Genealogy Chat

freaky.....3 james oxenhams dying within 3 years of each other..all in december.....3 genertions later..... i'm trying to fuffle up all thoses family secrets they tryed to keep!!!! lol

Just realised you said Harriets 'mother' moved - no dad - went back to freebmd: in case you hadnt mentioned James dying. Cant see him here, but these are handy for you. Yes, thats the idea, go and have a mooch round freebmd and ancestry. And get the tree program asap as I look back and Ive no sources for my earliest stuff. Plus you will have that months sub to ancestry to go through all the census materials etc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Dec 1891 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oxenham James 36 St. Saviour 1d 62 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Dec 1893 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oxenham James 1 St. Olave 1d 207 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Dec 1898 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oxenham James John 38 St. Saviour 1d 57

I'll keep it.........I get confused on my own anyway...... lol I'll have a butchers myself too....like that I wont feel too guilty about letting you do all the work!! I'll also try and find the family tree maker program....it looks good!!! I'll also have to write down where i got all the info from, as suggested in the newbie thread.... i've got over 200 names, and definatly not that number of certs!!!! bye for now...

ohhh......living peoples arguments are more important than my dead ancestors!!!! lol ......Mary anns daughter harriett lived in peckham once married.....maybe her mother moved there before 1901? I also know that harriett was living with her future hubby 'enest and his wife catherine at one point, but that won't help you!!!! sorry.... lol

No, I ve not done much - sorry being distracted by argument between 21 year old son and his father !! LOL> Im sure more people will be on to help shortly. Im a bit annoyed I cant find James jnr and Mary Ann in 1901.

Theres so much info out there now, I dont want to put too much on here because it will make it even more confusing for you. Do the Oxenhams also have connections to Buckinghamshire. Anyway, Im worried about putting the wrong info into your head now! I reckon we ought to wait to see what that cert says before I start giving you stuff that may lead along the wrong lines for you. So just this bit - keep til later. (this is why you need a good family tree program - to keep all these odds and ends which MAY fit later. England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 Birth, Marriage, & Death Name: James Henry Oxenham Birth: Sep 1878 - St Saviour Southwark, London, Surrey

I'll let you know!!! at least oxenham is a better name than wood, or ward, or adams and jones!!! lol all I need is a smith, and i'll give up!!! lol I'll keep this thread posted, as soon as. Thanks again, you are great!!!

Well when you get that marriage cert see if it ties in with the 1891 guy who is a shopkeeper as his dad. (see below)

right, i've just ordered the marriage cert for fletcher/Oxenham.....that'll depend on the french postal service now!!! hahaha. I hadn't looked into into the oxenham side on the census, I got into the fletcher side....then my dad started going on about his side of the family......which is a nightmare!!! lol

Do you reckon this is the young James: Dad has a shop in Angel Street - general dealer. He married a bit young didnt he! Name: James Oxenham Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Relation: Son Father's name: James Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Walworth, London, England Civil parish: Newington St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Walworth St Marks Town: London City County/Island: London Country: England S Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Household Members: Name Age William Conaty 65 Alice Oxenham 1 Elizabeth Oxenham 29 Elizabeth Oxenham 11 Ellen Oxenham 9 George Oxenham 7 Hannah Oxenham 5 James Oxenham 31 James Oxenham 13 If that is them - keep this marriage handy for after you get his marriage cert as it will give you dads name and occupation. If they match with this James and Elizabeth heres their marriage possibly: Marriages Sep 1878 Oxenham James John St. Saviour 1d 186 HUMPHRIES Elizabeth Sarah St. Saviour 1d 186

Def have to shoot now. If you could give us more info about what you know of these people to help decide which/where we should be looking? Im sure the great sleuths on here will soon get some direction for you. Check you out later.

Surely this lot must be related: Dads occupation looks like Engineer's planer??? Name: Charles Oxenham Age: 52 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: London, England Civil parish: St George Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub-registration district: Kent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 82 Household Members: Name Age Charles Oxenham 52 Edith M Oxenham 12 Martha Oxenham 52 Sydney H Oxenham 16

Just a quick one - have you found Jame and Mary Ann in 1901? If so, where are they please?

Anis, I got to deal with family trauma here - but if you go to freebmd you can do a name search through the births, marriages and deaths. If you cant find the ones you want there (its only partial) then you can go to ancestry which allows access to non members for the complete bmd index - you cant bring up just by putting in a name, you have to go through the images of the registers quarter by quarter. Ill try to get back shortly :)

that's next months cert sorted!!! lol thanks

Are this lot in Lewisham (very close to Brixton/Rotherhithe) related: Dad is a municipal clerk - quite well off, 2 servants. Name: Edward H Oxenham Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Laura E Gender: Male Where born: Tavistock, Devon, England Civil parish: Lewisham Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Lewisham ED, institution, or vessel: 36 Edward H Oxenham 48 Edward J B Oxenham 19 Grace H Oxenham 19 Laura E Oxenham 48 Mildred M Oxenham 15 Agnes E Patterson 23 Ester M Wright 18

Well most of us use family tree maker. If you go to my-history site or twr computing they are selling the who do you think you are version for £10 at my-history and £12 at twr - both will post abroad - I know twr was very quick at sending one to my newly found cousin in Germany for me. You also get a months free sub on ancestry thrown in.

Right, I've tryed a couple of freebee tree programs, but I can't figure them out an awful lot....... can you name me somegood ones? ernest wood(1894) and catherine welch married in 1927 (i'll add on the place later) She died in Bermondsey 1935, 6 pickwick house. They had 2 sons together ernest and ronald (my uncles) in 1940 ernest (soldier, died 1955 ish) went on to marry Harriett Oxenham(1905) were they had robert(1942), and my mum maureen (1944) This all happened in Newington! Henry and eliza I would have seen on Ernest's birth cert.....sorry.... as for James Oxenham and mary ann Fletcher (born walworth)....... I don't have any certs for them but they started having children around 1900; and I have hooked up with other Fletcher searchers, and have found similaritudes in names, dates.....they're looking up that side..... from memory, that's all I can tell you at the moment.......the certs are at home....and I'm not!!!! thanks for all the advice..... Anis

Well this is the reference for James and Mary Anns wedding cert: Marriages Dec 1896 FLETCHER Mary Ann St. Saviour 1d 322 Oxenham James Henry St. Saviour 1d 322

Oh no, you dont have brick walls there - Ill tell you about brick walls one day - LOL Ooh Oxenham, thats a good name. Ok, so where have you found these people - try to do one line at a time or you will get confused. Do you have a decent family tree program on your computer to add all the info you are gathering to immediately so you dont lose the sources etc.? When you say you found Ernests parents names on his wedding cert - you dont get a mothers name on the cert? When was Alfred born? Where did Ernest marry? What was his dads occupation? If you could say do one line youre interested in and put on here everything you know about them so far and where you found the info then there are some great people on here who can help out.