438749 Here you go June x

FOR SARAH WRAGG Marriages Jun 1871 (100%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Howkins William Blaby 7a 95 Hubbard Alice Blaby 7a 95 1871 census Name: Ann Hubbern Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Narborough, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Narborough Town: Narborough County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Blaby Sub-registration district: Enderby ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Alice Hubbern 26 Ann Hubbern 48 George Hubbern 12 William Hubbern 7 images reads Hubbard 1861 census Name: Alice Hubbard Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Narborough, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Narborough County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Blaby Sub-registration district: Enderby ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Alice Hubbard 16 Ann Hubbard 37 Emma Hubbard 9 George Hubbard 2 1851 census Name: Alice Hubbard Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Narborough, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Narborough County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Blaby Sub-registration district: Wigston ED, institution, or vessel: 3b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 49 Household Members: Name Age Alice Hubbard 6 Ann Hubbard 28 Henry Hubbard 3 Louisa Hubbard 3 June x

Greeting’s Again…… Sarah Wragg. Sorry for the delay in posting reply But I've been on Church Duties re Christ' ingle Service..... HOWKINS :- Potted History William ( c 1845 ) ? Closest :- Birth Registration GRO Index. Oct. Nov. Dec. Qrt 1843. William Howkins. Blaby District. Cert No. 15. 53. 1851. Census Returns :- HO 107. / 2081. / 324. / Page. 23. Within Village Littlethorpe. William Howkins. Head. Mar. 47. F.W.K. (Woolen) b Narborough. Ann. Wife. 49. Ditto. b Ulesthorpe. Leicestershire. David. Son. 22. Ditto. b Cosby. Leicestershire. John. Son. 10. Scholar. WILLIAM. Son. 7. Scholar. b Narborough. MARRIAGE found. William Howkins. ~ Ann Brown. Claybrooke Magna. 21st. May. 1823. By Banns. CHRISTENING’S :- Claybrooke. Ann Brown. born 8.th. April. 1801. Christened 4.th. May. 1801. Father:- John Mother.:- Mary. Narborough. William Howkins....( Williams Father ? ) 28th. Oct. 1803. Father:- William. Mother Dinah. Narborough. William Howkins. ( Williams Father Next generation back ? ) 10th. Oct. 1769. Father:- John. Mother:- Mary. Re:- Your Alice ( Wife.) b 1846. 1851. Census Returns ( Which I think I’ve given before ? ) RG 11. / 3129. / 36. / Page. 14. Narborough. William Howkins. Head. Mar. 36. F.W.K. (Stocking) b Littlethorpe. Alice. Wife. 35. Ditto. b Narborough. Henry. Son. 9.Scholar. b Ditto. Rose. Dau.7. Ditto b Ditto. Fred. Son. 5. Ditto. George Son. 3.Ditto b Ditto. Ernest. Son. 1. b Ditto. MARRIAGE Found :- June 1871. William Howkins. ~ Alice HUBBARD. Blaby District. Cert No. 7a. 95. Checked out both ways via GRO & Free BMD’s ALICE HUBBARD. Christening:- Alice Hubbard. 8th. March. 1845. Narborough. Father:- Thomas. Mother:- Ann. 1851. Census returns HO 107. 2081. / 334. / Page. 10~11. Narborough. Workhouse Yard. ANN Hubbard. HEAD. Mar. 28. F.W.K. ( Worstered) ALICE. Dau. 6. Stocking Seamier. Henry. Son.3. Scholar. PAGE 11. Louisa Howkins. Dau 3. Scholar ALL Born Narborough. NO sign of Thomas though NO deaths found for him ….Ummm. I’m a bit confused…….. You have quoted TWO Dates for your Elizabeth PICKERING b Woodville = DERBYSHIRE. Quote:- Added by Sarah Wragg on 06/12/2006 10:34:34 hi again mike found out that the name pickering was elizabeths maiden name born Woodville 1878.and And in your last message :- You have typed……. 1858. Has I have said Woodville Parish Records comes under Derbyshire Records Office But I’m willing to post a request for help on your behalf On an other Genealogy site I help out on BUT need the right Date for Elizabeth Pickering…….. MIKE.xx

hi mike yes the elizabeth pickering was born 1878 woodville mind my is not totally on this at the moment sorry thanks again for all your help

Hello Mike, Do you have the answer to these two questions please Parent's of Ann Kenney bn 30th Sep 1719 Whetstone Leics Parent's to Mary Burley bn 24th Apri 1757 Countesthorpe. Many thanks Happy Christmas to you............

Seasonal Greeting's ....Sue. 1 out of two.......... Christening :- St. Peter's Parish Church. Whetstone. 30th. September. 1719. Ann KENEY. Father:- Thomas. Mother:- Name NOT Given. NO Records found for the other one....... Time permitting I'll have a look this week through Parish Registers in Wigston. MIKE.xxxx

Thankyou Mike.

need info on henry barsbys marriage he married a harriett and need info on what her maiden name was smith?? married 8/8/1852???? also if the henry and harriett barsby had a daughter called hannah b 15/3/1863?? thanks sarah

Greeting’s Again. ...... Sarah….. There you Go...... MARRIAGE :- Sept Qrt. 1852. Henry Barsby.~ Harriett SMITH. Barrow – Upon – Soar District. Cert No. 7a. 221. 1871. Census Returns:-RG 3232. / 12. / Page. 18. Leicestershire. Oadby. Main Street. No. 5.Wards Yard. Henry Barsby. Head. Mar. 42. Ag Lab b Oadby. Leicestershire. Harriett Wife. 39. b Queniborough. Leicestershire. William. Son. 17. Ag Lab b Birmingham. Harriett. Dau. 13. Seamstress b Oadby. Henry. Son. 10. Scholar b Ditto. HANNAH. Dau. 7. Ditto b Ditto. Joseph. Son 6. Ditto. b Ditto. Elizabeth. Dau. 3. Ditto b Ditto. N.B. Queniborough would come under Barrow Upon Soar District. MIKE.

THANKS AGAIN MIKE

Your very Welcome again Sarah. I can confirm that that marriage did NOT take place in the Parishes of Queniborough or in the Village of Barrow Upon Soar . I tried to find it this afternoon at the Records Office but drew a blank for both Parishes ... Barrow Upon Soar Parish was a very Big Parish covering most of the Villages from Loughborough in the West to the Villages which Lay to the East of the Main Melton Mowbray Road. To the North of the City of Leicester. MIKE.

Greeting’s Again Sue….. Following my visit to Records Office Wigston today :- WHETSTONE. St.Peter’s Parish. BAPTISMS ANNO DOMINI. …. 1719. 12th. Entry. Ann. Ye Daughter of Thomas KENEY…………Sept. 30th. William Parson Curate seemed not to put any Wife’s names On any of the Baptisms Registers Through out his time there ….Grrr :0(((( COUNTESTHORPE. St.Andrew’s Parish. The only Baptism which took place on that Date you quoted was :- BAPTISMS ANNO DOMINI. …. 1757. 8th. Entry:- Thomas Son of William Evens & his wife Elizabeth……24th. April. There was two interesting ones though…. BAPTISMS ANNO DOMINI. …. 1754.. Mary Daughter of Busby Richardson & Ann his wife. Baptized 24th. April 1754. Looking quickly Busby could be taken for BURLEY. ???? And I’m still not sure if it was Busby…… BURIALS…. ANNO DOMINI……1755. Ann Daughter of Thomas Ann Burley Buried. ………………….. 18th. Feb. 1755. Baptized. ………………. 12th. Jan. 1755. Also the following :- Others Found :- BAPTISMS ANNO DOMINI……1756. Catherine Ye Daughter of Thomas & Anne BURLEY Baptized ………………………………………………………..Sept. 8th. BAPTISMS ANNO DOMINI……1758. Edward Son of Thomas & Ann BURLEY. Baptized. ………………………………...6th. Nov. Also saw several……. Lords events ….Ummm. MIKE.xxx

hi mike could you look and see if henry barsby b 1829c married twice i have info that he might have married a sarah atkins b 1829c i have the info from a possible contact that might be linked to my tree so far it seems that this other person is but this would really confirm it i know he married harriett from the info from yourself and i thankyou for all your help

Boo Mike, I made it over here. Many thanks for those look ups. Also for all the others you have done for me in 2006. Don't forget a pint and a meal awaits you if you are ever in my area. Sue........

Greeting’s Again Sarah….. The only Sarah Atkins Marriage found 1850 ~ 52. July Qrt. 1851. Sarah Atkins. ~ DAVID GOODMAN. Billesdon District. Cert No. XV. 65. Sarah was born in Goadby.( Billesdon District ) They went on to rise a Family in Tur Langton. I have tracked both Harriett & Henry through the 1841. ~ 51. Censuses. On the 1851. Census. Henry (20) was working on a Farm in BARKBY THORPE. Harriett (19) was a servant working in BARKBY. These villages are only 1.2. miles apart. And both villages come under Barrow Upon Soar District. So…..Next time I’m at the Records Office I’ll have a look at the Registers for both Parishes for that Marriage in 1852. MIKE. xx

Merry Christmas everyone Thanks for everybody's help this year and happy hunting to all Elaine

hi mike hope you had a good xmas need info if you dont mind on william pickering b1834 his parents were willaim b1792 and elizabethb1792 since found out he was a manger of knowles and co making pipes and tiles etc how do i find out to confirm th is plz and could you find out more info on his parents plz born woodville i think many thanks sarah