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Hi To all who have bean helping with my search. Many thanks for your time and help, with out your support i would have given up, but i have bean given hope. Im looking forward to receiving the certs that im sending for and hope to make some small brake through, finger's crossed. And if there is any one else out there who can help with ideas advice etc it is appreciated. Many thanks Viv

Hi Alison Many thanks for your advice, going to order cert today Viv

New message to Nibbo Hi Im just not sure names are changing and my head is going round and round trying to make sense of all this. On John Henry birth cert it does state Henry Vincent is his father. The problem i am having is finding the correct links as most of the info i am getting all could be feasible. Many thanks for all your help with out people like your self i would have given up long a go. Viv

New message to Aussietrish Yes you could be right so i will send for cert; i think it would be nice to have a cert with all the details on it. Many thanks for your help Best regards Viv From Galvidon

Viv Yes, Trish is right, you must get your father's birth certificate - it may hold the clue, you never know. This is the order of things, to clarify and then work backwards. Certificates sometimes are very informative, sometimes the registrar scribbles something in the margin or the address could be a clue and you want to know how John Henry is described on the certificate. Then you can look at the other info provided on this thread. Let us know when you get your dad's birth certificate. Alison

Viv No, I am not the Alison Day from Yorkshire, I've known another with the same name too - but I'm the original! Try to reassure your dad that the answers are out there and as soon as you get past this brick wall then it should be a smoother ride. I was thinking that Henry Vincent and Sarah Ann who had John Henry in 1906 might be on the 1901 census return. I see that you have an occupation for Henry as a Warf dock labourer and the children were born Southwark. So possibilities are beginning with looking for a family of Vincents in Southwark:- In the 1901 census a John Vincent is a waterside labourer, he is married to wife Sarah aged 43, living White Hind Alley, St. Saviours, Southwark. Children Walter and George are in the same occupation and their daughter is also Sarah Vincent, aged 11. No son called Henry with the family but perhaps a connection here. Going back 10 years in the 1891 census we have a family of Vincents living St. George the Martyr at 73 Scovell Road consisting of James Vincent, solicitors clerk, 30, wife Alice 31, children James, Arthur, Thomas, Henry, Charles. Henry Vincent is 4 so would have been 19 in 1906 when John Henry Vincent was born St George the Martyr West 1906. Although I can see that 10 years later Henry has also become a solicitors clerk. Also St. Saviour, Southwark, a Henry Vincent born Camberwell is the 14 year old son of Caroline who says she is married but no husband is registered on the census. Now these are just possibilities but your grandfather and siblings were born Southwark so we are looking for Vincents in Southwark initially. On a search for Henry Beeton:- In the 1871 census we see Henry Beeton is 64 years old living with wife Lavinia and he is a WHARF FOREMAN born in Bermondsey, living Falcon Wharf, St. Saviour, Southwark. Hey now, Viv, this has got to be more than a coincidence - this has to be the correct family of Beetons. This Henry in 1881 is in the workhouse age 75, Southwark area, described as bricklayers labourer then. Now this is obviously an older Henry Beeton than the one you are looking for but nevertheless it may well be an earlier generation of Beetons. Annoyingly I can't seem to find him in the other census returns but will look again for him and other connections. Don't despair, the answers are out there. Alison

HI I WAS JUST THINKING COULD CHARLES RICHARD BEETON BORN 1909 JAN HOLD THE KEY. WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO HE MARRIED AND WHO HIS KIDS ARE HE HAD ABOUT NINE BY ALL ACCOUNTS HE IS MY GREAT UNCLE AND I THINK HE AND HIS FAMILY COULD UNLOCK THE DOOR TO WHO MY GREAT GRANDFATHER IS. I HAVE LOOKED FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY HAVENT HAD ANY LUCK NEED MORE IDEA’S ON HOW I CAN FIND HIM. VIV

He Jen Yes i have looked B.D.M. And i can not seem to find any thing. I think i have looked at every thing and been to other sites, and they still elude me Viv

Hi My father is Jack William Beeton Born November 1933 There was a baby boy born before him called John so i was told he died, so they called my dad Jack. The birth cert i have for John Henry my grandfather is.......... Southwark, St George the Martyr West, County of London 4th December 1906 so that could be the correct one The other certs i have are for his brothers if they are the correct ones Charles Richard Harold Beeton Southwark, Christ Church & St Saviour London 7th Jan 1909 Fredrick Thomas Beeton 22 sep 1912 Southwark London Viv

Hi Viv Have you tried find a death record for her? That might give you some clue. Try looking under all the possible surnames. My Gt Grandmother married twice but neither time to my Gt Grandfather (still don't know why) anyway, I found this out when I contacted the cemetry where i believed she was buried. They were in the same grave. Good luck Jen

As far as i know she could have married twice or not at all as i can not find any marriages under any name from my grandfather’s cert. Sarah was a Vincent formerly Sadler I’m guessing that was her maiden name. On my grandfathers brothers cert said she was a Beeton formerly Vincent. Does that sound clear to you? My grandfather was born of the first relationship and registered as Vincent. His mother formerly Sadler then second relationship was with Henry Beeton which my grandfather at some point took the name of Beeton can not find any documents saying he did this legally or just took the name and used it. Yes i guess you are correct we are Beeton, but i want to trace my grandfather real father Henry Vincent's as well as Henry Beeton's his step father if this is the case. I'm not sure if this is any clearer to you, as i said this is confusing Best regards Viv

Hi My father was Jack William Beeton Born November 1933 in Romford Essex There was a baby boy born before my dad they called him John so i was told, he died so they called my dad Jack. The birth cert i have for John Henry my grandfather is.......... Southwark, St George the Martyr West, County of London 4th December 1906 so that could be the correct one The other certs i have are for his brothers if they are the correct ones Charles Richard Harold Beeton Southwark, Christ Church & St Saviour London 7th Jan 1909 Fredrick Thomas Beeton 22 sep 1912 Southwark London

Hi Viv I am sorry if I have missed whre you have answered the question, but do you have your fathers birth certificate? Ann

MY DAD IS SO DOWN, WANTS TO KNOW WHO HE IS. THIS RESEARCH IS GETTING ME DOWN AS WELL I HAVE TRIED EVERY THING TO FIND OUT WHO WE REALLY ARE. I HAVE BEEN LOOKING SO HAVE OTHERS WHAT ON EARTH CAN I DO NOW. MANY THANKS TO ALL WHO HAVE HAD A LITTLE LOOK FOR ME AND THOSE WHO HAVE GIVEN TIPS. MOST OF THEM I HAVE ALL READY DONE. :( :( SAD VIV

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Hi My Grandfather died 20/07/1977 He lived in dagenham Viv

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Hi Marriage was witnessed by H Beeton and T Ruler Is this info of help Viv