Genealogy Chat

Has anyone had a look at the poor law cd that the LFHS sells? hubby keeps asking what I would like for Christmas and I have just had a look at their cd's Elaine

Mike Many thanks, think I can eliminate that Joseph he looks like one of the Melton Mowbray mob. Regards Jon O'Kent

*** F,A,O *** Jon O ' Kent. At great expense to the company........ Following visit to Records Office today Full Transcript of that Christening St. George's Parish Church Leicester. Page 112. Entry No. 89. April. 19th. 1837. Joseph Son of Thomas & Ann TOMKINS. Stamford Street. Hincks Yard. Labourer. G. Hunnley Vicar. MIKE. Sorry Ladies for the word ' HINCKS ' ....Squeak..... Squeak.

HO…HO …… Elaine …… Details for those Poor Law disks………. Disk No 53.( Poor Law 2. ) All Poor Law records from CD No. 37. (Leicestershire & Rutland Poor Law Index 1598. ~ 1940’s ) Plus Quarter Sessions 1714. ~ 1844. Removals & Settlements. 1678. ~ 1832. Bastardy Order Books 1678. ~ 1832. & Bastardy Books 1844. ~ 1874. Coat £ 15.95. p. ( Which Inc. Postage & Package. ) Or……… if you have CD 37.( £10.99.)….. already UPGRADE If you return the paper CD insert from the front of the case & your Remittance to receive your new version …CD 53. Cost £ 8.00. Upgrade by Post only Not credit Card…… LOVE………. SANTA. XX Sorry I've not had a chance to see them myself to busy keeping the Elves in order .... About to Type up the full transcript of that Application for Licence re George Isaac Ward......

*** F.A.O *** Jon O ‘ Kent ….. There you Go..... as per your list .. Names. / dates. / Ages. / Last know Address. / Parish. TOMKINS --- 27 MAR 1859 INF SYCAMORE LANE SAINT NICHOLAS U O 485 C 7532 CHILD OF MARY ANN TOMKINS --- 16 MAY 1863 INF BRITANNIA STREET SAINT MARGARET U R 1742 C 12310 DAUGHTER OF ELIZA TOMKINS --- 23 AUG 1864 INF 7 BRITANNIA STREET SAINT MARGARET C L 1533 C 8416 DAUGHTER OF ANN TOMKINS --- 12 AUG 1865 INF 7 BRITANNIA STREET SAINT MARGARET U B 698 C 15975 SON OF JOHN TOMKINS --- 16 APR 1873 3DAYS 1 UPPER CHARLES STREET SAINT GEORGE U T 1000 C 30048 SON OF JANE U. = Unconsecrated Ground. C. = Consecrated Ground. O,R,L,B,T. = Section. Plot No.’s. C. = Common Plot. Burial No. Notes on Parents. NO one else found using any of the above plot No's ... MIKE..

Mike Again, many thanks, a very pleasant surprise. Without pushing my luck what is the situation with recording stillborn deaths ie; parential details ? Jon O'Kent

*** F.A.O ***…… Jon O’ Kent. There you Go ….Part Two. As per your list……. TOMKINS :- --- 21 MAY 1860 STBN SCRIMSHAW'S SQUARE BLACKFRIARS C F 851 C 5840 CHILD OF MARY --- 3 FEB 1865 STBN BLUE BOAR LANE SAINT NICHOLAS C L 1462 C 8640 CHILD OF MARY ANN --- 4 DEC 1866 STBN BRITANNIA STREET SAINT MARGARET U Q 1481 C 17951 CHILD OF ANN --- 24 JUL 1867 STBN SYCAMORE LANE SAINT NICHOLAS C B 831 C 10287 CHILD OF MARY --- 25 NOV 1868 STBN CORAH STREET SAINT MARY U R 2732 C 21467 CHILD OF SARAH --- 14 MAY 1868 STBN 7 BRITANNIA STREET SAINT MARGARET C E1 1365 C 10890 CHILD OF ANN --- 25 JUL 1870 STBN CRAB STREET SAINT MARGARET U R1 3114 C 24340 CHILD OF ANN NO other TOMKINS buried with them…… MIKE.

Mike Excellent, many thanks. That poor lass in Britannia St 2 stillborn and 2 infant deaths. Final 2 if you would please Mike Aug 1873 Dec 1873 Regards Jon O'Kent

*** F.A.O. *** Jon O ‘ Kent…. For the Five Card Trick ? ……. There you Go…… As per list TOMKINS. Welford Road Cemetery --- 7 AUG 1873 6HRS PAINTER STREET SAINT MARGARET U T 648 C 30585 DAUGHTER OF HARRIET --- 24 DEC 1873 STBN BRITANNIA STREET SAINT MARGARET U T 1430 C 31381 CHILD OF MARY ANN Again. ..... NO other TOMKINS with them. ……. MIKE.

Mike Many thanks for above. Not quite a 'Full House' her first and last survived Regards Jon O'Kent

Hi Mike Another shot in the dark definately, have a new contact as her mother recognised some family photo's of mine as being her relations. The hard part is we don't know how we are connected but we have a Charles William Humphry Ward we are trying to find like mad whose father is called John. In 1909 this Charles married Emily Barrett in Paddington, he was 50 and she was 23, this was his second marriage and on his daughter's birth cert the following May, his name is given as Charles Humphry Ward. Occupations on the marriage cert give Charles as a wagon repairer for G W Railway and his father John is a shepherd. Even with my accumulation of Wards I don't have a John that fits in my family so wondered if on any of your discs you could give me a starting point. Haven't found anything on St Margs and don't even know if they were in Leicester. Have waited this long to ask because I can trace the Barretts alright but not Charles and I am stuck. Thanks as always Elaine

hi mike could you help me look for a thomas clarke he was born 1791 woodhouse or barrow on soar would love to find who his parents were or any information on the clarkes in woodhouse thanks

hi mike would you look for me the parents of thomas clarke b 1791 woodhouse leicestershire plz as i cant get access to many sites on here thanks

Greetings Mike Can you please help with a birth query, Samuel TOMKINS b c1826 Leicester St Margarets, would like parents details if possible. Regards Jon O'Kent

Greeting’s Again Sarah. …. Umm….Woodhouse is a Grey area ? We have TWO Woodhouse’s 1. ) Woodhouse. ( formerly known as Nether Town ) 2. ) Woodhouse Eaves. BOTH within the Parish of Barrow Upon Soar. And only 1.Mile apart. So will have a look at Barrow another time So concentrated on the Woodhouse & Woodhouse Eaves. Early Marriages found :- St Mary in the Elm.Parish Church. Woodhouse. ALL By Banns. Thomas Clarke.~ Elizabeth GRIMSON. 18th. May. 1714. (Both of Swithland.) William Clarke. ~ Hannah DERRY. 30th.Jul. 1726. Thomas Clarke. ~ Annie BREEDEN. 28th. May. 1748. Richard Clarke. ~ Dianah HALL.16th. jun. 1758. Samuel Clarke ~ Elizabeth DERRY. 16th.Feb. 1773. (He of Swithland.) Stephen Clarke. ~ Ann SQUIRES.1st. Nov. 1778. THOMAS CLARKE. ~ ANN HARRIMAN. 2nd. Sept. 1811. Sorry early Christening's shown from 1811 ONLY CLARKE Families found on 1841. Census.:- Woodhouse.:- HO 107 / 594. / 9. / 13. / Page. 3. John Clarke. 57. Lab Slate Quarryman. Martha. 50. John. 18. HO 107. / 594. / 9./ 20./ Page. 17. Elizabeth Clarke. 50. HO 107./ 594. / 9. / 21. / Page.19. William Clarke.35. Lab. Slate Quarryman. Sarah. 40. Mary. 13. Rachel. 8. William. 3. Susan. 3. John. 10 Months Old. ALL above Born within the County. Woodhouse Eaves. HO 107. / 954. / 10. / 30./ Page. 8. John Clarke. 70. Ag. Lab. Ann. 70. HO 107./ 954./ 10./ 31. / Page.10. Sarah Clarke. 40. 10. / 31. / Page. 19. THOMAS CLARKE. 50. ( c 1791. ) F.W.K. Ann. 50. (née Harriman ? ) Ditto. Mary. 20. Ditto. Thomas. 15. Ditto. John. 14. Ditto. William. 5. F.W.K = Frame Work Knitter. Next door within the household of John Simpson Farmer. William Clarke 7. Farm Servant. 10. / 37. / Page. 22. Thomas Clarke. 45. Ag. Lab. NOT born within the County. Elizabeth. 35. James. 13. John. 10. Joseph. 6. William. 3. All others born within the County. 10. / 39. / Page. 26. George Clarke.40. Ag. Lab. Sarah. 35. George. 11. Joseph. 10. William. 7. Sarah. 6. John. 1. All above Born within the County. Woodhouse Eaves Burials found :- St Paul’s Parish Church. Names. / Dates. / Ages. / Notes. Clarke William 10 Jan 1851 12 Clarke Anne 22 Mar 1851 73 Clarke Thomas 4 Feb 1853 61 Clarke William 20 Feb 1855 3wks Clarke John 24 Mar 1856 Abt 70 Abode Brand Clarke Thomas 3 Jul 1856 34 Clarke Maria 2 Jan 1860 3 Clarke William 25 Nov 1862 -- Abode Mountsorrel Union Clarke Fanny 27 Apr 1863 19 Clarke William 30 Sept 1866 18mths Clarke Hannah 27 Jul 1869 22 Clarke Sarah 6 Mar 1877 82 Clarke John 5 Apr 1877 45 Clarke Elizabeth 21 Mar 1883 75 Died .16th Clerk George 14 Mar 1847 19days Hope this is a help MIKE.

THANKS MIKE YOUVE FOUND THEM ITS THE THOMAS CLARKE C 1791 AND ANN HARRIMAN C 1791 1ST NOV 1811 IN THE 1841 CENSUS YOU FOUND THEIR KIDS ONE OF THEM A JOHN CLARKE C 1830 HES THE LINK TO MY FAMILY HE HAD A SON NATHANIEL CLARKE C 1852 SO COULD YOU CHECK IT OUT AND CONFIRM IT FOR ME AND LOOK FOR THOMAS CLARKE C 1791 PARENTS AND ANN HARRIMANS C 1791 WOULD BE MOST GRATEFULL MANY THANKS MIKE

*** F.A.O. ***……. Sarah. Glad we have now Identified them…… So…. 1851. Census. HO 107. / 2087. / 286. / Page. 7. St. Paul’s Parish Woodhouse. Eaves Street. Thomas Clarke. Head Mar. 63. Stocking Maker b NARBOROUGH. Leicestershire. Ann Wife.62. b Woodhouse. JOHN. Son. 22. Stocking Maker. b. Woodhouse. William. Son. 16. Ditto. b Woodhouse. Jessie Clarke. Gr/Son. 9. Base Born. b. Woodhouse. BASE BORN = Illegitimate. 1861. Census. RG 9. / 2280. / 106. / Page. 8. St. Paul’s Parish. Woodhouse. Eaves Street. JOHN CLARKE. Head Mar. 32. Mason's Lab. Mary. Wife. 30. Lab’s Wife. NATHANIEL Son. 9. Scholar. Anne, Dau. 5. Ditto. Samuel. Son. 2. ALL above Born Woodhouse. So I see that Thomas was born NARBOROUGH Leicestershire So had to switch to this Parish for Christening & Parents. THREE choices……. ( 1. ) Thomas Clark. 18th. August. 1787. Narborough. Father :- Joseph. Mother :- Elizabeth. ( 2. ) Thomas Clark. 11th. May. 1788. Narborough. Father :- John. Mother :- Elizabeth. ( 3. ) Thomas Clark. 29th. July. 1798. Narborough. Father :- Joseph. Mother:- Elizabeth. I would go for No. 2. which would match up with age ( 63 ) on 1851.Census. Also bare in mind that the enumerator’s on the 1841. Census Were told to round DOWN the ages of those over 15 to the nearest multiples of 5. …….(e.g.) 53 = 50.Age stated on 1841. Census. Also it stated that Thomas was born within the County of Leicestershire which Narborough is……. Interesting CLARK Burials found for Narborough :- Names. / Dates./ Notes.:- Clark * Elizabeth 20 Dec 1829 75 WIFE OF JOHN Clark * John 3 Dec 1837 79 WIDOWER NOW….. CHRISTENING & MARRIAGES………. Oct.~ Nov.~ Dec. Quarter 1851. NATHANIEL CLARKE. Barrow Upon Soar District ( which covers Woodhouse.) Certificate No. XV. 32. Aprox 9 months before above MARRIAGE. April.~ May. ~ June. Quarter. 1851. John Clarke. Barrow Upon Soar District. Certificate No. XV. 55. Not knowing the maiden Name of Johns Wife Mary So could not cross ref it in order to confirm it. The small Certificate Ref. No's indicate it was a small Village = Woodhouse ? and not Barrow Upon Soar Village which would have had bigger No's at this time ... I can look up the early Christening’s Register’s & Marriage Registers for you next week at Wigston Records Office, and get back to you. …… MIKE.

mike many thanks for the info i know that nathaniel clarke b 1851 married a mary barsby june 1873 but as for john clarke b 1830 who married a mary sadly i dont know her maiden name it would be fantastic if you could look at records office for me like i said thankyou so much for all your help it means alot to me sarah

hi mike looking for a friend on this one his mums name was florance ann burdett born in 1942 market harborough leicestershire her parents were frederick j a burdett and ivy goddard they got marrind in sept quater 1941 and would like information on their births maybe born early 1900s not sure what year they were born or where think leicestershire . horton was the maiden name of ivy goddards mother but that all i know many thanks if you can help me we this

Births for Frederick Burdett up to the year shown (from freebmd - there may be more to be transcribed) Jun 1894 Burdett Frederick Joseph Leicester 7a 303 Mar 1896 BURDETT Frederick George Billesdon 7a 23 Jun 1902 Burdett Frederick Arthur Melton M. 7a 339 Dec 1902 Burdett Frederick Lawrence Leicester 7a 174 Jun 1903 Burdett Frederick Leicester 7a 306 Jun 1904 Burdett Frederick Charles Rugby 6d 610 Burdett Frederick Cyril Melton M. 7a 344 Sep 1904 BURDETT Frederick William Leicester 7a 239 Mar 1907 BURDETT Frederick Lutterworth 7a 5