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Greeting’s Again Sarah….. Anyone can be a Witness to a Marriage……. Possible Reasons :~ May be the parents were diseased. Parents did not approve of the Marriage. The Parish Clark’s seemed to like to sign as Witnesses I have seen loads. ….. Some people made a living from being Professional Witnesses. May be the Marriage was performed by Licence. ? Due to they wanted to marry quickly So Parents or Relatives could not make it ? Or I could see that the Rector / Vicar of Hungarton at one time was a Thomas CLARK So maybe a relative ? So did they sign the Register that they were Church Warden / Parish Clark then ? MIKE.

hi mike sorry to have asked again but from what youve told me it seems like john barsby b 1739 is the one i want can i ask why +on a marriage cert would a church warden and parish clerk be witnesses why would thier not be a family member as witness regards sarah

Greeting’s Again…….. Sarah I keep stating I’ve already answered this one before. ..... From Our LEICESTERSHIRE THREAD PART ELEVEN. Below was my answer Added By Mike The Leicester Lad.... on 11/02/2007 22:42:49 | Update Message | Delete Message Greeting's Again...... Sarah. Christening :- John Barsby. 10th. February 1739. St.John the Baptist. Hungarton. Father :- John Barsby. Mother :- Ann. MIKE.

hi mike i wondered if you had lookup for me my john barsby born 1739 hungerton at ro for me as iv not had time to go myself regards sarah

Greeting's Again Elaine .... From G.R.O. site. :~ April ~ May. ~ June Qrt. 1858. Charles Henry Ward. LEICESTER. Cert No. 7 a. 110. James Bryan as above Cert No. 7 a. 112. Re George F. Ward 1901 ? Amelia is on RG 13. / 3005. / 46. / Page. 37 No. 19. Laxton Street. with a daughter Mary aged 5. b Leicester. Lodging with a Mary Stewardson MIKE. xxx

A burial I need to check then to see if it's James and Maria son before they go back to Newark! James Bryan Ward is not mine that I know of and this is the only Charles Henry I can find. Thank you Elaine

*** F.A.O. *** ……Elaine. St. George’s was full by then It was Welford Road Cemetery…… PLOT No. C.H. 919. ......all that are with Charles. C. = Common plot. C * WARD* Charles Henry 1858 May 8 1yr 10mths Barrow's Yard Curzon Street Saint Margaret 4678 C * WARD James Bryan 1858 May 13 3mths Curzon Street Saint Margaret 4688 C FERGUSON Elizabeth 1866 Jun 1 43 Curzon Street Saint George 9523 C LOCK Hannah 1886 Dec 1 89 Leicester Union House All Saints 27942 C BENFIELD Elizabeth P M 1900 Dec 5 2mths 110 Gresham Street Leicester 45179 C STEPHENS Alfred 1922 Sep 27 72 Leire Street Leicester 60203 Looks like both died due to the influenza epidemic which swept through Leicester 1858.? MIKE. xxx

Hi Mike Re - Ellen Deacon I suppose your theory could be true Probably won't get any further back on this line now !! Thanks for your help Clare

Morning Mike Have you anything on disc for Charles Henry Ward died 5 May 1858 19 Curzon Street Guessing St Georges as ever, father James Ward but registered by a Catherine Hart and same address given. He was aged 1, I thought it might be James brother and ordered the cert. There is a son Charles Henry of James that goes to Scarborough with them (born in Newark as they leave Leicester) and this James on the cert is a master fishmonger. Am sure he must be mine, too much of a coincidence Elaine

Thanks Mike Will get it right this time Elaine

Thanks for the info, wondered why could not find her so will try GRO and see what I get back.

*** F.A.O. *** ....Elaine. NEW'S FLASH. ......via local Wireless. Toni & Julie's Tea Rooms Aylestone Will be now open on Wednesday's from May onwards 11.00 ~ 4.00. pm. So. ...... Wednesday ~ Saturday 11.00 ~ 4.00 pm. Sundays ~ 11.00. ~ 5.00. pm. MIKE. XXX

Greeting’s Again ……..Clare § I would not dispel that certificate for now……… I’ve looked at the Batch No’s again for Deacon Baptisms in Swepstone. There is a Mary Deacon 4th.Jan.1789. With Parents :~ John & Eliz Deacon. Which would make Mary aprox 28 at the birth of Eleanor 1817.? Could this Mary be the Mother your Eleanor born out of wedlock Eleanor could well have been bought up by John & Eliz So… Eleanor would not know the truth & so put John as Father on Marriage Register ? MIKE.

Hi All Update on Ellen Deacon - marriage certificate arrived - on time Date of marriage - 19/12/1844 Place - St Peter and St Paul's Church, Aston, Birmingham Groom - George Reay Bride - Ellen Varnam Deacon Both of full age (no numbers listed) Condition - Bachelor and Spinster Groom Occ - Buckle Maker Residence at time of marriage - both Duddeston (Birmingham) Groom Father - Thomas Reay - Bitmaker Bride Father - John Deacon - Husbandsman Witness 1 - Charles ?Hernemsley Witness 2 - Emma Reay Vicar - G O Fenwicke So it looks like the Ellenor you found on parish records may not be mine unless they lied about her father - What do you think?? Cheers Clare

Greeting's Again June .... Up to 1922 on searching deaths But No Richard yet It was ROBERT 1906. MKT Bosworth not Richard .. Going to rest me eyes for a while ..... MIKE. xx

Welcome back...... June Slightly confused here….. The Richard Lampard No. 38.Catsby Street On the 1901 Census states he was born EAST NORTON Leicestershire Is this the right chappy ? I see his wife ( Kate ) was living apart ? in Grey Street aged 34.born Leicester Death aged 42. Oct Qrt.1908. So did Richard die 1901 ~ 1908 ? NO records found for either in Welford Road. So……could it be Gilroes Crematory / Cemetery If so contact below :~ All cemetery and crematorium matters are dealt with at our central office in New Walk Centre, Leicester. Address: Burial & Cremation Manager, New Walk Centre, Welford Place, Leicester, LE1 6ZG. Telephone (U.K.): 0116 252 7382/7383 Fax (U.K): 0116 222 8706 E-Mail: cemeteries(Hat)leicester.gov.uk Replace Hat with the other spelling Plus found a Death ~ Oct. Nov. Dec Qrt. 1905. ROBERT Lampard. MKT Bosworth District. Aged 49. Cert 7 a. 41. MIKE. xx What happened to the Foxes ? They WON........ 1st time in 50 years against Preston……

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Greeting’s…….. Christopher There you go :~ St. Peter’s Parish Church Belgrave . Leicestershire. Heward Baptisms / Birth Details as per names 1861. Census Returns:~ Louise. :~ Born Friday.28th.April. 1843.Baptism 21st. May 1843. Eliza. Born Tuesday.25th. July.1848. Baptism. 20th. August. 1848. Mary. Born Thursday7th. December. 1845. Baptism. 20th. August. 1848. Ann Read.Heward. Born Sat.28th. January. 1851. Baptism. 20th.January 1852. Caroline.Born Friday.13th. May. 1853. Baptism. 7th. August. 1853. RACHEL. Born Wednesday 1st. August. 1855. Baptism. 25th. May. 1856. All Baptisms were on a Sunday. Burials :~ Joseph Heward. 28th. January. 1880. Aged 64. Hannah. 15th. October. 1887. Aged. 71. Don’t forget the Village of Belgrave Came under Barrow – Upon – Soar District It did not come into Leicester District till 1st. June 1889. There may have been a Hic Up on the Birth Index on G.R.O. July. ~ August. ~ September Qrt. 1855. Joseph Heward. Barrow - Upon - Soar. District. Cert. No. 7 a. 141. Joseph was Rachel's FATHER ...? :0/ Hope this helps. MIKE.

Greeting’s Again Sylvia…… You’ve beaten me to it I too had an in depth look at Thomas & Alice in Humberstone. I think your right. It seems Thomas & Alice did not wonder far from Humberstone Plus going on the Burials I found they both lived to a ripe old age :~ St. Mary’s Parish Church Humberstone. Leicestershire. COOPER * Thomas 23 Jun 1822 60 F.W.K. COOPER James 18 Oct 1834 63 F.W.K. COOPER John 04 Feb 1838 48 Abode St. Margaret's Leicester F.W.K. COOPER Anne 30 Sep. 1840 41 Wife of Thomas COOPER * Alice 25 Jun 1844 80 Abode Kegworth. Widow COOPER Thomas 23 Sep 1855 57 COOPER Edward 21 Jul 1888 61 Abode Borough Asylum N Humberstone Back to the drawing board then ? ……. MIKE.