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I found these newspaper cuttings and wondered if anyone is able to look at the full cuttings
FORMER WEAVER KILLED. • FORMER WEAVER KILLED.
The death took place in action on November of Pte.
•Thomas Woan, Loyal North Lancs., aged ig. He enlisted on May 24th this year, and went France on October 22nd.
He was formerly employed as weaver at Horrockses, Crewdson, and
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Preston Herald
Preston, Lancashire, England


August 1895

October Court. PRESTON AND FYLDE.



Suicide at Preston.- Thomas Woan, 74. of 36, Barton-
street, Preston, on Monday committed suicide by
hanging. Ha had been suffering from rheumatism
24 August 1895

not be taken. - The examination was adjourned to the
Blackburn Standard

October Court. PRESTON AND FYLDE.
I have looked at the Lancashire b.m.d and there is a listing for Thomas Woan in that year but his age is 70 and not 74 so I’m not sure if he is the same man,

Any help will be gratefully received.
Pat.

The 1895 death is almost certainly the same man:

Deaths Sep 1895 (>99%)
Woan Thomas 70 Preston 8e 427

Remember that newspaper reports aren't always correct.
Also, age stated on a death cert depends on how accurate the informant's info is.

Not what you asked for - but - - - -

DEATHS
. . . . . November 15th, killed in action, France. Pte. Tom Woan, L.N.L. Regt., aged 19 years.—l 9, Annis-street. Preston.
Published: Saturday 09 December 1916
Newspaper: Preston Herald


Private THOMAS WOAN
Service Number: 24414
Regiment & Unit/Ship: The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
10th Bn.
Date of Death: Died 15 November 1916
Buried or commemorated at
THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
Pier and Face 11 A.France
Commonwealth War Graves Commission

Another record says his mother was M Woan.

Therefore -

Thomas Woan
in the 1911 England Census
Name Thomas Woan
Age in 1911 14
Estimated Birth Year abt 1897
Relation to Head Son
Gender Male
Birth Place Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Preston
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Street Address 19 Annis St Preston Lancs
Occupation Assistant Weaver (tenter)
Registration District Number 476
Sub-registration district East Preston
ED, institution, or vessel 09
Piece 25252
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Daniel Woan 40 Head
Margaret Woan 41 Wife
Thomas Woan 14 Son

Thomas Woan, 74. of 36, Barton-street, Preston, on Monday committed suicide by hanging. He had been suffering from rheumatism for six years and had been almost bedfast for eight months, but he managed to get as far as the stairs, where he put some string round his neck, and suspended it from a hook in the wall.

Published: Saturday 24 August 1895
Newspaper: Blackburn Standard
County: Lancashire, England

Many thanks ArgyllGran.
Help appreciated.
Pat.

.. THE SUICIDE OF AN OLD MAN AT PRESTON. At the Police Station, this afternoon, inquest was held Mr. Coroner Parker, on Thos. Woan, aged [??.] strangled himself with piece of twine. For five years who was a slasher, had lived with his daughter. Mart Reek. He .had never threatened to destroy himself, but at times had rambled in his statements.—Elim Ann Threlfall. who yesterdav afternoon went take care of deceased
Woan told her he would rather be quiet, and did not wish to keep her there all the afternoon, she went to a neighbour..
Returning in . . . she found him sitting on the edge of the stairs, with window cord around his neck. When cut down was breathing, but only lived quarter of hour. A doctor was sent for but it would quite two hours before arrived.
—A Juror : Did the party who went for the doctor bring soy word back ¦‘
—Witness : The doctor said if the man dead could not him any good
—The Juror: But was not dead when went for him.
—The Coroner : Doctors are like other people, they have their engagements to keep.
—The Juror : But it’s strange with man the point of death.
—The Coroner : It evident the messenger conveyed the impression the doctor that the man was dead.
—A verdict of Suicide whilst temporarily insane was returned.
Published: Tuesday 20 August 1895
Newspaper: Lancashire Evening Post
County: Lancashire, England


And another bit in same edition of same paper:


SINGULAR SUICIDE PRESTON - HANGED WITH PIECE . . .
Last evening, the singular suicide of a [septoM** ] was reported the Preston police. Thomas, living with his daughter 36, left in the charge of neighbour, and in her absence he left the bedroom, and h»lf*w»y stairs placed a piece of string around his[neck ] fastened to a bar across the top of the stairs; cut down life was extinct. For six years been a victim to rheumatism, and during [?] months has been low-spirited
Published: Tuesday 20 August 1895
Newspaper: Lancashire Evening Post
County: Lancashire, England

Many thanks.
Pat.

I would be grateful of another favour please.
This is a cutting from a newspaper and wondered if someone could look at the full story.
Thank you.
Pat.

85 Stiutpobd. killed Alston, the Preston and Lognridge
02 July 1857
Railway, Tuesday week, by being knocked down the train.
Suffolk and Essex Free Press
Deceased (Mr. Thomas Woan) was iu the act nf driving

two calves off the line. On Sunday week, a young man

named Albert Keel met his death the upsetting of a

According to Lancashire b.m.d a Thomas Woan is listed as dying in 1858 but that was in Liverpool but can’t find a Thomas Woan dying in 1857 which I think would be Preston Lancashire area.

Column headed Accidents and Offences

A man was killed at Alston on the Preston and Logaridge Railway, on tuesday week, by being knocked down by the train. Deceased (Mr Thomas Woan) was in the act of driving two calves off the line

Another report gives his approximate age:

A FRMER KILLED ON THE PRESTON AND LONGRIDGE
On Wednesday morning, an old man, about 80 years of age, named Thomas Woan, a farmer, was killed at the steep incline of the Preston and Longridge train ran over him while driving some . . . . off the line.
Published: Friday 26 June 1857
Newspaper: Liverpool Daily Post
County: Lancashire, England



Incidentally, the Liverpool 1858 death was a one-year-old child:
WOAN, THOMAS 1
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 259

Many thanks.
Pat

Can't see any death record, though!

Not on GRO nor FreeBMD.

Nor can I but thank you for looking.
Sometimes an extra pair of eyes helps.
Pat.

He had a wife and 5 children (presumably all adults if his reported age is correct):

A MAN KILLED ON A RAILWAY.—A very painful and distressing accident occurred on Tuesday, on the Preston and Longridge Railway at Alston, about f our miles from Preston. A train consisting of four stone waggons and one passenger carriage was proceeding from Longridge to Preston, when the breaksman observed two young calves, as he thought, trespassing upon the line between the metals. Presently he saw a man attempting to drive the cattle off, the railway at this point being somewhat narrow. He immediately put on the break ; but before the train was brought to a standstill the left buffer of the front waggon caught the man and threw him down , the wheel severing his leg just below the knee. The other portion of the body was carried about three yards further down the line, when the unfortunate man's head fell upon the opposite rail, and was completely scalped. The body turned out to be that of Mr. Thomas Woan, farmer of Alston. He has left a widow and five children.

Published: Saturday 27 June 1857
Newspaper: Weekly Star and Bell's News
County: London, England




On Wednesday week, a farmer named Woon, 80 years of age, was killed on the Preston and Longridge Railway while endeavouring to drive two calves from the line.

Published: Saturday 04 July 1857
Newspaper: Staffordshire Advertiser
County: Staffordshire, England

Brilliant although not for Thomas.
Thank you.

I can't see him in Alston area in 1851 - assuming he hadn't just moved there between 1851 and 1857.

Can't see him anywhere else either, for that matter, if he really was approx 80 in 1857.

I've tried looking for other deaths in that area in 1857, in case the newspapers had somehow got hold of the wrong name - but no deaths fit. No farmers of the right age.

Many thanks for looking. You’ve done your best and I can’t ask for more.
Pat.

This could be Thomas.
I think the best thing now would be to let the poor man rest in peace but thanks to all for their help.
Detail
Source

Name
Thomas Walne
Death Age
79
Birth Date
abt 1778
Burial Date
26 Jun 1857
Burial Place
Chipping, Lancashire, England
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Register Type
Bishop's Transcript
Reference Number
DRB 2/48

The above burial from lancsopc

https://lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Burial: 26 Jun 1857 St Bartholomew, Chipping, Lancashire
Thomas Walne -
Age: 76 years
Abode: Alston in the Parish of Ribchester
Buried By: E Wilkinson Vicar
Register: Burials 1853 - 1881, Page 22, Entry 169
Source: LDS Film 1656770

? The family in 1851

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Bettty Farm, Alston, Preston, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Walne Head Married Male 68 1783 Farmer Thornley, Lancashire, England
Alice Walne Wife Married Female 68 1783 Farmers wife Goosnargh, Lancashire, England
Ellen Walne Daughter Unmarried Female 36 1815 Farmer daughter Thornley, Lancashire, England
Easter Walne Daughter Unmarried Female 28 1823 Farmer daughter Thornley, Lancashire, England
William Walne Grand son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Farm labourer Lancashire, England

Thomas is a Farmer in 1841 and Alice is a widow in 1861 (still farming)