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Greeting’s Again………. Kathleen.. Re Your Mary Allen. Born c. 1808 G.R.O. Death Site Index Records :~ Jan. ~ Feb. ~ March. Qrt. 1854. Mary Allen.( would have been 46 ) Leicester. Cert No. 7 a. 138. NO Age given Jan.~ Feb.~ March Qrt. 1857. Mary Allen. ( would have been 49 ) Leicester. Cert. No. 7 a. 135. NO age given. Is This your Mary Allen in 1851 Census ? HO 107 / 2090 / 641 / Page.2. Leicester. St. Mary’s Parish. Grange Lane. Grange Place. MARY ALLEN Head W 43 F Seamstress Lei WHETSTONE JAMES ALLEN Son 12 M Lei WHETSTONE ELIZABETH ALLEN Dau 10 F Lei WHETSTONE JOHN ALLEN Son 8 M Lei SMRY MARY ALLEN Dau 4 F Lei SMRY . Abv:~ SMRY = St. Mary’s Parish. Re checked Welford Road Again but could not get a match up using the birth years Re :~ Mary Ann MASON Born c 1844. I don’t think the Mary Ann’s death in Sept. 1909. Is the right one The G.R.O. Index Site tells me Mary Ann was aged 54. on death Which would make her year of birth 1855. Un less my maths is up the creak……..that’s 10 years out. ? G.R.O. Site details July. ~ August. ~ September. Qrt. 1909. Mary Ann Mason. Leicester. Age. 54. Cert No. 7 a. 132. Gilroes details are ONLY available through the contact below :~ All cemetery and crematorium matters are dealt with at our central office in New Walk Centre, Leicester. Address: Burial & Cremation Manager, New Walk Centre, Welford Place, Leicester, LE1 6ZG. Telephone (U.K.): 0116 252 7382/7383 Fax (U.K): 0116 222 8706 E-Mail: cemeteries(Hat)leicester.gov.uk Remove the hat & brackets Replace with the other icon for hat But these have become a bit expensive of late They want £20 per Hour per person to search. Or if you go & look yourself then the price comes down to £5 per Hour per person. I would be cheaper to order the certificates = £7 x 3 = £21. Certificate Ref Details :~ All as above . MIKE.

*** F.A.O.***....... Sarah. 1891. Census returns :~ RG. 12. / 2541. / 91. / Page. 7. Leicester. St. Leonard’s Parish. No. 24. Bradgate Street. Mary Clarke. Head. Mar. 61. b Woodhouse Eaves. Leicestershire Selina Ditto. Dau.Sing. 22. Dressmaker. b Ditto. Martha Alice Yates. Boarder. Sing.. 18. Winder Hosiery b Nottingham Nottinghamshire. MIKE.

Hi Elaine Thank you for the info re Welford Road Cemetery, I have looked at the site that you recommended. You mentioned a map of the cemetery, yes please I would like a copy. Not sure how you can send it though, would Genes let it through? Or you could try my home email on kenxkay@xtraxcoxnz where x = . Thank you Ken

Hi Mike Thanks for the info about Welford Road, as you rightly sumise I have few plot numbers! The first family I would like to locate is that of my grandparents Alfred Timson born 27 November 1868, died 23 December 1940. Elizabeth (nee Watts) b 19 Jan 1865, d 15 Sept 1935. Doris Timson b 21 Jan 1895, d 1895. Clara Timson b 29 June 1896, d 1900. Kathleen Timson b 22 July 1898, d 1900. Robert Edward Timson b 31 October 1903, d 11 March 1978. Hephzibah Timson b 18 September 1905, d Dec 1906. The second family is that of my great grandparents John Timson b 20 July 1842, d 1926. Hannah (nee Yates) b 1845, d 07 Aug 1885. Sarah Ann March (nee Timson) b 14 Oct 1865, d 25 Sept 1919. William Henry Timson b 13 May 1867 d 1868. Emma Timson b 19 Nov 1870, d 1948.(plot 160?). Arthur Timson b 15 June 1873, d ? after 1901 ! Walter Timson b 27 Sept 1875, d16 Sept 1931. Thirdly the family of William Timson b Nov 1811, d 22 Oct 1880. Ann (nee Satchell) b c1812, d 1 May 1848. Edward Timson b 1832, d March 1/4 1897. Sarah Ann Hubble (nee Timson) b c1835, d Jan 1862. William Timson b 10 May 1837, d ? Emma Hubble (nee Timson) b 4 Nov 1839, d 1906. Jane Timson b 15 Feb 1845, d ? Do not know if she married. Sorry that there are so many Mike. Thanks Ken

lookp plz of a death mary clarke b 1830 woodhouse on 1901 census aged 71 lived on beaumont road leicester may have dided around 1911 ish have looked on igi but cant find anything any tips would help me sj

Greeting’s Sarah. ........ The closest to the details I can get to :~ Welford Road Cemetery :~ Plot No. U. S. 1671. C WILLIAMSON David 1875 Nov 10 48 Leicester Infirmary Saint Mary 35290 [Folio Missing From Fiche, Transcribed Directly From Original] C HIGGINS Mary Bates 1890 Sep 29 3mths Green Street Saint Margaret 66699 C GREATHEAD Nathaniel 1898 Nov 30 85 Belgrave Gate Leicester 84479 F CLARKE ^ Mary ^ 1911 Aug 12 81 49 Stretton Road Leicester 98584 Abv. = C = Common Plot. F. = Becomes Freehold Plot. Stretton Road = Fosse Road Central to Kirby Road. Which matches this Death Index Record from G.R.O. Site. July. ~ August. ~ September. Qrt. 1911. Mary Clarke. Leicester. Aged 81. Cert No. 7 a 314. The only way to know for sure if this is your Mary Clarke born Woodhouse Eaves 1830. Is to get the Certificate.= £7.00. There is NO OTHER WAY other than that certificate.!!! And hope the informant know enough about Mary To state place of birth as Woodhouse Eaves MIKE.

hi thanks your a star where did you find the info ? now its case of find her hubbys death john clarke b 1829 woodhouse been looking all day i know he was alive in 1891 living in loddington northants as a lodger but cant find him on 1901 census and on 1901 census it says mary is a widow sj

hi mike did you notice any other clarke buried there at welford road sj

Hi Uncle Mike have you changed your email address?? or are you just ignoring me, lol? Jane xxxx

Greeting's Auntie Jane Have sent you a PM Ken O' NZ. ....... Got your E-mail with updates I;ve added you to my contact list. Sarah...... Trade secrets where I got that Info for which I have had to pay You ask if there was other Clarke's / Clark burials in Welford Road ? There's Hundreds of um. !!!! But not John's....... MIKE.

*** F.A.O. *** Gemma O’ Canada. I had a look at the original Parish Registers To solve the multi Baptisms of James Fox’s which I posted. Below is a TRUE transcriptions of the Parish Registers Baptism with Parents James & Sarah FOX. ANNO DOMINI BAPTISMS :~ 1812. John. Son Of James & Sarah Fox. .. Bapt…. 18th. October. 1812. ( That’s all the information we get for this year.) Following the Rose Act 1813. to simplify Parish Registers We get :~ Entry. No. 54. 25th. December. 1814. Joseph. Son of James & Sarah Fox. Thurmaston South End. James Frame Work Knitter. Entry. No. 193. 28th. March. 1819. James. Son of James & Sarah Fox. Thurmaston South End. Frame Work Knitter. Entry. No. 249. 28th. December. 1820. Mary, Daughter of James & Sarah Fox. Thurmaston South End. Frame Work Knitter. ALL above conducted by H. Woodcock. Curate. Entry No. 343. 6th. September. 1824. William. Son of James & Sarah Fox. Thurmaston South End. Frame Work Knitter. Entry No. 421. 30th. July. 1826. CHARLES NOT James. Son of James & Sarah Fox. Thurmaston South End. Frame Work Knitter. Entry No. 526. 7th. June . 1829. THOMAS NOT James. Son of James & Sarah Fox. Thurmaston South End. Frame Work Knitter. Entry No. 609. 25th. March. 1832. Charles. Son of James & Sarah Fox. Thurmaston South End. Frame Work Knitter. The last four Baptisms conducted by J. Fell. Curate. So Hope that solves the problem with too many James’s…… BURIAL REGISTERS:~ Entry No. 201. 25th February 1823. Mary Fox. Thurmaston South End. Aged. 2. years old. Entry. No. 295. 30th. June. 1827. Charles Fox. Thurmaston South End. Age as = Infant. ( Under I year ) Both Burials conducted by :~ J. Fell. Curate. ANNO DOMINI MARRIAGES:~ 1811. Marriage Transcript reads thus :~ St. Michael & All Angel’s Parish Church. Thurmaston South End. Entry No. 4. James Fox.& Sarah Greasley. Both of this Township. Married in this Chapel By Banns This Twenty-second day of December. In the year One Thousand Eight Hundred and Eleven. By Me :~ H. Woodcock. Curate. James signed by his own signature Sarah by her own Mark = + Wit’s :~ George Sarson. William Bishop. The scan of this entry is winging it’s way to your home E- mail address. Re:~ The search for George Whitehead born / Baptised Loughborough c 1824. In the last two days I have trawled the Parish registers for Loughborough At the Records Office. But only to draw a blank …..Sorry. Plenty of Whites, Wrights, Whitesmiths, Whitehall’s …….. But NO Whitehead’s. So I have pre ordered the records ( Films & hard copies held in the strong room ) For ALL nonconformists & Methodists Baptisms…..in and around 1824. For the next time I’m at the Records Office Hoping for better results.. Hope this helps. MIKE. xx

Hi Sarah Like Mike said on page 6 it might prove hard to track down Johns death if he was living in Northants on 1891 Census. He could have died in Northants,Leicester or who knows where. Bev

This is as near as i can get for 1841 - they are in Diseworth/. Goscot Catherine Gant 4 Christopher Gant 8 Sarah Gant 35 Here we are in 1851 in Sheepshed where Catherine is listed as 'granddaughter' Mary Allwood 76 Thomas Allwood 82 Catherine Gent 14 Sarah Gent 50 I don't see her in 1861 but there is a Catherine gent who marries in 1860 in Bsford, Notts. Edit ... actually Beeston according to parish records. Husband is Thomas Barnes, date 28/2/1860.

Mike Saw your note about ordering non-conformist records. Looks like my Bentleys and Kirks (Sheepshed) were non-conformist which is why I am having difficulty working farther back. I have a bunch of disconnected events but cannot connect them. Do you think this is something those record might help with?

This is a long long long long shot but is there anyone on this thread interested in one William Fox Taylor 15 Gayton Avenue Leicester U.D. who died in 1935. cheesed off fedup crabby narky Paul.

crabby,narky Paul, not got connections to your william Fox, but will pretend to, if it makes you feel any better lol Hi Mike, now before you throw your pencil at me.... I wonder if youwould be able to help with this prob...Herbert (Bert) Jermyn married Mona ?. have got a photo with Bert on and he looks about 30ish in 1946 and to make things worse, don't know if Mona was her name, or if she was called that 'cause she moaned a lot !!!! can't find a b. for him, but pretty sure they were all from Leic.oh dear sorry.....worse than those blooming hopewell's .and looking for Ada Elizabeth Lampard marr, she was born 1894 Mkt Bosworth, suposedly to a cousin ? Sid Lampard, thanks v.much June

hi mike thanks for the info on mary clarke i didnt mean for you to pay for the info but a big thankyou if i can ever do anything for you let me know sj

Hi Mike Thank you so much for sorting out the James Fox confusion!!! That is fantastic. As for George Whitehead...he is proving to be a tricky little bugger!!!! I really appreciate all the effort you have put in so far. I have been googleing the Whitehead surname, and have found that it was often mistaken for Whitchead...not sure if this helps at all??? I really am beginning to think that he was not born in Leicestershire at all!!!!! I did find something interesting on the 1871 census though. I found a George Whitchead (b. 1824, Loughborough) living in Nottingham with his parents,George Whitchead (b. 1804 Church Aston, Yorkshire) and Ann Whitchead (b.1796 East Leake, Nottingham). But on the same census I also found George Whitehead (b.1824, Loughborough) living with his wife Elizabeth in Nottingham!!!!! I am at a total loss!!!! This man is determined to confuse us!!!!

Greeting's Again .....Gemma. Ummmm. ....... East Leak. Now...... That's one of those Villages which although in Nottinghamshire. I spoke about before. It also comes under a SUB District of Loughborough. Don't put that one in your Trash Can just yet ..... Yes I had that surname (Whitchead)...in mind whilst I trawled the Registers Did you manage to open the scan of that Marriage Register I sent via E-Mail. MIKE.

Hi I have already put a post on here today but a lady named gemma over on records says that if I ask Mike on here he may be able to help as he is a wizz on Leicester so here goe's I am looking for my grandfather William Taylor b 1891, he was married to Rose Eva Perry in 1915 bedfordshire (have cert says he was foundry labourer and his father George was a Brass founder) and moved to Leicester he died before 1936 because my gran died in 1936 and was living with her mother at the time there seems to be only 2 possibles William Fox Taylor Died 1935 july Billersdon I have his death cert and it says he was a stone mason the other is William F. K Taylor died in Leicester 1933 july 7a 269 I am going to send for his death cert and that will take a while in the mean time what I would like to know is who was living at 15 Gayton Avenue Leicester U.D.in July 1935 this is where W. Fox Taylor lived this may tell me if my gran lived there and if so I have at last found my grandfather, I have sent an email to the central library but had no answer as yet.it's driving me nutts. can you help Please Paul