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Greeting’s Again Elaine……. Conformation of Marriage from TWO different disks :~ St Thomas a Becket Parish Church. Tugby. 22nd.June. 1829. James Cook ~ Sarah Bryan. Following Banns. Christening’s of Children with Parents Sarah & James Cook in Tugby. MARIA. 27th. January. 1830. Rebecca. 2nd. March. 1836. William. 2nd. September. 1836 ALL above have James Cook as a SHOE MAKER. On the Bryan side……… Baptism :~ Sarah BRYAN. 15th. May. 1793. St. Mary Magdalene & St.Andrew’s. RIDINGTON. Rutland. Father.:~ William Bryan. Mother.:~ Ann. MARRIAGE. :~ St. Mary Magdalene. & St.Andrew’s. Ridington Rutland. 25th. April. 1791. William Bryan. ~ Ann BAINES. Following Banns. Hope this helps ? MIKE. xxx

Thanks Mike Will check out the dates as they are on my contacts tree. Sarah is her relation, checks out so far with what I have 1841 1841 Census HO107/593/23 Folio 4 Pg 7 Living in Tugby James Cook Age 30 Occupation Shoemaker Yes Sarah Cook Age 45 No Maria Cook Age 10 Yes Sarah Cook Age 9 Yes Rebekah Cook Age 7 No Within the household is an Ann Bryan Age 15 Occupation Straw Bonnet Maker born within the county and from the info I have , Bryan is Sarah's maiden name ie the mother above Elaine

Hi Mike (again) Is there a baptism entry for Ann Bryan? possibility she was Sarah's illegitimate daughter Elaine

Thanks for that Mike. 1788 would be too late as I know her approx age from census and burial.

Greeting’s Elaine …… Holds out my glasses ……..Here…. cough...Ummm 1841 census returns READS..... thus !!! :~ Rebecca. Do. 7. ……….Y = YES. Not as you have stated = NO …….. lol :0)) BTW...... Data from disks Re:~ Ann Bryan. aged 15. C 1826. Going on that ages over 15 were rounded down to nearest multiple of 5. Then it could have been either :~ Baptisms :~ Ann Bryan. 26th. January. 1817. Tugby. Father. :~ John. a Lab. Mother :~ Mary. OR just a hop skip jump across the fields :~ Ann Bryan. 10th. September 1826. TILTON – ON – THE – HILL. Father :~ William. A Weaver. Mother:~ Ann. Weaving is in keeping with the art of bonnet making ? This is a better match Pity there was not a column on the 41 Census to state relationship to head of household. ……Grrr …….. MIKE. xxx

Thanks Mike, I stand corrected! Thanks for looking. Had a look on the IGI, have found Tabby Christening: 26 AUG 1832 Tugby, Leicester, England Would you be able to check her too please, it's a member submission, but all the dates check with this person so far except William as they have 9 Sep 1836 as baptism Elaine

Greeting's Again Elaine .... TABBY ? :0/ Is this a Christian or Surname ? Or. ..... Have you now started researching the Family's Feline Family Tree ? ....Umm MIKE. xxx To quote Mrs Dale....' I'm worried about Elaine ?? '

*** F.A.O. *** Elaine..... UPDATE.... On your James & Sarah COOK (e) Have you checked out 1851 census returns for Tugby ? HO 107 / 2080 / 53 / Page 23 . Keyword>>>> Cooke Page 23. ( bottom entry ) James Cooke Head Mar. 40. Shoe Maker Master b Leicestershire Tugby HO 107 / 2080 / 54 / Page. 24. ( NOTE change of Folder No. ) Page 24. ( top entry ) Sarah Cooke. Wife. 53. Shoe maker's Wife. b Rutland Ridlington. ANN KING. DAUGHTER. 28. Straw Bonnet Maker. b Tugby. So....Off to explore King's Baptisms 1823 ~ > Tugby MIKE. UPDATE No. 2. ..... Now't found ....... One for the Records Office Registers me thinks ? .....

hi mike when you go ro again can you look up john barsby born 1739 and see if you can find his death for me plz been looking on igi but found nothing around the years 1791 1800 he married in 1779 to mary chambers b 1760 rearsby john was born hungerton they had a children in 1791 1788 so im guessing at when he died seems like hes a mystery regards sarah

Thanks Mike (purring away) I have at least got a bit of background Elaine

Hello Sarah I read your last message and wondered if you were near a Mormon church, don't know if you know but you can order in a parish record such as Hungerton and have a look. I looked through the Newark records looking for a burial and found all sorts connected to the family and then double checked parents by going to the baptism register, it helped no end. Thought it might be useful for you. I have still yet to do this myself as I am not in Leicester and have exhausted my leads for Nottingham. Hope this helps Elaine

hi elaine thanks for the tip il look into it census lookups plz for mary barsby b 1782 hungerton (on 1851) william barsby b 1791 hungerton ( on 1841 1851 1861 ) elizabeth barsby b 1783 hungerton (on1851) mary barsby nee chambers b 1760 rearsby (on 1841 1851) i ask for these as i dont have access to the census regards sarah ps i dont mean for you to look elaine anyone that can help would be great

Sarah Have had a look with the dates you have given and am getting nowhere. It's also difficult 1841 as the ages were rounded up or down. If you are looking into going to the LDS centre, they have access to ancestry and some libraries are now giving free access. Don't want to send you off on the wrong trail as taking off the exact search brings up too many Barsby from all over the country, Sorry couldn't help more Elaine

*** F.A.O.***…Elaine. “ PURR – FIK “….. As promised …… St. Thomas & Becket Parish Church Tugby. Leicestershire. Page 8. Entry No. 60. October 10th. 1820. ELIZ. ANN. Baseborn Daughter of ELIZABETH BRYAN. Tugby. S.T. Broomfield. Vicar. So did Eliz…….Not like the name Eliz and used Ann instead. ?? & went on to live with William & Sarah more secure live style ? & did Elizabeth go on to marry a KING. ? Other Baptisms read thus :- Page. 17. Entry. No. 129. 27th. June. 1830. Maria Daughter of James & Sarah COOK Tugby. Shoe maker. S.T. Broomfield. Vicar. Page. 19. Entry. No. 152. 26th. August. 1832. TABBY. Daughter of James & Sarah COOKE. Tugby. Shoe maker. S.T. Broomfield. Vicar. Entry 153. 26th. August. 1832. MARIA Daughter of James & Mary BRYAN. Tugby. Labourer. S.T. Broomfield. Vicar. Ridlington Parish. RUTLAND. Mary Magdalene & St Andrew’s Parish Registers read thus :~ ANNO DOMINI. BAPTISMS :~ 1793. SARAH Daughter of William & Ann BRYAN Baptised ……..May. 15th. Charles Belgrave. Rector. So there you have it …….. MIKE. xxx ( Do I get a saucer of Cream then ? )

Meow Mike Thank you very much, pouring your treat as we speak Elaine

Hi, Not sure if this is the right place to ask for help but here goes. I am trying to find out about my Gt Gt Gt grandmother's parents. Her name was Ellen Deacon, born about 1817/1818 in Ibstock or N Swepstone depending on which census you look at. She married George Reay from Walsall, Staffordshire. I can't find any record of their marriage on BMD - have searched full index from 1837 to 1848 (their first child was born abt 1846) - so maybe they married before BMD began. Hope someone can help, thanks in anticipation, Clare

hi mike hope your well next time you go ro can you check this out plz and see what info it gives you john barsby married mary chambers 2 march 1778 at ashby leicestershire on fiche on igi john barsby is on the fiche with a relative william h wilson but iv know idea about this willaim or how hes related to john barsby regards sarah ps many thanks mike

Greeting's & Welcome......... Clare. Baptism found :~ ( via two different disks ) ELLENOR DEACON. 13th. July. 1817. St. Peter's Parish Church. SWEPSTONE. Mother :~ Mary Deacon. No Father's name given. So we could be looking at a Baseborn child. If you wish I can have a look for this this coming week at the records Office and see the Parish Registers which would give better information ? I've got to go out to Church so will try and find the marriage on return MIKE.

Hi Clare I know its off igi but there is an Ellen Varnam Deacon marriage to a George Reay 19 Dec 1844 Aston Birmingham so if you do want the marriage it might be worth your while looking in Warwickshire. Best wishes Bev

We are all attacking you Mike! Have just come back from Leicester where I have just met 4 Ward family members for the first time. Could you have a look at the St Margs register for ANN(WARD),1849,JAMES BENNETT WIGLEY,4 It's something that came up as we were talking Thank you as ever Elaine