Genealogy Chat

No problem It will be much easier working backwards from known facts. good luck with it. Tricia

sorry i just started from the 1841 census

ok.. so how did you get back to 1841.. or did you start there. Tricia

Hi, well when i was looking at the family im researching. the william was in the 1841 census.(i cant find a birth record of this william). Update i started with the 1841 census. sorry

Mark What is the earliest date you have when you are sure you have the correct William. We can then work back and stand a better chance of elimination. Tricia

If you take the 1851 census with William as stepson of John Breakspeare the his mother is Mary Norris. Either he is from Mary's first marriage or is illegitimate. If the William on the 1841 is the same person then it is probable that Thomas and Ann are his grandparents (Mary's parents) who are looking after him whilst his mother is elsewhere (working, visiting). Of course it could be that they are totally different Williams. The William in 1861 is age 6 so cannot be the same person but I think he will be the nephew of Sarah going by the names of the children of the William in 1871. That William is going to have to be son of Thomas and Ann

mm so how do i find out who the '1841' william was and also who the '1861' william was...Although the family have lives there for hundreds of years, they are still not simple.lol

The William on 1861 can't be your 1841 William. In 1861 enigma William should be 24. The one visiting Sarah is 6!!! I think they would notice the difference & it's unlikely it's been mistranscribed. Lucky you to have a family that stays in the one place for so long. Ozi.

Mark who did William Marry ? or could he of died ? Deaths Mar 1846 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norris William Watford vol 6 page 409 June x

Name: William Norris Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Gender: Male Where born: Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Watford Hundred: Cashio County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Watford Sub-registration district: Watford Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Norris 60 David Norris 23 Luke Norris 2 Sarah Norris 26 Thos Norris 60 William Norris 4 This william then disappeared and i really want to know why and who he belongs to as i cant find any record of him being born.

Hi, yes this is my family. The Norris family lived in watford for over 300 years and some still do. This 'william' is an enigma

Hi, sorry i was starting to get confused as well. Although there is a william in 1841 census, he then disappears till 1861 census as is shown as a visitor. Im not sure who this williams parents are and why he seems to flit in and out of this family unit. Thanks and again sorry to mess peeps about

Mark, where does your info come from for William? Are you sure this one is him? It's a common name. Ozi.

Are you saying this is your family & William is an enigma? You're not messing us about, we're intrigued & want to get to the bottom of the mystery with you. Ozi.

Hi Mark Are we looking for William with Sarah or Mary as the mother? confused again Tricia

Hi, so do you think this is the same william.

Hi, could someone tell me what the freebmd site is please. Is it strange that this william just appears then disappears.Thanks

1871 Census Name: William Norris Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Watford, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Watford Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Watford County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Watford Sub-registration district: Watford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 Household Members: Name Age David Norris 14 George Norris 6 George William Norris 2 months Luke Norris 9 Mary Norris 51 Susan Norris 19 Thomas Norris 11 William Norris 51 William Norris 16 William the visitor with Sarah in 1861 June x

Good tip Gwyneth Thanks I am off to see if I can uncover some of my ' can't finds ' Tricia

Hi, Thank you...so where does this william come from as the people he is living with aged 4 are not his parents it would seem. Thanks again