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Mike/Linda The entry looks like it has been corrected and should be Sarah Allwood (triangle symbol by her name) Name: Sarah Gent [Sarah Allwood] Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Thomas Mother's name: Mary I agree it looks like widow, Elaine

Greeting’s Again June Could this be your Ada Elizabeth Lampard. ..... ? 1901. Census returns RG 13 / 2965 / 98 ./ Page. 1. Congerstone Village Robert Lampard. Head Mar. 45. Inn keeper. b Twycross. Leicestershire. Mary Wife. 39. b Lamberhurst. Kent. ADA.E. LAMPARD. Dau. 7. Scholar b Congerstone James W. Son. 5. Ditto. b Ditto. Alice Hodgkinson. Servant. 22. Domestic Duties. b. Congerstone. Thomas Patter. Boarder. 61. Decorator. b. Newcastle on Tyne. George Thatcher. Boarder. 31. Ditto. b Hampshire. Congerstone comes under Market Bosworth District . Not having much luck with the others you are after………Sorry. MIKE.

Hi Mike. I will take your advice and go to records office when I get time. Thanks again for your help. Linda

hi mike think i might have a walk round oadby cemetary sometime i know that my g grandad john henry clarke is buried there and his wife who knows what il find sj

Greeting's Again Linda. Just trawled the Death Index Records 1837 ~ 52. ( only one Qrt missing April 1843. Not even on the find my past site ) No sign of Robert in the Loughborough area So It's down to trawling the Parish Burial registers for Shepshed at the records Office in Wigston. MIKE.

Hi Mike I've looked at Christophers marriage cert and it states that Robert was a Labourer so he could of worked on a farm. The Sarah you found seems to fit my Sarah. In the 1851 cencus she is living with her mother in Shepshed Bridge st. Thanks Mike for your help.

Welcome Back……… Linda. Was it a question of “ What’s this button do ? “ …… To answer your question Re:~ Does the Father have to be present at the Baptism ? If you look at the Parish Baptism Registers for that year 1831. Then it was the Law that only the Fathers name & Occupation was recorded on the Registers. So the Register would read thus :~ 1831. Entry No. *** 26th. Dec. John Christopher Son of Robert & Sarah Gent. Shepshed. Fathers Occupation.:~ Then the name of the Officiating Minister. So he did not HAVE to be present. But he would not be much of a Father if he did not…….. You have the marriage certificate of John Christopher ? Have a look along to the column ( Usually the last column the right side ) Where it asks for the Occupation of the Father This might give you some clues as to were he might have been. If he was in the Farming Business then he could have been away on a farm some where. This would also explain his name not put down on the Census returns for the Gent Household There is a possibility that Robert had enlisted to fight the Crimean War 1854~56. ? MIKE. Just had a look at the 1851. Census returns HO 107 / 2084 / 404 / Page 7. Keyword = Gent. It's faint but I'm sure it states that Sarah is a Wid. aged 50 Pauper Lace Worker b Shepshed Beverly or Eliane can you confirm this please ?

Hi Mike Would the father of the child have to attend the christening for his name to be on the cert. Linda

Hi Mike I am new to this system and delete things I shouldn't. I have catherine and Christophers info. What's baffling me is where is Robert he is not mentioned in the 1841 nor 1851 cencus. Yes he is on christophers marriage cert in 1852 and on Catherines christening cert, but where is he? I would like to know where he was, Thanks for the help Linda.

*** F.A.O. *** Ken O’ New Zealand. As per your List of possible Burials Welford Road 1.st. Family Group. Alfred or Elizabeth. Nothing found for either. Claria & Kathleen. Hannah, :~ Plot No. U.N. 515.:~ TIMSON CLARA 1900 Dec 22 4 Green Lane Road Leicester Un 513 C U89040 TIMSON KATHLEEN 1900 Mar 10 19mths Hamilton House, Green Lane Road Leicester Un 515 C U87350 TIMSON HANNAH 1885 Aug 11 39 North Evington Leicestershire Un 515 C U56069 [Nth. Evington Infirmary?] Doris Just the one Timson. :~ Plot No. U.N. 513. TIMSON DORIS 1895 Jul 23 6 mths Brook Street Saint Margaret Un 515 C U77075 Robert & Hephzibah. Nothing found. 2nd. Family Group. I Think Hannah is in Plot. No. U.N. 515. John. Plot No. U.N.1253.:~ TIMSON JOHN 1926 Sep 21 84 N.E. Infirmary. / 8 Dronfield Street Leicester Un 1253 F U115845 [North Evington Infirmary] Sarah Ann March. (Née Timson) Plot No. C.K.162 Emma Timson. Plot C.K. 163. :~ 162 F MARCH SARAH ANN 1919 Sep 29 53 Royal Infirmary Leicester 58620 Plot K 162 & 163 163 F TIMSON EMMA 1948 Mar 12 77 Hillcrest, Swain Street / 287 Aylestone Road Leicester 70218 William Timson. Plot. No. U.A. 560.:~ TIMSON WILLIAM HENRY 1868 Mar 1 9mths New Brook Street Saint Margaret 19990 Arthur & Walter. Nothing found. 3rd. Family Group. William Timson. See Plot No. U.R. 228. Ann :~ Nothing found. Tried both surnames Edward Timson. Plot No. U.R1. 2762.:~ TIMSON EDWARD 1897 Jan 8 65 Pares Street Leicester 80260 In the same Plot :~ TIMSON ARTHUR 1870 Nov 20 1mth Pares Street Saint Margaret 25082 Sarah Ann Hubble ( Née Timson ) Plot No. U.R.228. :~ TIMSON MARY 1862 Jan 14 50 Northgate Street All Saints 10653 HUBBLE SARAH ANN 1862 Jan 28 27 Great Holme Street Saint Mary 10703 TIMSON ELEANOR 1873 Jan 14 69 Northgate Street All Saints 29556 TIMSON *WILLIAM * 1880 Oct 22 68 Edwyn Street Saint George 45618 William Timson. C. 1837. Nothing found. Emma Hubble ( Née Timson) Closest Match. Plot No. U.O. 76.\;~ HUBBLE EMMA 1923 Sep 3 71 35 Osborne Road Leicester 112732 Jane Timson. Plot No. C.L. 942. :~ TIMSON JANE 1913 Aug 8 69 Poor Law Infirmary Leicester 54195 Another Timson within the same plot:~ TIMSON EDWARD 1913 Nov 28 69 91 Merridale Road Leicester 54345 Hope I’ve not missed anyone ? With regards to the Map of Welford Road Last time I used mine It did NOT match the map on display at the Visitors Centre. So best to get an up to date map from them Would not like it if I had sent you the wrong way. MIKE.

Greeting’s & Welcome Linda …. Just the two Gent burials for Diseworth (I believe that’s what you meant ) GENT Catherine 19 Feb 1822 Aged. 79 GENT John 30 Nov 1823 91 Better results for Shepshed I think the Sarah is Robert’s Wife ? GENT * SARAH * 15 JUN 1852 Aged 55 GENT Arthur 25 Mar 1866 5wks Arthur Son of Christopher & Anna Baptised 17th. March 1866. According to the below Baptisms Robert was still around in 1849. Baptisms found :~ John Christopher GHENT. St. Botolph Parish Church. Shepshed. 26th. December. 1831. Father :~ Robert. Mother :~ Sarah. Catherine GENT. Aged 14. St. Botolph Parish Church. Shepshed. 1st. April. 1849. Father :~ Robert. Mother :~ Sarah. I see Robert & Sarah Married in Shepshed In St. Botolph’s Church. 29th. December 1819. By Banns. MIKE. Wheres Linda's post gone ? .....

Greetings Mike Sorry for the confusion, yes those first three are the one's I need birth parents for. Most gratefull Jon O'Kent

Greeting's Again Jon O' Kent The first part of my last post was. for those Infants Thats what I wanted to you to confirm So I can see if I can find the parents of these via Parish burial registers. Some times the burial is recorded in the Parish Registers but the Burial took place else where with the Minister in attendance . I then went on to give you the lists of all other s buried with them. Hope this is clearer to understand MIKE.

hi mike can you give me tips on how you look for burial plots sj

Greetings again Mike Quite a substantial list but I would be grateful just for the TOMKINS/TOMPKINS 'infants', the adults I have managed to clarify fron the Census records. Regards Jon O'Kent

Greeting’s Jon O’ Kent……. I can then look at the Parish Registers to see if there was a service at the Church before Burials. Are these the ones you need further details on ? as per your running list. :~ TOMKINS ADA 1877 Feb 12 3mths Britannia Street Saint Margaret Up 1712 C U37699 TOMKINS ANNIE 1893 Jul 13 3wks Crystal Street Saint Leonard Un 726 C U72968 TOMKINS WILLIAM 1888 Sep 8 8mths Knighton Street Saint Mary Ce 917 C C29883 C TOMKINS William 1872 Sep 12 101 Britannia Street Saint Margaret 28869 C TOMKINS William 1872 Sep 29 1 Britannia Street Saint Margaret 28999 C TOMKINS Emmaretta 1874 Mar 7 7mths Britannia Street Saint Margaret 31732 C TOMKINS * ADA * 1877 Feb 12 3mths Britannia Street Saint Margaret 37699 C TOMKINS Eliza 1877 Nov 5 43 Britannia Street Saint Margaret 39168 C TOMKINS George 1885 Jan 29 55 Leicester Infirmary Saint Mary 54869 C UNDERWOOD Arthur 1902 Jan 4 4mths Belper Street Leicester 90984 Think we can dispel William aged 101. as Ada’s Father ? Others within Plot No. U.N.726.:~ C Rolleston Eleanor 1858 Aug 11 9 Sanvey Gate Saint Margaret 6586 C Naylor Annie 1881 Sep 19 2 Bow Bridge Street Saint Mary 47605 C TOMPKINS JOHN THOMAS 1892 Aug 30 4mths Littleton Street Saint Leonard 71074 C TOMKINS * ANNIE * 1893 Jul 13 3wks Crystal Street Saint Leonard 72968 C Johnson Ann 1915 Dec 31 70 Royal Infirmary Leicester 102794 F Penn Keziah 1930 Jan 22 84 51 Layton Road Leicester 118977 Others within Plot No. C.E. 917.:~ C ADAMS Ann 1858 Jan 27 18mths Lower Grove Street Saint Margaret 4456 C ADAMS Martha 1859 Apr 10 1 Groves Street Saint Margaret 5268 C ADAMS Sarah 1864 Mar 28 35 Grove Street Saint Margaret 8157 C TOMKINS OSCAR GEORGE 1884 Dec 18 5mths Chestnut Street Saint Mary 25899 C TOMKINS * WILLIAM * 1888 Sep 8 8mths Knighton Street Saint Mary 29883 C TOMKINS FRANK 1893 Jul 5 3mths New Park Street Saint Mary 35348 F CLARK Arthur 1948 Dec 28 71 59 Bruce Street Leicester 70446 MIKE.

Greetings Mike If time permits next week could you please provide BIRTH parents for the following; Ada TOMKINS born St Margarets lived only 3 months and buried Feb 1877. William TOMKINS born St Mary's lived only 8 months and buried Sep 1888. Annie TOMKINS born St Leonards and lived only 3 weeks, buried Jul 1893. Many thanks Jon O'Kent

Hi Sarah www(.)gro(.)gov(.)uk remove brackets Bev

whats the website for ordreing birth certs thanks sj

Thanks Mike my Grandmother was Rose Eva Perry she died in December 1936 and lived in 28 Marriott Road with her mother Emily Jane Perry who died in a mental hospital the towers 1950. My Grandfather was William Taylor no initial on his marriege cert but with the initial F on my mother's cert at time of marriege it say's he was 24 years in 1915 so that would make 1891 his birth date he as I said was a foundry labourer and his father named George was a Brass founder Deceased by 1915. I have searched for a George Brass founder and with the help of a lady named Wendy the only one we found lived in Birmingham but that seem a bit of straw picking. hope this helps Paul just as a foot note after her parents died my mother and her eldest brother worked but the two younger siblings were put in a home My mother lived with a lady she called Aunt Nance, Nancey Hart at no 8 Martin street that you mentioned. I was born there also but we moved to liverpool when I was six months old in 1945. Paul