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Hi I have been to the grave and the William Thompson I was told was my mother's cousin, if that is my grandfather (William) on the 1921 census he told them he was 3 years younger than he was ? My ancestors are full of secrets

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Unless you've been to the Cemetery or looked up the records in Nottingham Records Office, you can buy a few credits on deceased online to look at the grave records for

Sarah Timson buried 17 Feb 1927
William Timson buried same date
William Henry Timson 6 April 1938 and

there is also a William Thomson in the same grave who may or may not be a relative

they are buried in the Northern Cemetery, Bulwell

That means that William was somewhat older than he claimed - if that’s him above on 1891 census

Hi His second marriage is right and his father is named on the certificate he is also named William, he and his wife Sarah died within a week of each other 1927, the birth you found for Henry Timson 1886 was my uncle

I have done some digging......................and I wonder about this birth


TIMSON, HENRY (MMN) JARVIS
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH Volume 07A Page 124

This is the correct district for a birth in Whitwick

???

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Eastwell Street, Hucknall Torkard, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
William Timson Head Married Male 35 1856 Coal miner Leicestershire, England
Sarah Timson Wife Married Female 37 1854 - Thurnby, Leicestershire, England
Gertrude Timson Daughter - Female 14 1877 Domestic servant Leicestershire, England
Ellen Timson Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Hucknall, England
Tom Timson Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar -
Bernard Timson Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar -
William Timson Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar -
Henry Timson Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar -
Fanny Timson Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Hucknall, England
Edward Calderwood Lodger Married Male 23 1868 Decorater -
Anne Calderwood Wife Married Female 19 1872 - Nottingham

All the boys from Tom to Henry were born in WHITWICK........FMP transcriber too idle to transfer the info

William seems to have materialised out of nowhere at his marriage in 1917

There is no birth matching the info he gives on 1921 census, and I can't identify him on earlier censuses with any degree of certainty

Did he name a father when he married in 1923?

Just for INFO.........the other thread...if anyone wishes to cross-reference

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1401939

The 1921 census info is as supplied by the man himself. The birth year is calculated by the transcriber from his age at the time

Hope this helps..................


As I said in my post at 15.23 yesterday, he was living alone in 1921

Is THIS his second marriage?

Marriages Sep 1923 (>99%)
Scott Lily Timson Nottingham 7b 899
Timson William H Scott Nottingham 7b 899

LILY is a WIDOW in 1939



Name William Henry Timson
Register Type Burial
Death Date abt 1938
Burial or Cremation Date 6 Apr 1938
Burial or Cremation Place Nottinghamshire, England

Hi death sounds right because my mother said he died 1st April but I am not sure about the census because it said he was born 1887 but I suppose they could have got it wrong,was he with any one else living with him, I know when he married my grandmother he lived on Newcastle Street in Bulwell Nottingham

If this is William's death in 1938

Deaths Jun 1938 (>99%)
TIMSON William H 52 Nottingham 7b 293

Perhaps this is the 1921 for him.


1921 Census Of England & Wales
32, Upper Eldon Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) William
Street Upper Eldon Street
Last name Timson
Address 32 Upper Eldon Street
Sex Male
Full address as transcribed 32 Upper Elder St
Birth year 1887
Parish Nottingham
Census date 19 June 1921
Registration district Nottingham
Age in years 34
Registration district number 430
Age in months 2
Sub-district Nottingham North East
Age as transcribed 34 y 2 m
Sub-district number 3
Relationship to head Head
Enumeration district number 40
Marital status Widowed
County Nottinghamshire
Birth place Whitwick, Leicestershire, England
Country England
Birth town Whitwick
Ward of borough or urban district Manvers
Birth county Leicestershire
Parliamentary borough or division Nottingham PB, East Div.
Birth country England
Archive The National Archives
Birth place as transcribed Leicestershire, Whitwick
Archive series RG 15
Nationality Resident
Piece number 16033
Occupation Miner Coal Hewer
Schedule number 45
Occupation code 042
District reference RD 430 RS 3 ED 40
Occupation code with suffix 042/8
Schedule type code E
Employer Newstead Colliery, Out Of Work
Schedule type England household, single page, 10 entries

A worthwhile exercise........................gets you used to using the resource, which will come in handy in the future.

Tha k you to all, I looked on freebmd and it seems they did not have children but the advice was most appreciated

Thank you

The link to freebmd is in my post at 15.23

Linda
Freebmd is where most of us look to see if there were any births.

You just need to put your grandfather's surname in the search box, then a couple of spaces under that put just the surname of his wife.

If a lady has previously been married, you need to put her maiden name in that section instead.
Click ...Find

You only have to put in the surnames, which you know. Go to freebmd and try it..............

Thank you ErikaH I am fairly new to all this so excuse my mistakes can't look for births because I am not sure they had children or not
:-)

Yes that is them, sorry I forgot to put his name, I looked for William in the 1921 census but could not find him could you tell me where he lived please

It's very easy to look for births

I know YOU had the details, but we didn't have all of them ;-) ;-)

Thank you I have all the details about them but not if they had childre