Genealogy Chat

Hi Mike That was quick!! Thanks for taking the time to look for me. Maybe I ought to double check the death of the Benjamin Hipwell born in 1832, evan though his father's name was Joseph. There seem to be so many William Hipwells that I'm starting to wonder if all male Hipwells were called William - but then chose a name they preffered in later life. (I am joking - I think) Ah well the wall still stands for the time being. Many Thanks Angela

Greeting’s Again Angela…….. If you saw the state of those Parish Registers of the Vicar / Curate You begin to wonder if your Idea of every Hipwell was Baptised William Would not be far off …..lol :0)))) Plus…… It most have drove the enumerator of the 1841 Census. …. MAD. In just two pages for Catthorpe returns there is THREE William Hipwell’s :- HO107. / 597. / Bk. 14. / Folder. 5. / Pages 3. ~ 5. Page 3. Catthorpe William Hipwell.( Jnr) 30. Ag. Lab. Y. Catherine. 20. N. John. 4. Y. Sarah. 1. Page. 5. Catthorpe. William Hipwell. 70. Stocking Maker. N. Jane. 65. Y. Fanny. 17. Y Few doors down William Hipwell ( Snr ) 65. Ag. Lab. Y. Y. = YES Born within the County. N. = NO. Not Born within the County. Don’t be too down hearted….. I would like to think we’ve put a small dent in that wall …… MIKE.

Hi Mike and Angela I might be way off the track but it might be worth a thought. There is a Benjamin Hipwell on 1881 Census with wife Hannah born 1824 Carthorpe Warwickshire. Occ Bricklayer. Seeing how Carthorpe and Catthorpe look similar Bev

Hi Beverley Thanks for taking an interest in my problem. Actually you are spot on - that is my Benjamin Hipwell in the 1881 census with his second wife Hannah (nee Birch). He died in 1884 so will not appear on any later census. The main problem I have at the moment is finding an actual birth for him. Mike has kindly confirmed that he does not appear on the Catthorpe (the available ones anyway) or Swinford parish registers. I think I may need to visit Northamptonshire Records Office to check for births in Lilbourne and return to Warwick Records Office to check out Clifton-on-Dunsmore. Mike - I know how the enumarator must have felt!! Yes, I think there are a few chips in that wall now. Thanks Angela

Hi Angela Your welcome we all like to try and help each other Bev

Greeting’s Again Angela……… I’ve had a look around for you in both Villages Lilbourne & Clifton Upon Dunsmore via the I.G.I. Batch numbers…. If I was you I would start at Warwickshire Records Office. There is a Christening for a :- William Hipwell 19th. March. 1872. Clifton – Upon – Dunsmore. Father :- Benjamin Hipwell. Mother :- Sarah. But NO Hipwell events shown up for Lilbourne.Northamptonshire. Not sure if you have access to the 1841. census … But here is my search results:- 1841. Census Returns :- HO 107. 800. / Bk. 13./ Folder.4. Warwickshire. Clifton- Upon – Dunsmore. Within the Village Page 1. Left Hand page. 5th Family down. Thomas Hipwell 60. Frame Work Knitter. Y. Sarah. Ditto. 61. N. BENJAMIN. Ditto. 25. Journeyman. Y. Henry. Ditto. 20. Ditto. Y. Y. – YES Born within the County. N. = NO. Not Born within the County. Do not put anything in the ' Keyword box' the Hipwell's have not been indexed So .... Only put 800. / 13. / 4. In your search Box Again NO Hipwell families found in Lilbourne for 1841. Don’t forget that before 1837 You will not find the actual birth date ( unless the Vicar was kind enough to record it ) Just the Christening / Baptism event Which would have cost them 3d. which was a big outlay in those days. MIKE.

Hi Mike. Thanks for that info. I guess my thinking is that he may have been christened / born in a neighbouring village. Unfortunatley - frustratingly - I can't tie all these other Hipwells in until I know which particular branch he sprung from. Looking at various census (I have a subscription to Ancestry) there are Hipwells in Warwickshire / Northamptonshire. My Hipwells weren't known for their wealth - so it makes me wonder if they just couldn't afford to have him christened at all! Angela

hi mike hope you are well have you any more info yet for me been doing bits myself when i can but iv been busy this week with my kids my girl has got hearing aids now because of the treatment she has had for her tumour that was in her head sarah

*** F.A.O. *** Sarah Wragg. Sorry for the delay but I had logged out by the time of your message Last week. So I did not pick it up until I Had returned from the Records Office last week … Right I agree with the conformation from Parish Registers Christening of Richard Barsby. 5th November 1788. St John the Baptist Church. Hungarton. Father :- John Barsby. Mother :- Mary. B. Clarke. Vicar. Not sure about your Marriage of John Barsby ~ MARY Johnson. 30th.January 1789..Ilston – on – the – Hill. This would make Richard Base born ? and Mothers Christan name is wrong ? The Parish Registers of Ilston - on - the - Hill. as it down as :- St. Michael & All Angels Parish Church. ANNO DOMINI.~ 1789. John Barsby. Of this Parish. ANN JOHNSON of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By Me :- John Valentine. Curate. Thirtieth Day of January. One Thousand Seven Hundred & Eighty Nine. Wit’s :- John Percival. & William Harrington. John signed by his Mark = X Ann by her own signature. VERY Clear ANN. More likely to be :- ANNO DOMINI. ~ 1779. St. John the Baptist Parish Church Hungarton. Entry No. 3. John Barsby ~ MARY CHAMBERS Both of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By Me B. Clarke Vicar. This Sixth Day of September One Thousand Seven Hundred & Seventy Nine. Wits :- William Orton. Thomas King. This makes the Father & Mother’s christening names right for Richard ? Your other inquiry…… The ONLY John Barsby Christened Ilston – on – the – Hill. Within the years you quoted is as follows John Barsby. 2nd. February. 1763. Ilston – on – the – Hill Father :- EDWARD Barsby. Mother :- Sarah. MIKE.

hi mike thankyou for the information with what you have found seems right than the other info that i found myself have you got the info from your friend yet on the pickerings ? howkins yet that you said they were looking for for you ?? sarah

hi mike can you check this out for me when your next at records office john barsby born 1763 ilston on the hill parents edward barsby christened 1735 ilston on the hill died october 19 ilston on the hill marriage to sarah about 1753 ilston on the hill sarah born 1732 ilston i think edwards parents samuel barsby b1710 ilston on the hill (3 april) death 11 jan 1760 ilston on the hill mary b 1713 ilston on the hill death 19 october 1785 ilston on the hill want to know if im on the right track with this from richard barsby b 1788 and then john barsby b 1763 thanks sarah

Has anyone received their Leicester Family History mag, the first for this year yet? Elaine

Greeting's....... Elaine Nope. ....:0((( But there again they all seem to go on holiday this time of the year..... Oh. ... If I'm not round tomorrow then I'm having a problem getting on the net, Re:- Change over from NTL ~ Virgin.... But you can send E-mails to my proper E-mail address (NTL) you have & I can get them......:o/ But I'm still carring on with my NTL World name. ..... not changing to Virgin. MIKE.

hi mike can you check this out for me at records office when you go again plz thomas clark b 11th may 1788 narborough (son of john) john clark b 1758 narborough(son of william) william clarke b1757 belgrave leicester found johns birth being john clark 26 dec 1758 narborough sister hannah clark 16 oct1763 belgrave would like this confirming to know im on the right track from thomas clark and then john and willaim thanks sarah

Hello Mike Hope all went smooth, can you possibly remind me of what I should have somewhere but can't find Have CHARLES, 1858, JEMIMA STRETTON, 7 (he's a Hurst) from St Margs and wondered if you could tell me the banns info (again). She has been mis- transcribed and should be Street. Thanks Elaine

Greeting’s Again Elaine…. Listen very carefully..... I’ll only say this once ….lol :0))) There you GO……. Fiche No. :- 24 D65. / D26. / 80. St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester. Entry No.80, DEC 25, 1858, after Banns CHARLES HURST, 19, Bach. PAINTER, of GEORGE St, Son. of WILLIAM HURST, PAINTER. JEMIMA STRETTON, 23, Spinster. of GEORGE St, Father's name & occupation not given Wits: WILLIAM HENRY STRETTON, LOUISA STRETTON. If it was STREET……. Census returns 1851. Bath Street, Leicester. Martha Street Head U 31 F Worsted Spinner NTT PRESTWOLD Alice Street Sist U 28 F Worsted Spinner NTT PRESTWOLD Jemima Street Dau 14 F Worsted Doubler LEI LOUGHBORO' Louisa Street Dau 9 F Scholar LEI LEICESTER Switch over of server….. only a couple of hic ups But behaving it’s self now. Due to Snow conditions Thursday I did as the Police asked and did not venture out to the Records Office …… MIKE. xx

Hi folks I'm going to Coalville Library on Tuesday - if anyone needs any lookups Coalville -Hugglescote - Whitwick etc let me know. I'll do my best! Jan

Hi Mike Just got in from Hinckley! Thanks for that, was going over old stuff so grateful for those banns. I have Jemima's census returns, glad I had the 1851 Leicester disc as I cant't find her on ancestry and checking on 1 of the Witnesses, he married Ann Street,they are distant rels so probably won't look much further at them. Elaine PS would these be easy to look up when you go to the records office? Jemima Street, baptism 7th Aug 1836, All Saints Loughborough Should say father is John, mother Martha

Hello Jan Nice to talk to you again, still chasing my Moores too. Thanks for the offer, will probably com up with something the next time you go! Not had much time to look lately Elaine

Greeting's Again......... Elaine According to my data base....... Jemima Street was christened 2nd. August 1836. All Saints Church Loughborough Father :- John. Mother :- Martha. But I'll check it out this week if you want ? It might have more details like Occupation & an address MIKE.xx